Shiera Kealoha
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I already said that I don't support censorship, nor that content needs a warning label (as did others.) I can take accountability for the fact that my content can influence people into making choices, whether that is on SL or other apps. I can also realize that other people's content can influence me into making choices, and I do take accountability for that as well.
The question was, "does it...increase the chance that others might smoke in RL?" Yes, it does, and that doesn't mean that we are not taking accountability for our actions. It is called being self-aware, and not having an ego. It has nothing to do with blame, nor victimhood.
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the face has me dying
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Just now, Sammy Huntsman said:
I wasn't saying you had ideations of suicide, but if others have ideations. Then maybe they need to get help, you can't blame the song for them committing suicide. I mean that is absolutely absurd. No its the fact that people need to take self accountability for their actions and stop blaming others.
I edited my comment since I realized you did not mean that. Anyway, I think I'm gonna go smoke a blunt now LOL. Have a good one (seriously, not trying to be an ass).
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12 minutes ago, Sammy Huntsman said:
So we might as well just not have anything bad in media at all, especially in film, tv shows video games or art. It might just influence someone to do a bad thing. Do you see how moronic that sounds? I do, it is a form of censorship. And there has been tonnes of sad songs out there, and i mean yeah it can influence feelings. But if you have ideations about suicide, maybe you should seek some help. And not blame it on the artist.
No one is even saying that anything should be censored. In my original post on this thread, I even stated that people's freedom of expression should not be infringed upon. This sounds moronic to you because you already have a bias and refuse to see other people's perspectives.
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4 minutes ago, Sammy Huntsman said:
So what should we as the creator put a warning label in our descriptions, telling people that this is harmful and why it is harmful. I feel like this is what you and the two others are saying. Oh if I have cigarette in my picture, I should tell the viewer that harmful effects of smoking and that they shouldn't do it.
I am a musician. If I were to create sad, depressing music, I would keep it to myself. Why? Because people could relate to those songs and end up committing suicide. The point is that what you choose to portray will influence someone. No one is saying that you need a warning label.
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1 minute ago, Sammy Huntsman said:
No one is promoting it, they are using it as a tool to set the mood. Especially when you see most of the pics, are of someone escaping reality, dealing with lots of crap. This helps to portray that, without having to show what they are escaping from or what kinda bad stuff they are dealing with. In any pic I took, that had a cigarette in it. It usually was a dark pic, and it was used to signify escaping from something. So I would assume, that this is what the artist is trying to convey.
You are focusing on a word rather than the bigger picture, and this is why you are missing the point that miss Luna Bliss and I are trying to convey.
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8 minutes ago, Sammy Huntsman said:
But here is the big thing, you chose to do it. No one influenced you whatever, you saw some wine on the TV. You go oh I want wine, but then realize you don't need it. See it is all about choice. You have a choice, to let the influence get to you or not. That is all on you. I see a tonne of ads that make me want something really bad, but I don't get it.
You can be influenced into making a *****ty choice. This is why I'd rather not use myself as an example, because I already know that other than me, people are influenced by either positive or negative things that people post every single day.
The original question was:
"But does it help promote the idea that smoking is glamorous and [thus] increase the chance that others might smoke in RL?
And I agree that yes, when someone posts pictures with drugs/alcohol, that can and will influence someone. That is all. This is not about blame or force, but the fact that what others do can lead people into making either good or *****ty decisions. -
3 minutes ago, Ayeleeon said:
Yeah well who knows about actual gender
Trueeee!!!
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Just now, Sammy Huntsman said:
But if you don't like it, you can just easily scroll on by. I mean you are responsible for yourself and what you take from the image. That is my point, no one is forcing you to look at it. No one is forcing you to keep your gaze on it, that and I mean example on Flickr. If you don't like it, and feel it is influencing you in a negative way, unfollow and block the person. Stop putting the responsibility on the artist and hold yourself accountable for your own actions.
Yes but even if someone scrolls past it, later on they may think "I want some wine, I want a blunt." Hell, it has happened to me. That does not mean that those images did not influence me in some way. And it's not about force, because no one forced me to do anything. However, that does not mean that I was not influenced.
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4 minutes ago, LittleMe Jewell said:
I'd say the predominance of women responding has more to do with the ratio of women to men here in the forums.
Yeah, I am noticing that it's more women who are on here than actual men.
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5 minutes ago, Sammy Huntsman said:
But here is the thing, you are not being forced to look at that image. You can just as easily scroll on by, to avoid getting triggered. So the accountability and responsibility doesn't lay on the artist, it is on the viewer. We need to stop putting it on the creator, I mean YouTube is a fine example of that. Creators have to create content that is either family friendly or has some kinda warning of adult content. As somehow they are responsible for their viewers who watch it.
You are responsible for what you choose to portray. And it can influence someone, whether that be negatively or positively. It is that simple. I have posted my character smoking a blunt and drinking champagne and wine. I know that images of my character drinking or smoking could still be influential to someone at the end of the day. I know it may sound absurd, but that's really just how it is.
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15 minutes ago, Ayeleeon said:
But how many times has it been said, "behind the avatar is a real.petson with real.feelings" it seems that is said when it is convenient and forgiven when it's not.
People just do not want to take accountability for the fact that their images can have negative repercussions. And by people, I mean that it's mostly women (not to sound sexist but look who is commenting) since we tend to think more emotionally rather than logically when a question is presented to us. Just want to say, there was nothing wrong with your question. It was a good one.
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4 minutes ago, Sammy Huntsman said:
I am not talking about dispensary marijuana, and smoking marijuana is just as bad as smoking. Again, due to the combustibles. That all being said, I think it would be far healthier and wiser to vape it. Making sure the product you get, does not have Diacetyl in it.
Vape pens are also dispensary. And I disagree, it is nowhere near as bad as smoking cigarettes. Everything in moderation though.
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1 minute ago, Sammy Huntsman said:
I mean the only way it is dangerous, is if there is diacetyl in your vape juice. Whether it be nic salts or a thc vape. Vape juices made without that chemical, do not cause that issue.
Regardless, I would not ever suggest anyone smoke dispensary marijuana. There is a reason why there is a cancer warning on their labels of the products. Marijuana has always been a therapeutic, it has never previously caused anyone cancer. It has been used as an herbal remedy for centuries. But I could see it actually causing people cancer at this point, what with corrupt companies having their grimey hands all over it.
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2 minutes ago, Sammy Huntsman said:
But THC can be used in vape pens and actually be less harmless than it's smoked counterparts. I don't see why people need to demonize it, I don't smoke it, however I am not gonna demonize it.
Depending on the vape pens, they can be quite dangerous than smoking the actual plant. People have died from "popcorn lungs" due to *****ty vape pens. But unfortunately when it comes to the actual plant, people are growing them with pesticides now, which isn't good for anyone to inhale. Dispensary weed = poison. You have to pay more money for "organic," which is crazy.
Homegrown all the way!-
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10 minutes ago, LittleMe Jewell said:
Yes, smoking it is harmful in many ways and addictive --- but it does not dull the senses. Do some research on the topic of nicotine & brains.
I'm not arguing that smoking is not harmful. I am simply refuting some of your comments that are not true. You should at least use facts when arguing a point of view.
I have done research, clearly you have not done enough. And I'm not even going to try and debate with someone who has an obvious case of confirmation bias. Good day.
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Just now, LittleMe Jewell said:
Smoking never dulled my senses - other than my sense of taste and sense of smell. Nicotine can actually enhance a person's ability to focus and can improve memory.
Alcohol will have a far more severe reaction on someone's ability to focus.
Okay, again, you are talking about yourself, just as Jordan was. Are you everybody else?
Nicotine is harmful and addictive, it is not a good thing. For you to be making excuses for things that are harmful to people is honestly pretty mindboggling.-
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5 minutes ago, LittleMe Jewell said:
It won't ever happen. We are all imperfect humans and thus we will never achieve a state where absolutely every single thing we say and do will not harm someone in some way.
I know that it won't happen. These things were introduced a long time ago in order to hurt the individual and essentially keep their senses dulled. It works, and has been working well for a long time now.
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1 minute ago, Jordan Whitt said:
Living in a world like that terrifies me.
Living in this world terrifies me.
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12 minutes ago, LittleMe Jewell said:
Every single person does things that can manage to impact someone negatively -- and there is no way to prevent it.
As I said in my post, it would take generations of teaching (reprogramming, if you will) for things to change. I also said that won't happen anytime soon.
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2 minutes ago, Jordan Whitt said:
Being trapped with my family in lock downs for weeks on end is far more likely to drive me to drinking again than seeing a picture of someone holding a beer!
Okay. And for others, it could be an image of someone drinking on instagram, facebook, or even on here. You are speaking for yourself, not others.
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22 minutes ago, Nalates Urriah said:
Unfortunately, some people never develop the skills needed to protect their thinking from directed influence, regardless of age. More unfortunate is human nature is such that to a greater or lesser extent everyone can be programmed when that nature is understood. The infamous example is Nazi propaganda and censorship (aka controlled media and cancel culture).
This is what I was trying to express, but failed to. Regardless of what people think, they can influence someone in a negative manner by what they choose to portray to people. Whether that be smoking, alcoholism, sex, etc. We see this in real life, on other social media apps, and we see this on here.
What is concerning is people's lack of accountability. It seems as if quite a few do not want to accept the fact that what they post could be influential in a negative way. People do not like being told that they could potentially be doing something wrong, which isn't a good thing. That is ego getting in the way.
I don't think that means that we should infringe on someone's freedom of expression, though. It would take generations of teaching people what is acceptable/what is not for things to truly change in today's world, and that isn't going to happen any time soon.-
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Smoking: Influencing vs Programmability
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I assume it will happen soon, since it devolved into emotional BS of "you are blaming me!!"