Mitsuko Kytori

Okay, so I advise LL before authorize import mesh, for example, to ask for a proof of legal license. And we will see the result '_'

In addition, it is easy to imagine if one people pay 1000 $ for CS6 Photoshop and try to sell his products against people paid 100 $ in ads on second life and use illegal license for CS6. Between the two, who will win ? And who will be in good paper of second life, I let you imagine

Strange, moral lesson about name vendor but Photoshop : 1000 $ 3D Max : more than 3500 $ Maya : 3500 $ ICAD : more than 5000$ How many people sell in second life and have legal license ? is it controled by LL ? I paid my software, and I advise clearly any true designer make nice jobs with legal lcense that fights against unfair system ro try to see with what software product done and search if it with legal license I think we will laught ...

I am agree but I am sure some shop are clearly in good papers. Perhaps they encounter same bug as me, but I am sure LL answer if they open ticket or send a mail. For me it is not the case.

Not agree, free market with plenty of "designer" use illegal license software or go on 3D free market and resell it ! I am sure if on second life control designer and ask themto provide a proof of legal license software, that make a buzz '_' But , they prefer close eyes

Hello, In my side, I am so disgusted by how this unfair system, that I decide to sell all my avatar products for 0 l$. So, I just hope in average term there will not big shop or small shop, shop with favor or not. Just all to 0 l$. Plenty of "designer" have money to put in ads on marketplace but use illegal license software !!! The only way to break all the system is break with 0l$ products. I see only this mean for now.

Thanks very much for your answer,I will contact this place quickly. But for sure I will put all my products for free. I have not in mind to win money in second life, just the pleasure to have a shop in a fair system. I have a half full sim so I can dedicated many many prims for freebies for sure.

The system of subscription have two faces A face, the good face, for a category of vendor : sure in this case subscription works nice and without any bug I am sure. And if there are bug I am sure LL answer to the vendor The other face is, the sad face, for the other vendors, the small or the new, and in this case for sure, no support, no ads works, and bug exist a lot. A proof ? too easy : 3 products with ads in progress : impression for last day : 89, 78, 94 Fine Necklace with nice detailed flowers all around, copy& modify on Feature this item on the home page (L$899 every 7 days) 89 / 430 / 430 2 / 2 / 2 active Free innovative sculpy eyes, I send fullperm on just ask, free eyes Feature this item on the home page (L$899 every 7 days) 78 / 225 / 225 0 / 2 / 2 active Free innovative sculpy eyes, I send fullperm on just ask, free eyes Feature this item on the home page (L$899 every 7 days) 94 / 237 / 237 1 / 10 / 10 active And now : 108 impressions but ads is expired ! One Prim TRUE Tree, True 3D Trunk, True Foliage, 2 Foliages and 3 Shapes, Special Winter Edition, Copy&Modify Feature this item on the home page (L$1,699 every 15 days) 108 / 1515 / 6707 0 / 6 / 36 active expired since : December 08, 2012 One Prim TRUE Tree, True 3D Trunk, True Foliage, 2 Foliages and 3 Shapes, Special Winter Edition, Copy&Modify Feature this item on the home page (L$1,699 every 15 days) November 23, 2012 December 08, 2012 expiring Edit

In fact, I spend many l$ in ads from ,Linden Lab. But there bugs or that's doesn't works. I write 8 times to service by email, open two tickets. Waste of time with support, and money for ads. Support, there are a support ??? ^^ ha yes there are a textbox to write^^ I have or had more than 30 ads in marketplace, without any result ... and I finish to understand there are absolutly no luck to compete with shops have the favour or are in the good paper. It is a fact. http://community.secondlife.com/t5/General-Discussion-Forum/Marketplace-how-subscription-work/td-p/1774547

I like too much my trees to sell it for nothing '_' and my mesh trees are sell outside of second life in addition. I am agree about the fact there are many freebies, but it is not my goal , my goal is to act exactly as other skin shop and sell exactly with the same marketing way, but with price at 0 l$ '_' So I just need to learn how other make marketing but in parallel I wish know how diffuse the products quickly, just that

At this time I sell skin at 949 ls with one eyes objects and 899 ls without eyes. I can say and customers too my skin are up to date, but visibly LL dislike small shops, okay, no problem. But little shop doesn't mean little skill design, so I prefer spend time and money to sell for nothing and try to break the system.

Hello, I am a professional designer, after I finish by understand how the system here choking all small shop ( http://community.secondlife.com/t5/General-Discussion-Forum/Marketplace-how-subscription-work/td-p/1774547 ) I decide to launch all my products for avatar for free, i mean really 0 l$. I have in stock more of one hundred of skin, more than 30 shapes and more than hundreds eyes. I am the inventor of sculpty eyes in addition and create all mesh eyes too. All for free. I am ready to send to anybody all they wish in terme of skin, shape and eyes. Mitsuko

Hello, I am a professional designer, after I finish by understand how the system here choking all small shop ( http://community.secondlife.com/t5/General-Discussion-Forum/Marketplace-how-subscription-work/td-p/1774547 ) I decide to launch all my products for avatar for free, i mean really 0 l$. I have in stock more of one hundred of skin, more than 30 shapes and more than hundreds eyes. I am the inventor of sculpty eyes in addition and create all mesh eyes too. All for free. So if anybody can bring me information for a quick and massive diffusion I take it with pleasure, Thanks in advance for your help, Kinds Regards, Mitsuko

I really hope some body can show me I am in wrong way, for now I am just waiting an answer from Linden Lab.

I thought Second Life was a system of meritocracy and not L$ocracy ...

I create and design in 3D area since many years. I have licensed 3D and graphics softwares and work not only for second life. Of course I will not diffuse my 3D objects as nature, art, outfit and so one in mesh for free. Because I design it for second life and outside second life. Concerning avatar and sculpty, the avatar mesh model are specific to second life, I will not lost a lot of thing because the skin design for second life are useful only here, so no problem for me, it is the same for shape and almost for eyes. For sculpty for sure, I can deliver plenty of very fine map create by me, sculpty usesul really only here. Now, why I don't wish earn any l$ ^^ because free is fashion '_', okay bad joke, but for sure I have no luck to sell anything in this unfair system. And in fact it is not unfair in my side. Create, sell, take 3D mesh object on free 3D marketplace, use no legal license software and so one, there are unfair. If I spend my money in advertising in second life instead of of buy software, for sure I obtain better result here. And other creators that stifle competitors using hundreds of thousands of l$ and thus obtaining favors of mp system, good luck, yes.

It is too late, I will stop all activity on marketplace, it is a pure waste of money and time. I not need marketplace to diffuse my avatar products, especially for 0 l$ ^^

Thanks for answer, I will just try for now to organize how disseminate as widely as possible all my skins, all my shapes and my eyes to zero l$ I sell nothing, thanks the system, okay I will be not alone ... I have in stock largely enough products ready to go to begin hit market seriously. Mitsuko

Thanks Trinity, I will change all my point of view about seocnd life for sure. Finally with this totally unfair system I have choice between stop all or hit the market with a massive assault of free products design all by myself. And I have right to sell all of this for zero l$. I'm not sure that this has already happened in second life, but I will make every effort to disseminate as widely as possible all my skins, all my shapes and my eyes to zero l$. And I will see what append in some month when many hundreds of first quality products will be available allwhere for nothing. Mitsuko

Another proof : One Prim TRUE Tree, True 3D Trunk, True Foliage, 2 Foliages and 3 Shapes, Special Winter Edition, Copy&Modify Feature this item on the home page (L$1,699 every 15 days) 144 / 1576 / 6514 0 / 7 / 36 active One Prim TRUE Tree, True 3D Trunk, True Foliage, 2 Foliages and 3 Shapes, Special Winter Edition, Copy&Modify Feature this item on the home page (L$1,699 every 15 days) November 23, 2012 December 08, 2012 expiring Edit 144 impressions this day for an expired subscription ^^, 3 screenshot send to Linden Lab, but in the same time I saw never my 6 new subscriptions. Anybody have see this bug ? and is it a bug ? Mitsuko

To laught : I take a screen shot of course, and I send it to support. Explanation : the subscription ended at december 07 , 2012 but product appears in homepage today. It is the number 1, in the list 1 / 2 / 14 , the click is mine, '_' of course I take a screenshot. Now I am sure with perfect proof there are problem with subscription. Report make now : Tree Collection : 40 Different Trees All Seasons a true value pack, Copy Feature this item on the home page (L$2,899 every 30 days) 153 / 1559 / 10970 1 / 2 / 14 active Tree Collection : 40 Different Trees All Seasons a true value pack, Copy Feature this item on the home page (L$2,899 every 30 days) November 07, 2012 December 07, 2012 expiring Edit Mitsuko

To test, it is so easy, I invit you to find two or three large stores adult products and compare how many times they appear versus products from small shop PG products. If read well PG product have better probability, ... not sure after test. It is very intersting to test it, for sure, just need to refresh ten times and scroll all products, it is quick. I can be totally in wrong, I have a doubt but after two days of test, I finish to find something strange. Mitsuko

Hello, And thanks for your answer. I check now with a friend how many time the products I have with hoempage subscription appears. I can say with sureness : the probability to appear is and I can prove it really not the same for each product. It is really impossible that the probability is the same. I can take anyone as witness here and I encourage you to test, some products appears more often than other. And in my case it is not the good products in addition. Mitsuko

Hello, Please let me send you an advise : when you buy a full perm product try to know before if the seller have licensed software, and if software they used authorize to resell the 3D object. Keep in mind many and many mesh objects in sell in second life are just take from another 3D Marketplace and resell as this ... For information, to build with licenses software a mesh outfit and with the minimum software license that need more than 800 $ (70000 ¥ almost) I will be very surprise to know the number of "creator" spend this ... and so have the legal right to resell 3D object. (And in all case, I am sure they have better luck with subscription marketplace system compare to licensed software users as me, sorry for this out thread remark) Mitsuko

Hello and thanks for your answer, Actually I never reach 1800 impressions per week in average. Despite it is tree product in genaral area. And I have better impression this week for two products : - for one I don't make subscription, - for the second, it is expired since two weeks. I read the answer of Dakota Linden, I can agree about the fact there are not conspiracy. I hope ^^ So Linden Lab will not see with a bad eyes if I launch many hundreds of my products as skin shape and eyes for free, it is not a conspiracy too, it is the only way I find to sell my products, but if anybody explain me a better solution I take it with pleasure, Linden Lab include of course. It will be not a conspiracy it is my work, sell for nothing to enjoy myself the pleasure to sell sometime or perhaps more. I am professional designer, and I am sure I can reach a not so bad success with 0 l$ products in avatar area. Why sell for nothing and not sell at a good price professional product. Because after analyse how work marketplace, I have no luck to sell anything so I prefer give it, logical. But I am perhaps in wrong ... in all case I just hope see my subscription appear sometime, just one time and of course for the good product and not for product I had never paid ... Thanks again for your answer, Mitsuko