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  1. Sansar will widen the gap between the professional 3D designers/elite and the rest of us plebes.

    SL will degrade into IMVU environment, catering to the lowest-denominator, with junk items and junk people, and full of trolls and griefers.

    With that pessimistic outlook, I think SL could still have a long and great future, but since there is no time being invested into revamping it, making it new-user friendly, and cleaning up how merchants design, market and sell their products, along with other issues - it seems doomed for failure.

    At least in my part of the world, for the most part 19 of 20 participants are no longer in SL - and when SL is mentioned to the average person they either 1) Don't understand what it is 2) Think its for losers

    SL is on its way out, and its not because of its usefulness, but rather it's image and presentation.

  2. Sometimes it's not about being daft at all. Sometimes that person is found to be quite narcissistic - he/she literally believes he is attractive, successful and 'the shyte", and so acts in accordance with that.

    Their self-esteem is so falsely high, they don't see themselves in any other way - even if in reality they are a fat, lazy greasy slob with nothing to show or any real success at anything  to prove it.

    If he is rejected, its the other person's fault, never his own.

  3. My products mainly sell Monday to Friday. I thought the weekends would be big (assuming that's when people are most likely to buy things) but for me it's not the case.

    I'm better off spending the weekend and releasing something for Sunday night, rather than Friday night.

  4. Thanks for the info and reminders. I will go over your replies in depth more when I get the chance.

    I do prefer manual decimation over automated, because it is easy if I keep my meshes clean from the beginning - decimation is clean from that. Sometimes I'm not in the mood to work on hi-poly to low its the boring part of design, but I get there eventually :D

    Yes, the 3 names including Drongle, Arton and the other were very helpful in this department, we dont hear enough from them really. I wish they'd have a blog because then my skills might develop faster with some oversight and easier reference than digging out old replies on a forum.

  5. Any shortcoming in this part will be due to lack of documentation and support (and tips from LL) to meet these LOD expectations. Drongle is the only guy so far I have seen to explain this in detail very well.

    My beef mainly is the degradation between the High model (which I optimize from a high poly) to the Medium level, which wants almost 66% decimation, and the switch over inworld is almost instantaneous... if my avatar isn't standing 1m away from the item, it shifts to Medium.

    So many times, I optimize my High to look the best it can, then use the same model for the Medium, then work on optimizing the Low. The lowest is the most formidable, and almost pointless, as if you even use more than 3 vertices, it can make a 3 Li item into 8 Li just on the Lowest model alone - so many times I just make the 3 LODS high, medium and low, and give up on the lowest setting, because it doesnt give me enough vertices to work with to even make a billboard... or the model itself doesn't allow for it.

    I'm all for learning about how to optimize and upload my meshes for SL. Some of us are NOT lazy, we just  don't know how. I do pretty good, though some of my older items blink out too early.

     

    Parts Of My Mesh Keep Disappearing!

    Good info in the replies in that post about LODs, etc. We need this in documentation.


  6. Talligurl wrote:

    I am an artist in SL and I have this idea. I would like to fuind people with businesses, that would be willing to put one of my pictures in thier place of business, I would do a custom painting that features the business, and the painting would be available to your customers priced at 0L, I would also put the painting in my marketplace store priced at 100L with a note that is is available for free inworld at your location. I would include a notecard with the painting that tells about my art, and asks for a donation, but no one is required to give me anything.

     

    Also for those who are willing to show several paintings I would include a tip jar, with half of the preceeds going to you.

     

    If any ofthis sounds intersting either IM me or send a notecard, I am not on much on th eweekends but I am her a while most days Monday to Friday.

    How would you feature my business in a painting? Some examples certainly would be great to understand what you are offering.

    Also, how do I benefit from this deal, since the painting is only $0L at my inworld store, but $100L on your own. Would I get more visitors maybe? What's in it for me to host your advertisement of your art and store at mine?

    Why not just ask someone to host your art like a gallery, and sell it right from there, with some proceeds from each sale going to your host? For example, I may have 50 prims spare for you to use, or help offset the cost of land by sharing prims with another creator on the same land...

    Incoming reply appreciated.

  7. It's hard to understand exactly what your goal is, but I'll try to help;


    Hassel85 wrote:

    I want to change the name of my items on my marketplace. Can i change them easily? or do i have to upload them again? they have their names, but i want to change them to improve the search of those articles on marketplace webside.

    Prerequisite Reading:

    --------- Selling In The Marketplace

     

    --------- Using the Viewer-Managed Marketplace

     

    Yes you can change the name of a product advertisement listing on the Marketplace.

    

     


    Hassel85 wrote:

    i tried to do that, i managed to change the name and when i did a delivery test i can see the names are the new ones i wrote them, but in my marketplace the old name is still the same, it didn't change.

    The product delivered will be the name of the associated item that you uploaded to your Viewer Managed Marketplace. It will be the name of the item included in the original folder.

    [My Default Cube]

    ----[ My Default Cube ]

    ----------- [ My Default Cube Version 2 ]  

    You will need to read "Changing An Item Associated With A Listing" and see if that solves your problem. You will be basically uploading the same product but with a different name, and it will be a new 'version'.

    Hope that helps, if not, you will have to clarify your goals a bit better :D

     

     

  8. Also, I notice some meshes degrade too quickly in order to get low Li ratings. I know I went through that  phase before returning to a post I made long ago in which you helped immensely, but I didn't fully understand and grasp the concepts you presented.

    I'm much better at making the individual LODs now, though I'm not sure how to make the final billboards that represent anything anyway, so in the short term give up on the Lowest LOD looking like anything - though simpler box shapes are easier to flatten.

    I notice the LOD popping when trying to photograph things, and pull the camera back, and the mesh drops LOD right away. in the short term, I increase my Advanced Properties?->Object visibility? up to Highest, and that solves the problem.

    For example, a full size windmill on a sim listed in the log in screen drops to a lower LOD quite quickly and it was hard to get a good photo of it and the surrounding landscape because of this...

    I've also found that bounding boxes play a larger part in LOD display than LOD meshes, as some smaller things I've made degrade wayyyy too fast.

    For example, I'll will need to make some vacuum tubes that are like 4" long tops in-game, but they disappear at 3m+ even if I have clever LODs involved... if I'm making a custom guitar head for example, its really disappointing when your cool design breaks because the tubes disappear almost immediately just because your avatar's face isn't 1m away... bad for photography, where the cam might be 10m away.

    Anyway, we don't hear enough of your expertise on this matter, do you have a blog? I've always appreciated your comments on optimizing mesh and LODs (as well as the expertise you display in your own which I strive for) thanks :D


  9. Kourtney23F wrote:

    I love to shop on the Marketplace, or did. I mean I use it everyday to search out new released outfits or to search for other items.

    I really am tired of gachas on the Marketplace. I scrolled through 40 pages under the refined search of

    Apparel > Women's... Newest first, 96 posts per page

     

    40 pages of gachas for Blueberry Mykonos outfits.  WOW, this is overkill. I really don't want to use MP anymore.

     

    PLEASE Linden Labs give us filters to filter out keywords!

    Gacha is a blight and scourge on the Marketplace, and adds to the bloat by adding multiple listings of the same item, from multiple sellers, uses the same image to represent up to 30 different products, and on a default search spams the listings by hundreds of item listings.

    Using 'NOT Gacha' is fine in the short term, add that to "NOT demo NOT promo NOT rental" and all the rest of the NOTs just to have a decent search result.

    I appreciate the talent put into the Gacha products, their quality seems excellent,  but they need their own category, so that people specifically looking for them can participate in it - or make it a search option like mod/copy/transfer/gachascam to leave the rest of us out of it.

    Right now I have to use "NOT Gacha NOT demo NOT promo NOT sale NOT rental" just to get a clean search result, and that is not acceptable from a user standpoint.

  10. RE: Loopback

    Yes, according to the manual for your audio interface, you need to enable it for it to broadcast what you hear on your computer to the internet.

    Loopback is a convenient function for broadcasting

    over the Internet. It mixes the input audio signals

    (such as microphone and guitar) with the audio

    signals playing back in the software in the computer

    into two channels in the UR22mkII, and sends them

    back to the computer.

    Read more on Page 7 -

     

    There are streaming tests on the internet, but you'll have to google those. I know several sites like Twitch, Justin.TV, Ustream, etc all have tests to see if you can stream effectively. OpenBroadcaster and XSplit (which stream directly from your computer) also have tests and tweaks. See what you can find on this matter.

    Most streaming services you mainly need to tell the software the 'device' you are using to broadcast, installation is not the hardest part, its making sure you have the proper devices.

    Sorry I can't reply with more specifics on ICecast/shoutcast streaming, I just wanted to give you some info on the other issues.

    Maybe some helpful resources:

    Streaming Your Own Music Into Second Life

     

     


  11. Freya Mokusei wrote:

    This has been a good chat. Thanks for understanding my perspective.
    :)

    We agree on all your points, these are the points I wanted to make anyway - much like you, I don't have much experience explaining these things to people, especially if they are discouraged when things change and they have unexpected results.

    And people wonder why I rail on things like listings having no demo button, repeated product images for each color and style of one product, repeated gacha images to reflect 30-item-sets, the overuse and abuse of keywords (probably unknowingly), etc that all contributes to the MP having cluttered searches.

    If I think there is a better way of doing something, I'll suggest it. If someone is gaming the system, I'll point it out.

    In the end, I just want everyone to find what they're looking for, and for the MP to work smoothly, but we all must take responsibility for how we use it, access it, and construct our own listings.

  12. Yet my search for "SMB" ( brand name or initials for something ?) turns up immediately 8252 relevant search results.

    Appears to be child avatar panties, swim suits and pyjamas mainly?

    Even then, assuming you have troubles, just entering "SMB" should have caused problems since it's one keyword, and initials at that - yet I still got relevant results.

    Also, improving your search skills and including more keywords in your search should help you greatly

    Examples;.

    "SMB overalls" ( 415 Results ) would return more relevant results than only "SMB", and even more so if you searched for "SMB Pink Overalls" (13 Results ) or "SMB Pink Camo Overalls" (1 Result)

    Working as expected, and intended.

    Want more relevancy in your searches? Use more than one keyword. Want to be found? Use relevant and accurate titles that describe your product.


    "Relevance : How closely the elements of your ad campaign match what a person seems to be looking for."

    -

  13. I was responding to this quote, and saying you can be found - with a proper keyword search.

     


    Pamela Galli wrote:

    I suspect mine are not very affected because I threw in the towel on all SL search years ago.
    I doubt anyone ever just happens across my stuff -- either they are specifically looking for it or they will never see it. 

     


  14. LuvlyDay wrote:

    Im all in for Upgrading and Improving. But obviously, this New Marketplace isnt going well for  most of us. Newbies have no idea what thier doing and how to fill the searches. They dont even know how to type  demo...to get a demo. They are simple people, they want easy, they dont want complicated crap. Who has time for this?  When i type in a name a big list appears which is crap i dont want, a huge distraction.  Most people that have been hear for years have had a HUGE DROP in sales. If we dont make money, Second Life doesnt make money. As a merchant that has been here for 8 years, at the moment just happy to get someone to buy a demo.

    I just don't see what the matter is. I'm finding anything I want.

    Try entering these search terms;

    "Diamond Wedding Ring"

    "Medieval Fruit Stand"

    "Red Polka Dot Dress"

    "Chain Link Fence"

    As I type, the Marketplace suggest several items that use the keywords I typed in their product listing titles. I would prefer it also seeks the actual keyword list (at product listing time), but since that is rampantly abused - I'm fine with the MP searching titles instead. If the product is not accurately described in it's title, then it shouldn't be considered.

    I had no problem finding a 'demo' item in the search...

    "demo green striped leather jacket" still turned up a result, and that result is relevant to what I'm looking for.

    Anyways, all these searches turn up RELEVANT products to what a use would type in - working as intended.

    Now, if you're a older-generation merchant looking to game the system, and now can't be found, once again I suggest that the merchants concerned should go back to their stores and revamp their listings to accomodate this.

    "Green Striped Leather Jacket with Gold Tassels and Silver Buttons" would be highly preferred item to search than a bloated and frequently abused keyword lists that describes the same item as;

    "green, leather, jacket,gold, silver, platinum,blue, banana, discount,sale,[brand name],jacket,coat,oranges, fishing,medieval,pockets,stitching,tassel,pom-pom,uniform,officers,etc"

    Merchants need to upgrade their thinking, product listings, products, keywords and product listings away from 90's-style spammy SEO crap tactics, into content-based, descriptive and accurate titles and keywords. Most of the posters here complaining so far have numerous examples on their product pages that are pretty much straight up abuse and spam of the MP listing guidelines - they should correct their practices first and then see what the results they get.

    Then we can continue the discussion whether the MP search is broken or not, because for me, it is not.

    Related Resources:

    The key to effective keywording is to
    use all the terms
    – 
    and only the terms
    that are clearly conveyed by the content and context
    of the image.

    Think about the words users would type
    to find your pages, and make sure that your site actually includes those words within it

    The written words in your shop can make it easier for shoppers and search engines to find your items
    .

    Appeal to humans, not search engines.
    Be descriptive. Including relevant common phrases
    in your listing will increase its visibility
    .

     


  15. Sally Audebarn wrote:

    Your intention is good, but the fact remains that
    the search engine is broken
    . It simply is and no matter how many  "work arounds" you suggest (whether they be effective or not), the aforementoned fact will not be altered. Something must be done by LL  to facilitate the Marketplace's much needed repair. All the blame cannot be thrown at us merchants and doing so is blatantly unfair. 

    I wasn't arguing whether the search engine is broken or not.

    In my opinion, it is working as intended (and demonstrated how it does) in some areas, and in others I agreed there is something to look at.

    In the meantime, fix your listings to adhere to the Marketplace Listing Guidelines (and everyone else who is currently complaining) so that we can get an accurate picture of what is really going on. They're not 'workarounds', they're requirements of you as a merchant to assist in the Marketplace working correctly.

    I hope you and the others who quickly want to find fault in my argument realize this and act likewise.

    Accept responsibility for how you list your items, and the effect it would have if and when the Marketplace were truly optimized. I only suggested why you and others WOULD NOT BE FOUND if the Marketplace WORKED AS I WAS SUPPOSED TO, and why you may not be found currently and in future searches.

     


    Caren Jewell wrote:

    I read this Infos and thank you all for spending much time to clear out what happen and how can change something better

     

    What I don't understand is that LL change the MP but take never a look back to change older Issues too. How long must I look at my old Items I delete 7 years ago and have them just right in my List again and again .. to sort this out make sense but it should be a big problem to fix old Issues. I have in my List tons of old Items that I delete tons of years ago - and at last, I can understand the new changes but I have problems with new changes if LL don't spend one minute to think about the consequences for all and changes on ways like "eat or die"

     

     I be willing to change my title and keywords - no problem - it will need tons of time for me, no problem. But only IF I know that LL comes not in short time and changes things again or fix or have new "nice" Ideas

    It might just be a simple case of - it's not their priority.

    If a merchant doesn't like the results, they can always pack up their shop and leave...


  16. JD Hansen wrote:

     

    This is what I am referring to : 

    Load main page: Click on
    Avatar Accessories
    then click
    Jewelry & Watches
    and then click
    Rings
    .

    For 10 years we were listed in the first ten pages of Relevancy. Now I don't see JCNY on the first or second pages

    of
    Relevant
    in association with
    Rings
    Catagory.

    Ok, personally I don't search that way.

    Let's entertain this process though.. technically by selecting Category->Jewelry->Rings, you haven't entered any keywords or searches this way... your search would default to [empty string], or at the possible default "Rings" which it does.

    The marketplace listings search should then find all listings closest to match "Rings". Now you have to compete with every product with 'ring' or 'rings' in the title/keywords.

    If the search is in fact defaulting to "Rings", then it should a random assortment of items it thinks is relevant to "Rings". The key word here being "Relevant". As in relevant to your search terms, not your popularity or amount of sales. This makes sense to me. If LL has improved the search engine, this is how I would expect it to operate.

    If there was a subcategory of Rings->Wedding Rings, you would be more relevant, and even more so if subcategory Rings->Wedding Rings -> Diamond was available.

    By that logic, I could assume that your rings  will show up under "Best Selling" option though, which you do, with multiple listings showing up on the first page of results (my filter is always 96 items).

    Best Selling has nothing to do with Relevance, in a search, it is a filter applied to the final result of the search

     


    JD Hansen wrote:

    Also the MP spam is not totally fixed. When I search "Wedding Rings" I still get a bunch of Earthstones

    necklaces
    in the first five pages. Many of which have no association with wedding rings. 

    MP search still needs tuning it seems. 

    JD

    Thats because the merchants are spamming their item listings and keywords with irrelevant words to capture traffic they don't deserve, and don't accurately describe their product.

    I see it with every search I make. If it's a single seller ruining a search about owl products... I look at their keyword list and there is 'owl', right next to  "traffic, stop, light, owl, road, 2048, chocolate, cheese" or whatever theyr'e trying to capture that has nothing to do with what they have listed..

    PS. You are correct though, The search seems to read the store name as well, and include it in relevant searches. The listings showing up have "Wedding Rings" in their store names, whether they are selling wedding rings or not.

  17. I search "Athena Ring" specifically in the MP and get you as #1 and first choice.

    Seems pretty 'Relevant' to the search I made.

    Would I be looking for an Athena Ring specifically? Probably not.

    My search might be more like "platinum wedding rings" maybe, in which case, your product is not coming up in 'relevant' searches, even if you have similar characteristics or options.

    Your keywords are;

    diamond, wedding rings, wedding ring, engagement ring, bridal, groom, marriage, proposal gem, platinum, gold, silver, ruby, celtic, bling, engaged, JCNY, hyper-gems, free wedding ceremony

    Red = not related to advertised product (wedding or engagement ring? ceremony?proposal?)

    Orange = questionable, but may be acceptable. If it's a wedding ring set, why use engagement, proposal. Sounds like you're trying to snatch search traffic you dont deserve. Also, by my example search "Platinum Wedding Rings", you shouldn't be relevant, because your advertised product and image says "Diamond Wedding Ring" (though I see the options)

    Green = accurate, describes the actual product and images being advertised.

    Your strategy has been about branding and initials and collections, so you will not be found in a simple search Like I would have made. You may have more luck being more specific in your title to be found.

    Diamond Wedding Ring Set  - ATHENA ICONOCLAST

    diamond, wedding, ring, set, celtic, athena, iconoclast, JCNY

     

     


  18. Sally Audebarn wrote:

    Hey there. First and foremost, I appreciate your imput. With that said, I took a look at your store and I realized that the items that pop up on your "most relevant" list are not even remotely the same as those that show up on your "best selling list," not to mention the huge different in the order in which they are sorted. In light of this, I find it difficult to believe that the search engine is not broken, irrespective of the good advice which you have given. Are we to believe that your sales have not taken a dive since the implementation of this new search engine? Quite frankly, I hightly doubt that's the case. The fact remains that the marketplace itself is broken. I am certain that there are merchants out there who have followed your guideline, yet still find themselves experiencing a decline in their sales. 

    Well every merchant that posts here with some listing problem or search problem, I have found to have shortcomings in how they list, categorize and keyword their store items. Though I am no expert on the subject, and have no idea how LL has implemented their search engine, I prefer to eliminate other causes, and educate myself and others on proper listings before making judgements on MP searches.

    When I conduct the usual and anecdotal search for items, I find many unrelated items popping up. This is annoying to me, and unlike many other people, I will take extra steps to investigate before pointing fingers. What I have found in my experience, with further investigation, that the majority of unrelated listings coming up are due to exploiting of item listing titles, or the use of keyword list spam.

    The first 2 respondents to your OP both have listing guideline issues on their stores as well, as I had pointed out in my response. They were supporting you but have issues themselves that need to be addressed before considering MP search issues.

    Look, I can't change your 'beliefs' and your liberal use of the word 'fact' is not substantiated, and your appreciation of my input and advice is moot if you don't make the changes suggested.

    When there are so many merchants not listing things correctly, and abusing keywords - seriously, how can they say anything about bad MP searches when they knowingly contribute to it?

    This is like hearing someone online complain that the flouride in the water is killing them, or droplets from chemtrails in the air - then you find out they have 1) a bad diet 2) don't sleep much 3) smoke a pack of cigarettes a day 4) are sedentary. When I suggest that they should consider these 4 impacts on their health and to correct that first - they have the same response "Oh its not my bad diet, 4 hour sleeps, sedentary lifestyle and constant cigarette smoking.. the fact is that it is the flouride in the water and the barium from the chemtrails!'

    Then what can you say? Can't change what they want to believe...

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