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    Removal of "Gift To" On Large Ticket or No Copy Items

    in Merchants

    Posted

    3 hours ago, Klytyna said:

    Useless, pointless, clueless.

    Here is how it works, pay close attention,

    YOU pay 50 ls for a gacha 'pull' and get "Cool Outfit - Panties - Red" net value 50 ls. YOU decide that this is a valuable item easily worth 5000 ls, and offer it on the MP as such.

    A payment registered premium account gets borrowed by Phrank the Phisher, and he buys your 5k gacha, and 4 others and sends them to 5 different people, 1 alt of his, and 4 innocent bystanders to serve as a smoke-screen.

    2 of the bystanders wear the panties, 2 bystanders and Phranks alt sell the panties for 1000 ls in yardsales, 1 of the yardsale purchasers wears the panties, the other 2 put the 'valuable gacha' on their mp stores for 4500 ls.

    The owner of the borrowed account that payed for all this complains, LL recover their money, but they don't recover your 'valuable gacha' because the damn things have passed through the hands of 20 different people, and tracing all that takes TIME, time that LL pay for, some junior Linden Clan member on $20 an hour, an extra hours work tracking down 5 gacha panties with an official replacement value of... 50 ls each on a gacha machine, 1 us$ the lot.

    YOU say you 'lost' 25,000 ls worth of valuable mechandise, but what you actually lost was, a dollars worth of gacha. LL won't spend $20-$40 recovering your 1$.

    Sorry but those are the harsh economics of gacha resale .

     

    Also we lose time to play, making sets, listing them. When this is happened we lose our money besides our time, then we never be able to sell those items because of the well known multi gacha resellers (I don't want to call them copybotter, they are alike) on MP. They copy in 24 hours, it must be a record! This is another issue Linden Labs should solve.

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    Removal of "Gift To" On Large Ticket or No Copy Items

    in Merchants

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    6 hours ago, Lucia Nightfire said:

    The overall problem is that LL only follows the money and goes no further where that ends. Governance needs to update their protocols to also follow purchases and distributions of no copy objects as well if they find that that stolen funds were used in the original purchase and return the no copy object(s) back to the original seller.

    While it is true that a no gift option on marketplace could still be abused with an alt making the purchase, logging in and transfering the object to another alt possibly generating a transaction trail, it would still slow them down and make it even easier to track their actions.

    This feature aims to decrease the chances of fraud, as it is impossible to deter fraud 100% of the time.

    A seller can have peace of mind not allowing gifting of high dollar items and/or no copy items if they choose.

    With all that said, I'm curious how you all would feel about additional listing options such as:

    - Accounts must have Premium status to buy this item.

    - Accounts must have Premium status to search/see this listing.

    - Accounts must have payment info used to buy this item.

    - Accounts must have payment info used to search/see this listing.

    - Accounts must have payment info on file to buy this item.

    - Accounts must have payment info on file to search/see this listing.

    Such listing options would also further reduce the chance of fraud.

    Adult listings already require adult status afaik so it shouldn't be hard to check for the logged-in account to possess any of these flags. Granted, it may hurt sales chances, but it should still be up to the seller who they fell comfortable marketing and/or selling to.

    That would be nice if the purchasers were alts, only the people who get the items are alts. Buyers are stolen accounts.

    Create a second store in marketplace

    in Merchants

    Posted

    On 23.03.2017 at 11:02 PM, Zunzun Clarity said:

    ty so much Chic

    another alt then :) nothing to do about it

    Marketplace store owners need to be more than 30 days old as far as I remember and all those alts need to have file info in their accounts. If this helps...

    Create a second store in marketplace

    in Merchants

    Posted

    On 14.04.2017 at 0:56 PM, Christhiana said:

    You are allowed to have up to 5 alts.

    Each alt is allowed to have it's own marketplace store.

    You are however not allowed to sell the same product in multiple stores.

    Also TOS says you are not allowed to login more than 2 of those daily. (=

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    Removal of "Gift To" On Large Ticket or No Copy Items

    in Merchants

    Posted · Edited by OxfordLennox

    9 hours ago, Lexbot Sinister said:

    Is that because they can't, or because they don't need to?

     

    I'm just wondering if making gifting from the marketplace optional would solve it, or if the thieves would just use another viewer with little or no problems at all.

    Meaning that the gifting itself isn't the risk factor but the item being no copy/trans.

    It is probably because they don't need to. They can even purchase gacha items inworld by stolen avatars and give them to alts. The thing is I think they don't have good knowledge about gacha items, they usually hit most expensive ones in the market. If gifting option is disabled, I'll put my gacha items into copy no trans boxes which will make it giving them away harder for them. I don't think they simply give to alts, because it will be shown on transactions, I bet they give edit rights and take items with other alts. By this way the track of the items are being lost. I am trying to make my boxes copy from now on because of that. They must open packages, box them again, new boxing will give the banned alt's name as last owner, so we will be able to track as explorers inworld. Just trying to make it harder for them. These may decrease their actions.

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    HUD with media script doesn't work for some people.

    in LSL Scripting

    Posted

    5 hours ago, Rachel1206 Resident said:

    I tested first simple version of it and it worked without problems, but the one labeled LARGER TO FILL FORMS just appeared as a narrow beam. Then I tried the simple one and the default one again and now they also appeared as narrow beams not showing any content - detaching and attaching any of them did not help. So it seems, something is wrong in your script.

     

    Are you using Mac? Some Mac users had some people with the hud as internal viewer, so I had to add extra buttons to the page to search in page. Can you please show me a photo?

    HUD with media script doesn't work for some people.

    in LSL Scripting

    Posted

    5 hours ago, Rachel1206 Resident said:

    Just making a media prim with an URL to http://gachalocatorhud.weebly.com/ works without problems. And unless you do need to collect some kind of information internal in SL in your HUD, do you need a script to show the web-page?  Sometimes keep it simple is a better solution :-)

     

     

    I just want people to teleport by the hud, that's all. (= And thank you all for kind answers. One of the people told me their shared media is turned off and when turned on it seems to be worked. I think yeah this is solved. Problem is found. You are all awesome helps!

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    HUD with media script doesn't work for some people.

    in LSL Scripting

    Posted

    11 minutes ago, Rolig Loon said:

    It sounds like Innula has probably identified your problem.  That object is nothing more than a prim that is set to use Shared Media (Media On A Prim -- MOAP).  It won't work for any user unless the user has set her own Preferences to allow the viewer to display streamed media.

    None of those are ticked on mine, but it works when attached automatically. https://gyazo.com/9592a0c816ec9b1eb8c6bef8a859cb2f

    HUD with media script doesn't work for some people.

    in LSL Scripting

    Posted

    Hello, I created a HUD with a media script inside. It works perfectly typically when worn as HUD or rezzed. But some people told me they only see a black screen and can't make it to be worked.

    - One of them updated his Flash player and he is trying it in a script allowed land, he says it still doesn't load.

    Hud doesn't have a video stream, just connecting to an outer web page, an easy script. I can't understand why only a few people can't make it worked for themselves, what may cause this problem?

    Thanks kindly.

    Removal of "Gift To" On Large Ticket or No Copy Items

    in Merchants

    Posted

    1 minute ago, Whirly Fizzle said:

    Yeah this,
    There is zero reason to allow MP gifting on no copy/yes transfer items & removing that ability would kill this scam dead.

    Agreed. They are already transfer. Buyer is not sure what's in the box, they might even purchase an empty box. Empty box purchases can be solved by LL if they can prove, if gachas are gifted they can't prove also. That means there is no good reason to gift the gacha items.

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    Removal of "Gift To" On Large Ticket or No Copy Items

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    Posted

    One of the hacked buyer told me that she couldn't take her lindens back after LL taking them from me. Some of those alts are banned, some are not. I sometimes think those people just do it to piss off others, sometimes I think they will sell those gacha items in a near future. Hacked buyer will take her lindens back, my items will never be sent, it's a double lose for gacha resellers. We pay to machine, we pay to others to complete the sets, our sets are being stolen, we lose our money and items. It's not fair. I just wish this will never be happened again but related to my experiences, it has continued for 6 months and it will continue, since Linden Labs' taken actions are supportive for them. They sent us to read "Second Life Terms of Service" rules and none of them say they can hurt my linden balance for something I am not related. This is real money, ignoring tickets written won't help. We just want something simple. Remove the option to buy as gift if the perms are ticked only trans or trans/mod only. Thank you.

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    Removal of "Gift To" On Large Ticket or No Copy Items

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    Posted

    I personally lost 75k Lindens from the fraudulent activity of gifting my gacha items to their alts. It sounds like the only way to prevent those people sending our valuable gacha items to their alts from the stolen accounts. It's being harsh to see something is gifted even if it's legit. I wish I could set my store not allowed to gift listings. Best idea!

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