Myra Loveless

Welcome to West Virginia, circa 2102, as per Fallout 76.

WTF? That's not a threat. It's a prediction of what can happen... It's called foresight. Calm yourself! How the HELL do you get a threat from that? Seriously!

Well, I'm thinking a full on captcha... like the click the image type captcha, or something procedurally generated that can't be answered with simple heuristics. but you know the really funny part about modern day "click the images that contain" captchas? They're used to train deep learning AIs to answer the same question... It's like modern captchas are slowly making captchas impossible.

Your agency is not dependent on your success at achieving a goal. Sorry, but it's just not. The "bot" isn't making the decision for you only if you failed. It seems you're arguing that the mere existence of bots at all is what undermines your agency... but only if you become aware of their existence... which is just... weird logic to me. I cannot follow that at all.

This is a valid point... I can't think of any good workaround. Not even making scripted agents detectable via script, because registration of scripted agents is voluntary, and it's up to LL to enforce it, and they only seem to enforce it if the bot is gaming traffic. Hmm... no actually, you know what? Perhaps solving a periodic captcha to play the game?

That doesn't rob you of your agency. It just means you made a mistake. BTW, did you know Bonnie says she's doing what she's doing because she got tired of exactly what you're describing. In fact, if you look at her webpage you'll see they track traffic by delta rather than by strict population count. She explains that it's because sims with high population due to bots have a constantly high population, but if you see a large change in population, it's because something big is going on. Oh, like Bonnie. By that same logic, any information that doesn't come from you undermines your agency. When you look for a place with active people and there's bots? Well your agency is still gone if there's not bots, because your "agency" is still at the mercy of some data aggregator, whether it be Linden Lab or otherwise. ... "agency"

I joined Second Life because Blaxxun was a dumpster fire.

The existence of bots has never robbed me of my agency. I am still perfectly capable of making decisions, whether or not bots exist.

There is a possible consequence of that though. Due to the privilege bot operators have had in regards to not being labeled differently on viewer end of other users, it may cause bot operators to find ways to dodge the system that detects unregistered scripted agents. I advise to be careful about starting an arms race when it might be as simple as training a deep learning AI to pass well enough as a human... "turingism" as you put it. I'm not saying that will happen, but I feel confident in the prediction based on my knowledge of human behavior. Also, "scripted agents" isn't my term. That's LL's term. I'm simply using the wording they use for that specific system of voluntarily registering an account as such.

The person who operates the BBs claims they don't actually own all of the BBs you can find on an avatar search, that some of them are copycats with unknown motivations. You can however go to the BB webpage and see a map of where all the BBs are, and examine the HTML on that page to get a comprehensive list of all the BBs operated by the actual BB project.

In regards to coloring the dots of bots. Eh, could be a good idea. Thing is though, at least on Firestorm, the colors of the dots are in the viewer's settings and not at all set by anything else. The only thing that would be required to implement it, however, is sending the flag for whether an agent is a scripted agent or not to every viewer. I don't know if there's still room in the flags for sending that data, but if there isn't, an extra byte to send to add room for that flag wouldn't be too much trouble I think. Of course it'd only catch those that have voluntarily flagged themselves as scripted agents. Accounts flagged as such don't contribute to the Linden based stat for traffic, and if someone gets caught using a scripted agent to game traffic, that's a bannin'. Of course, that's only if they get caught. And it's the scripted agent that gets banned.

Well, I can't find anywhere on the Bonnie website where that information is being displayed. Can you show where that information is available, please? Again, LL is making the information about marketplace sales public. I explained it before, I'll explain it again. marketplace.secondlife.com shows the most recent purchases. It actually has more recent purchases than what it shows on the webpage, just sitting there in the html files. Linden Labs is showing what items are selling on the market place, who sells it, and how much it costs. LL is the one making that information available to the public, not Bonnie. Unless the Bonnie developer has some kind of direct line from Linden Lab, in all likelihood all the Bonnie is doing is representing the data from the web page in a different format. Again, Linden Lab are the ones making the marketplace sales data public. Bonnie is just reporting on it.

This. Exactly this.

Seems to be. Oh, ok, so you're not talking to me. Why are you directing it at me? Hmm, ok? Who is studio-sky.come? Looks like a business, not a person, and the Bonnie page seems to only be providing data on sales from marketplace.secondlife.com. That's public data. See my previous post to this wone for how that's public data. I did what now? Why are you stalking that creator? Oh wait, did you get it from running a whois on the domain? You know that's public information, right? If you got it from running a whois on the domain, it seems it's that person's problem, not Bonnie's. I mean, they could choose to use an anonymizer service. I don't like GoDaddy but they provide a built in anonymizer for domains bought through them last time I checked. No, I don't. I don't provide data. You're seriously barking up the wrong tree here. Also, what you did was what's called "sleuthing". Sleuthing is not prohibited by any privacy laws. Like I said, if you buy a domain name and don't use an anonymizing service when registering it, that's a choice you make. You chose to make your contact info public. All you're doing is searching public records and crying foul over the fact that public records exist. Sorry, but where in Bonnie's data did you find that? Oh right you got it from public records and following the paper trail that the person in question left on their webpage and Second Life profile, rather than using data from Bonnie. Ok then. If bonnie had never existed, you could have still performed that feat because you didn't use Bonnie's information to identify the person, now did you? The fault here would be with Linden Lab. Again, I already showed you how you can get the same data yourself. Here's the screenshot again. So what you do is you write a script that just looks at the marketplace webpage periodically and record the information on what customers are buying now, and make a note of who the seller is, and Bob's your uncle, or maybe your aunt, I don't know what Bob's gender is. What's the non-gender specific honorific for a parent's sibling? Anyway, that's Bob. So the best argument you have here is that Linden Lab needs to stop showing what customers are buying now.

As per https://secondlife.com/app/tos/tos.php In short, if you don't want your parcel being publicly accessible, restrict access to it. It's your responsibility to maintain the access to the parcel. And I'm not going to. As I said previously, I'm not obligated to answer such questions because I'm not a part of it. I'm just here discussing the facts of the matter. Just because I correct people when they say it's against the TOS doesn't mean I am the person who runs the bonnie bots. It means I'm a person who saw a false allegation and corrected it. If you want an answer to that question, go ask Bonnie. Message one of the bots. There's a human on the other end. Try to be respectful. If you go and start acting all high and mighty and indignant, you might get sassed. That's just how human interaction works. That question makes no sense, but looking at the site, I only see your avatar's profile on their profile search. Your profile is public information. The only thing on the site that is tied to your avatar is stuff you have chosen to make publicly available via your profile. I also don't see any reason to believe that they're storing who wears what attachments or who visits what sim. Seems to me that would multiply the data storage by a considerable amount, and with no actual added utility. So unless you can show me that they do, I have no reason to believe that they do. Ok, but I'm only talking about real life identity because people bring up privacy laws and that's what privacy laws are about, real life identity. *ahem* That data is public information see the following image: I wouldn't doubt it if Bonnie is getting it directly from the marketplace webpage and simply logging it. I doubt Bonnie is capable of reading in-world transactions with in-world vendors, or person to person transactions. I love how you failed to provide the GDPR's definition of personal data. Did you know that laws include definitions to prevent people from making up what ever definition they want and trying to apply it to the law? Here's the GDPR's definition of personal data. An avatar is not a natural person. Unless you have gone and doxed yourself on your profile, there is no way to know that you, whoever you are in the real world, wears Leutka teeth without a Leutka head. I use that example only because I find it highly amusing that Leutka teeth is one of the top attachments according to Bonnie, but Leutka heads are buried several pages in. I've said something to this effect repeatedly... If you're going to cite laws, make sure you're actually correct about it. Better yet, consult a lawyer.