CelestineDemetria

Some LE's are in fact are No Transfer. Yes in theory after you hold them for said period of time you can "Birth " them and then sell them. But in an LE Box you cannot just sell them on as is. You have to Birth said Animal and then yes, you do know all the stuff that does come along with whatever animal it is. That is the case with 3 different Breedables that I do currnetly all different companies, The same thing applies you must pre birth a LE at the time of sales if you would like to sell them on. LEs in Theory they are transferable but not until after birth. Just like any other animal. Even states it on the websites, for commonly asked questions. You cannot just sell LE boxes onto other customers without pre birthing the animal. Can in fact quote said websites. If you would like.

How about Auction houses for Various Items? That people would still like to Collect and Trade. Just an Idea.

Side thought. Is this not like people who open up lootboxes or similar selling "Boxes" and sell off the items as people see them? Bunch of "DUD items pop out but Ohh a Cool item, I'll take it. Its just a opened "Gacha" where you can choose to get through the content you don't want in hopes of that one cool thing popping up that you do want. Shrugs. Smh

Side thought. Is this not like people who open up lootboxes or similar selling "Boxes" and sell off the items as people see them? Bunch of "DUD items pop out but Ohh a Cool item, I'll take it. Its just a opened "Gacha" where you can choose to get through the content you don't want in hopes of that one cool thing popping up that you do want. Shrugs. Smh

People will honestly just use alts. Boop between both and get to the item quicker. If ya just have to be in proximity of the machine easy enough. Right.LOL.

"New" Vendor System. "A Wolf in Sheep's Clothing". Same deal just Rebranding of the model. Glad as a creator you say something. Because this Idea was supposedly thought up to help the current creators continue to be able to sell. More like the current buyers getting the same "thrill".

Right!! LOLS. 🤣

Can't stop laughing. just have one whole herd of shoes. one of pants .. lols

Hahaha. Right.

To me the way you put it sounds correct. "Known" attributes need to be known to buyer "Unknown" things are okay for down the line. But who knows it's SL.-Shrugs-

Or just tell Everyone you need to List the First 3 attributes. Color/species,Eyes,Gender and something that may make it different like 1 rare attribute. Shrugs- Something common all breedables have. Except trains DK what to do about them.. Hahaha

Was thinking maybe skirts.. You could breed a whole herd of wearable outfits. 🤪

my original question I had asked to get clarification. I was asking about the original box from the creator being sold to you "Randomly" only per say knowing it's a cat in a box .- someone stated as long as you know the color- Nope. As Long as you know the Attributes of the Animal being purchased from the Creator at point of sales. Not the secondary breeding after that is not in question with traits and what not popping out, that I already know is fine from reading it.

Got what you are saying. Was I guess a bit confusing. Only because they give just one "Trait" or attribute as an example. Take that one thing and run with it .. "Well they said one so one it is " After the other post I totally get what you mean and they are saying now. Let's hope others do. Hahaha

Okay. Easy to wrap my brain around that.

Okay, was like well dang. That though, does open a strange door for people to use as it's called atm " Random Bundle, nest whatever animal seller "( Name will have to change probably ) as long as you would put EX: Brown cat on it, and load it up with all brown cats of varying traits. Hmm.. Shrugs. Or am I thinking complete opposite of what will fly.

Q. So a Breedable box from the Creator that says Random breedable at time of sales is Okay? As long as you know it's a EX.cat in the box. Because most Breedables, not all but some give only that much to work with just a (animal) in a box all other things randomized at time of purchase so you don't know if it's that Blue cat or that Brown cat, it's a surprise.

I totally get it. That would be some nightmare listings. LOL. Prolly be here till ya Great Great Great grandkids trying to list that. 🙂 Clarity on "Description at sales point", with something like that Is definitely needed by the Powers at Be and Their Counsel.

Hey, I would @Patch Linden this Question. Just so in the Long Line of this Thread Maybe he or someone else of authority with the actual LL will answer it. Have a great one. Only trying to be helpful and get your Question looked at by powers at be.

You must know the actual product you are getting when you buy. - Also what you said "No, all LEs do not all hold the exact same genetics, they are, by design, a bit different," - Tari Landar Both statements by you are conflicting. Time of sales random then. (if they are all a bit diff as you said.) Get what you are getting at, said it on page 28, 30 & 53 . - we are on the same page about that- never the issue.- you just made it seem that way. So besides genders being random. Hidden things in Items being sold to different people would count the same way. - only thing I was getting at- in that initial purchase. Like ya said if all items are the same, the same le's at time of purchase should not hold items that others don't. (your Genetics)( Each product then is not the same- same on outside not on inside- but varying at time of purchase- if some boxes animals hold hidden items and some boxes animals don't)

Okay, get what your saying. What I'm getting at is your playing or paying money to get a Different Item then the previously bought Item as you- put it or say in the Post-. Is that not Randomization? IF each LE pack is a bit different unknowingly to you or not ( is that not like a gacha, if each item coming out is seemingly different from the previous?, but for the same payment) Different items being sent to different subscribers on a chance basis is not allowed. - Is that Quote from patch Linden not the same as what you described. That's what I have been trying to get at. Then you hope that new desired thing pops out. (hidden trait) unknown item in some of the packs or animals.(money maker) (intrinsic monetary value placed on that item of Rarity- if not all packs contain them)- like you said if each pack is unknowingly different. Most breeders don't breed to just keep the Animal. It is Transferable so then you can take it and sell it. You take the initial gamble of first buying (getting a different item then the previous item), Another gamble Breeding, to get that hidden thing (diff trait) . To then sell it on for more or less. So you are gambling that you will receive that item, and make more or less money off the Randomization of the animals being sold as you stated- if everyone is a bit diff. You are not knowing/getting what exactly what you pay for. (if those things are hidden- you don't know if you got the same or different then item previously)

Do you do breedable? That LE Pack not talking secondary Breeding but the stuff you get from the creator LE PACKS . To breed them LE's together for the hope and chance that you might drop that random hidden item in them. Which they call it that. Random drop- I.E numerical Sequence. Not cause that Other LE Has Anything different than yours they are all loaded with exactly the same things. ( So one person gets it and one doesn't, Even though they put the same money into the initial purchase and anything else required to get that animal to breed) - All with the LE Packs .- (Said that in initial posting Only LE Stuff or Starters Packs) That is Randomization. ( Chance, Luck ) whatever you want to call it. Not some secondary stuff about genetics and what not. That is all a sequence of numbers held in a script) You get enough theoretical Stars on a Certain trait and suddenly the trait pops out from the server end.)- Not cause your animal had good blood or anything like that- it's just a randomized sequence of numbers. And if that animal has only a limited set of numbers being placed into it yea it's going to pop out that same set of numbers. ( your so called Genetics)

Ok , so say you and your friend decide to buy an LE pack knowing the coat does not transfer. But you know that in that Item there is a Hidden Item pops out every now and then. Besides all the known traits already in the background that pops out (Randomized) You and your friend take it home. You both do the exact same thing I.E buy the food, Etc., to have that animal do what it's name intends it to do. (Breed) You and your friend wait About a month. Wham! your friends Animal which has everything exactly the same, same food, Same Vitamins, same everything that you have given your animal. Spits out that Randomized hidden thing on the Server. (Its a numerical Sequence that decides when it comes out) What is that Called? Randomization and Luck - A chance that you breeding them 2 LE animals together for that "hidden" thing in them, and you getting the luck or chance for it to come out. So your friend got the luck of the draw and dropped that new thing even though both of you put the exact same money into that animal.

I agree with you, for some without that food crystal- whatever incentive. The item does not work as intended.

So do Breedables then fall into a different category than the 7seas? The Item does not work properly without the purchase of additional Items. I.E Food & Vitamins,etc. So if you want the intended outcome of the name of the Animal (Breedable). You the buyer need to Buy into the system and keep buying into the system. So the Item the animal births isn't free. It also is "random" well to what is on the server and what is spits out. If the Birthed animal/item cannot contact the server it's literally just a box it spit out for you. You are just Circumventing paying for that Item that you birthed. To then turn around and sell it for more or less, because they are transferable.