Dogboat Taurog
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Void Singer wrote:Dogboat Taurog wrote:[..] you are prejudging the issue without evidence and hearsay does not count where i come from.
that's a plain silly assertion. to judge something I would actually have to be involved and take some kind of action based upon it. I'm not and haven't. I've done only what any forum goer can do... offer an opinion given the facts stated. the court of public opinion is just that, opinion; not a legal body.you were not given facts, you were given assumptions and hearsay.
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Pussycat Catnap wrote:Dogboat Taurog wrote:lets not forget they areallegedsquatters.before the keystone cops start griefing. oh they have done already...
Person's not the landowner and not in the landowner's group rezzed on the landowner's land. That's pretty cut and dry.This is established not only from seeing who owns the land - but also by their failure to remove the prim placed on the land.But you've got one thing right. It is griefing. Building on land you don't own is griefing both the landowner and those nearby.I would say its not griefing to fill up prims however if done non-visibly, as you're not leaving clutter or causing a sim-resource drain.AR the squatters and fill up the emtpy prims to prevent future griefers from setting up shop.one of the stores i rent is open perms, i do not need to have a tag to build there.want proof?griefing is ony griefing when LL says it is, not you or any of us mortals can make that decision without knowing the full facts - and we don't.shoot first and ask questions later mentality. -
Void Singer wrote:Dogboat Taurog wrote:lets not forget they areallegedsquatters.before the keystone cops start griefing. oh they have done already...
seems pretty clear based on abilities and behavior....and while I didn't advocate griefing them I can certainly understand the sentiment, having seen similar scenarios play out before. I have very little sympathy for them.rezzing a large prim in the store isn't so much griefing as it is testing and confirming a hypothesis. any legit land owner could have easily and quickly dealt with it... an squatter never can and must work around it.its griefing, pure and simple.
one of the stores i rent is full perms no return set, now what if the owner were away for a month on holiday or sick and some presumptuous fool rezzed a giant prim there?
wouldnt that be just dandy?
you are prejudging the issue without evidence and hearsay does not count where i come from.
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Void Singer wrote:Dogboat Taurog wrote:Chronometria wrote:Well, i would say to fight fire with fire.As such, if they are not looking after the land but anyone can build on it......you should go build on it first and put something tasteful there. Need to be pro-active, otherwise more motivated people will beat you to it and this sort of thing happens.Of course, that wont stop other people building on it, but it may well make them less likely to do so, or might fool them into thinking the land is being maintained, so they look elsewhere.Otherwise, i agree with the posters above who suggested you file a ticket about it all and ask the lindens to set an auto return.
these alleged "squatters" are not being agressive, they opened a store.all i can see from the OP is spite.perhaps he should mind his own business eh?.petty.yes how horribly petty, I'm sure no legitimate RL business would ever complain if you set up a store in the adjacent empty lot... seriously?as a general rule, people that ignore one property law or rule, are much more likely to violate others.lets not forget they are alleged squatters.
before the keystone cops start griefing. oh they have done already...
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Chronometria wrote:Well, i would say to fight fire with fire.As such, if they are not looking after the land but anyone can build on it......you should go build on it first and put something tasteful there. Need to be pro-active, otherwise more motivated people will beat you to it and this sort of thing happens.Of course, that wont stop other people building on it, but it may well make them less likely to do so, or might fool them into thinking the land is being maintained, so they look elsewhere.Otherwise, i agree with the posters above who suggested you file a ticket about it all and ask the lindens to set an auto return.
these alleged "squatters" are not being agressive, they opened a store.
all i can see from the OP is spite.
perhaps he should mind his own business eh?.
petty.
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4tune wrote:Thanks guys! Most of you had valid points and a few of you made me laugh. I learned how to make a meatball in SL today also, haha. The store is in the sky now which makes the ugly factor gone, but as some people sort of said, why should it be there for free! I will kindly ask the squatter to move on before filing a "squatter" report.
sounds like a case of sour grapes to me.
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Deltango Vale wrote:Having said all that, if the General Discussion forum degenerates once again into shouting matches over Apple v Microsoft, LLV2 v Phoenix or child avis (Carole, really!), the whole project will have been a titanic waste of time.
you love it.
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Innula Zenovka wrote:
I don't like it, either, but I'm just trying to make sense of your comment, is all.Are you saying that, when you say it gives "a green light to paedophilic activity, in fact you mean, "it might give someone who isn't familiar with SL the completely mistaken impression that LL condones paedophilia"?if i meant that i would have said it.
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Qwalyphi Korpov wrote:Hey! I just got an Email complaining that this person had set up their mall on my open land and now they can't stock the shelves because some griefer type is putting lots of hidden prims on the land.just kidding.
turn your perms off :smileywink:
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Innula Zenovka wrote:Dogboat Taurog wrote:its the represention of a child combined with an air of sexuality that bothers me and always has done, its dangerous and gives a green light to paedophilic activity.
Sorry, I don't understand. The fact that there's avatars wandering round the grid whose appearance bothers you in this was doesn't mean LL gives "a green light to paedophilic activity" and neither does it mean that the criminal law, in the USA or anywhere else, "gives a green light to paedophilic activity". Who do you say is labouring under the massive misapprehension that it does?i think that any adult who doesn't use SL would be quite shocked to see adults using lolita style child avatars in a virtual world.
i dont accept it either.
however thats just my opinion, and i'm not going to make the mistake of being dragged into a flamefest again.
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Kitteh Scientist wrote:Yes, just like what Qie said. When people stop paying tier. Most of the time LL do nothing to the land, and it just sit there causing trouble to neighbors for years and years and years.Rez sculpt mountain to cover the mall. Apply matching terrain texture. Cover it with pretty trees and bushes. Fill the entire prim quota of the land to prevent more junk from littering the land.If the sqatter still make trouble some way: Make ALT and can rez a freebie house to the land so that the root prim is on the problem parcel, and that the house poke on your land. Then AR the house once a day untill LL arrive. Usually when LL come to clean the parcel, they see that the land been unpaid for years. And LL will finally claim the land back to governor, and wipe all objects from it.
why?
what difference does it make to you or the OP?
at least the "squatter" is doing something positive.
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its the represention of a child combined with an air of sexuality that bothers me and always has done, its dangerous and gives a green light to paedophilic activity.
i would like all child avs kept out of mature and adult land.
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Carole Franizzi wrote:Well, I don't know about you, but I'm seeing them EVERYWHERE. Actually, I take that back. I'm not seeing them everywhere. If I saw them in fairgrounds and fairyland sims I probably wouldn't have noticed them.I'm seeing them in sex sims.Yep. Dressed like lil gurlies, with ankle socks and baby doll dresses and puff sleeves, they sometimes were flatties and sometimes heels, which creates an odd effect - rather like seeing a little girl trying on her mother's high-heeled shoes. The cutsie hair-dos, like bunches and ponytails, add to the infantile effect, the primary "symptom" of which is the height - usually about waist-height to everyone else. The odd lollypop or teddybear can also be seen....So....what the heck is going on? I've been known to challenge them the odd time, but you go round and round in circles trying to talk sensibly with them. "Me??? A child avie???? You gotta be kidding??? You seen my boobs?? Does a child have boobs?". And they're right. A child doesn't have boobs. And that's the little trick. Hair ribbons and lollypops, ankle socks and gingham print dress, small, skinny, childlike body.....with a couple of boobs - that classic ace to pull out and play when they hassle you about being a child avie in an inappropriate place.*sarcasm on*Yeah...'course you're not a child avie....you got boobs....*sarcasm off*
what you are noticing has been going on for a long time... ban them.
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WADE1 Jya wrote:Not all gamers like the most technically advanced platforms best thats why retro emulation is still popular.Gamers will play anything fun & interesting.For example I still like a simple classic such as mario bros. 3 (or even pacman) better than the latest darkly realistic military glorification blockbuster.
i doubt if you could reliably play pacman here, let alone mario.
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Wildcat Furse wrote:Alazarin, I can only applaud your statement and do hope more people would do the same :smileyhappy: *meows*
Me too.
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Jodi Karillion wrote:Tugboat Taurus wrote:
its impossible to create an exact replica of your RL self in SL and i'm suprised you didnt know that.i am myself in SL, given the limitations imposed.i dont think you understand what i mean by acting as yourself.there is no charade with me, i am what i am what i am.I do know that it is impossible to create an exact replica of yourself in sl, hence my disbelief that you would have an avatar that does so. Therefore you are no different to someone using a furry/spider/dragon/box/child avi.You said that it is harder to act as yourself, if you are genuinely being yourself why would that be hard? Surely it should come naturally?I think we might want to try being a bit more inclusive here, and when I say we, I really mean you.i dont think you quite understand what i wrote, or just want to argue about it.
if you can't honestly distinguish between a human av and a furry/spider/dragon/box/child avi then i can't imagine whats going on in your head and therefore i can't hold a rational conversation with you.
ETA, i dont need to be inclusive, i can do as i like and i don't need your inverted dictatorial opinions forced down my throat.
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Jo Yardley wrote:Dogboat Taurog wrote:
Your avatar is an exact replica of your rl self then? I somehow doubt it.its impossible to create an exact replica of your RL self in SL and i'm suprised you didnt know that.My avatar comes petty close to who I am in RL, not there yet but friends who know me in RL spot my avatar in a crowd.Next step, stick my RL skin on the avatar.If I could step in a machine that makes an exact copy avatar of me in RL, I would.I don't get the whole dressing up either, making your avatar look prettier, different, or whatever.But if people want that, go for it.agreed.i apologise if my comments offend some people, but thats the way i think, and to stifle opinion is the thin end of the wedge. -
Your avatar is an exact replica of your rl self then? I somehow doubt it.In my opinion you shouldn't have to "act" as yourself, you should simply be yourself, if you are acting at being yourself then the whole thing is still a charade and far from honest.its impossible to create an exact replica of your RL self in SL and i'm suprised you didnt know that.
i am myself in SL, given the limitations imposed.
i dont think you understand what i mean by acting as yourself.
there is no charade with me, i am what i am what i am.
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Pussycat Catnap wrote:Dogboat Taurog wrote:i go to clubs populated with adult looking avatars, people turning up as animals or other things just break the reality for me.in fact i think anyone who dresses non adult and goes to adult clubs tends to be a immature and a show off.
Immature and show-off-ish to be a furry or a neko?If we're throwing around insults how about, by way of example; 'lack of immagination' for being stuck as a human?I can understand places having a themed dress code, but don't sink to calling people with a different sense of virtual self 'immature' or we'll all be tossing insults back and forth at each other.i think being a spider in a human environment is the same as furries or nekos, dinosaurs or child avs, whatever, in a human environment, thats what i was saying,
but dont you think you are trying to attract attention by being different?
to me that shows immaturity and a exagerated sense of self importance.
why choose to be something you are not?
to be honest, i think its far harder to act as yourself.
there is no veneer to hide behind, and the residents who appear and act human are my choice of company because they are prone to be more honest.
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i go to clubs populated with adult looking avatars, people turning up as animals or other things just break the reality for me.
in fact i think anyone who dresses non adult and goes to adult clubs tends to be a immature and a show off.
ps (by adult i dont mean sex clubs).
i'm sure there are clubs for spider like avatars, personally i use a shoe...
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presumably the vote on photo competitions (pay to enter) are in that case illegal also.
all silly as far as i see it.
i doubt if you will get a straight answer from our orwellian benefactors....
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your system likely needs MS C++ Runtime Libraries.
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yes the set up fee is a lot of money and i can almost guarantee you will never make money from renting in SL.
in fact you will probably sell your land in 3 years for less then you paid for it.
SL is a money pit nowadays.
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you said it yourself with your x-box comment, sl will never be as smooth or reliable as a proper gaming system.
no serious gamer would use SL as a platform for fps games.
get an x -box.
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personally i have better and bigger things to do than hunt alleged squatters.
each to their own i guess.