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5 hours ago, Jo Yardley said:

That is how you stop certain members of your group from sending or receiving notices, it won't allow you to send notes or chat with just some people in your group.

That's when you set those that you want to send notices to a different role in the group so that you can send them a nc or msg. that you don't want others to see. 

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10 hours ago, Mollymews said:

for me the decision is pretty straight forward

I will be taking the prepay offer which will give me til end of January 2021 for another $US72.  What new Super Premium offer might be available then I will consider, til then I am not going to worry about it much at all

 

I'm doing the same as Mollymews and going to take the prepay offer as well which will give me till  2021.

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3 hours ago, Coolnet Ordinary said:

I just want to take the opportunity to thank Linden Lab staff for listening and hearing our concerns and issues about the recent updates.  For me being part of different virtual worlds, I have seen them come and go.  About 9 years ago, a virtual world that I love closed down due to financial issues.  It came back 2 years later, however; it's still not the same.  Here on Second Life, the world continues to grow even through the hard times.   I'm happy to see that Linden Labs staff are listening to the community and taking on our inputs.  It's important that both the company and community to continue to communicate with each other for it to succeed.  There are many great ideas on how to help and improve Second Life.  I've seen a lot of helpful ideas to improve on the Second Life Premium Membership Packages.  I love the tier level idea.  Having Basic, Bronze, Silver, Gold, and Platinum packages.  Each one can have it a set price, and different types of packages it will receive.   Thank you again for hearing us 

 

I like your idea about the tier levels. I think that would work to everyone's advantage rather than just having 2 or 3 choices and not liking some or either of the perks each one gives or does not gives. Having multiple levels I think would work a great deal for many of us, especially to those of us that not only have been around for years but also that are merchants and or consumers as well. 

I've always been a premium user since I began playing years ago and have never had any issues with LL. Just this big hike after a decade is hard on some people so if they have multiple tiers to choose from would be great as well as giving them the option of how you plan of giving everyone the option of pre-paying on current pricing for a certain amount of time before the new prices come in affect. 

I've read a lot of complaints about the big hike in price on the VVO chat that the multiple choice of tier I bet what Coolnet said would satisfy a lot of those that are unhappy about the hike if they have more choices to choose from. IMO.

 

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13 hours ago, CoffeeDujour said:

I'm wondering what happens when "Super Premium" or whatever it's going to be called come out, are we about to pay to keep our membership rates static and then be faced with an upgrade option in a couple of months?

How will that all work out in the wash, are we just setting ourselves up for a dramatic step up in rates 18 months down the line.

Gawd, I hope not! I really really hope not. That would piss off a lot of dedicated users. 

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Sansar looks exactly like SL just better graphics and clarity.....sure makes you think!

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8 minutes ago, CoffeeDujour said:

Updating the premium offering peace-meal over the course of months is exactly what they are doing. It's impossible to make an informed decision, just do as we're directed and hand over more money because it seems like the better deal on the day.

Going to be more than just pitchforks if when announced to great fanfare, "Mega Premium" gives you the same end result as what you just bought for 75% of the money you just spent.

Yeah. Sansar was the original corporation friendly investor bait junk that companies have been chasing over and over. Sansar has some really cool tech, that we paid for .. and we will never see as LL do the same as Blue Mars and HiFi - spend years coasting on a hyped up fever dream that's obviously dead right from the start. SL is like some poison pill filled with weirdos, our money is about all that's fine.

But it really is worse than that.

Being involved with SL is seen as something to be ashamed of. Burning money and running a company into the floor is entirely normal and business as usual.

Ummm..I'm a dork, I didn't know about SanSar till tonight and I just looked it up and seen that it's made by LL and surprised that their graphics is better than SL....There's something wrong with this picture.....I have it up atm on my steam.

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3 minutes ago, Blush Bravin said:

I've been somewhat vocal about my views in regards to groups and how they really do not function well with the way people use them in SL now. I have mixed feelings about the Lab's decision to keep the status quo on groups with the slight increase still going forward for premium. I still believe it's just putting a bandaid on a sore that really needs lancing and a through cleaning. I hope they will take some of the proceeds from the increase to premium and use it to fix groups because they really are broken.  

I also believe that we need to learn to budget our resources and groups are a costly resource. I hope people will reconsider how they use groups, both those running the groups and those who are members of groups. This constant turn over in juggling groups just to get the latest group gift is non productive. If people are going to join and then two days later, if not 10 minutes later, drop the group so they can join another group to get the latest freebie then the purpose of the group really isn't functioning anyway. So why have a group if that's the outcome? It's wasting resources. I really hope LL will consider a subo type function for situations like this. A subo is perfect for sending notices about group gifts and there is no need to juggle groups to stay informed.

In the end, I understand why the Lab decided to hold off reducing group slots for basic accounts. I know it rubbed people the wrong way, and I understand their viewpoint specially with the increase to group slots for premiums. So cheers to Linden Lab for showing how much they really do value all of the residents.

To me, having an amount of groups isn't an issue. I just think that there's just sooooo many groups in SL it's become so overrated. Especially those ran by bots that are continuous of the same ads over n over rather than idk owners being personal to their customers or something. Either way, the most out there is that there's just so many repeated advertisement groups by the same bots that send the same messages non stop.

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6 minutes ago, Jennifer Boyle said:

Exactly.

I have been in SL over 12 years, and I still struggle with the complexity, particularly the complexity of newly-introduced features, and I am not some computer-illiterate technophobe; I am the person that my relatives and social friends seek out to solve their problems with their computers and devices. Many of the developments are wonderful. Fitmesh cloths are what I dreamed of for years. Mesh bodies are a definite improvement. Outfits make my life so much better. The stability of the servers has improved by an enormous amount. Etc.

I have often thought that, if I first tried SL today, I might well have left for good after a few days because I would have despaired of ever understanding it well enough to have fun.

LL really needs to give attention to how they can make the new user experience better by making it less challenging.

Here are a few ideas:

Since mesh avatars are the state of the art, stop offering classic avatars to new residents. That would simplify things for them.

We really need multiple levels of complexity of the viewer. LL tried that a few years ago. They mistakenly made the basic level so limited that nobody wanted to use it. They need multiple levels, but they need to think more carefully about what and how many levels they need and what abilities the levels need. Focus groups would be useful for figuring this out, and it would be dirt cheap to use them inside SL. Come to think of it, within-SL focus groups could help SL a lot with decision-making regarding how they could use available resources in ways that residents most value.

I had not thought of this until read the quoted post: Could LL promulgate standards for avatars analogous to the standards in the computer industry? For example, if I buy a mesh body, mesh head, mesh hands and feet (if they didn't come with the body). hair, clothing, etc. that are "Linden Lab Standard 2019-23A-compatible, they will all work well together. It's a challenge for me to make it all work together. It must be a nightmare for a new resident. Or, even better, can LL dictate standards for creators? We don't want to limit creativity, so they should be free to create whatever they want, but shouldn't there be a standard they can meet and advertise meeting?

I know that if you look under the Avatar tab there is a tick in there for avatars and there's mesh avatars that a newbie is able to choose from. I checked them out for one of my alts and they really don't look too bad and they are mesh...fitmesh ofc but it's mesh..it's a good start from there and gives them time to learn all about mesh, if they are willing to. But, yes, SL is more complicated now to learn than it was 12 years ago when I joined too. 

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1 minute ago, CoffeeDujour said:

I'm wondering what happens when "Super Premium" or whatever it's going to be called come out, are we about to pay to keep our membership rates static and then be faced with an upgrade option in a couple of months?

How will that all work out in the wash, are we just setting ourselves up for a dramatic step up in rates 18 months down the line.

IDK, my thought is we might get some kick ass perks who knows. Guess we all just wait and see what happens. And hope we're not getting set up for something dramatic. I don't think LL would set us up on something if they didn't suggest us members to do this. I'm sure they probably have more plans ahead. All they can do is move forward, not backwards. 

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Soooo many changes!!! AHHHH!!!  🤣🤣🤣 lol 

It's all good. Only thing that would be nice is if maybe for those at least maybe bring up the stipend amount based on what Premium level people are on. That would be a nice perk.  

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1 minute ago, LittleMe Jewell said:

Yeah, if you have already set it to change to yearly, then on June 2nd, Sunday, it will charge you $72 and you new date will be June 2, 2020.  Then anytime between June 3 & 24, you go back to the dashboard and select the prepay option. You'll then pay another $72 at that time and the renewal date will shift out to June 2, 2021.

Or you could let the June 2 only do a quarterly renewal and then sometime from June 3-24 you do a prepay of either another quarter or an entire year.

I'm thinking setting it at a year and then pre-pay another year may be a better savings that way I don't have to worry about paying 99 next year since I'll be good till 2021.

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5 minutes ago, LittleMe Jewell said:

Per a post from Grumpity earlier, you don't have to be annual, but that would give you the best locked in savings.  

In any case, basically on the day you get ready to pre-pay, check your dashboard for your premium renewal date.  Whatever that day is, add a month/quarter/year to it, depending on what type of prepay you want to do.  Also remember that the quarterly option is only available if you are already on the quarterly plan. 

I have an alt that does not come up for renewal until April 2020.  When I do the prepay on June 3rd, it will be for a year and that will then extend the alt's renewal out to April 2021.

Whereas this account won't score quite as well since my renewal is June 28th.  So on when I do the renewal on June 3rd, it simply shifts the Jun 28 2019 renewal date to Jun 28 2020.

So, if I kept my account at quarterly as it was all I would have to do is add the yearly I want? I was planning on putting it on yearly anyway. I originally had my acct on yearly then some stuff happened in rl a while back that I set it up to quarterly and been meaning to put it back to yearly which I can now. So, now, my acct is up for renewal on June 2, I set it to yearly and was thinking of doing a pre-pay as well for another year to lock in this rate before it changes so that I will be good till 2021. That makes sense, right? lol it's late hehe.

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53 minutes ago, ananoelle said:

You dont have to cash out to use your stipend to pay for premium or land. You simply sell ur L$ on the lindenx. 

Most people dont use the stipend to help pay for their renewals they spend that weekly injection as it comes in. 

Now that the price if premium has gone up i think more people will be trying hard to save up their stipend though, I being one of them. As it is I can keep 2 account on premium if im disciplined enough to follow through with my plan lol .. 

I use my stipend to help pay tier monthly.

 

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Correct, I think so too. They are doing their best to make it fair for those of us that have been here forever already giving us a chance to get in on our regular rates before the new rates kick in. But from what I understand it's for all of us that are Premium members not just the ones that are due. I happen to be due this month, I was quarterly but changed it to annually before they bill me so that it is all set. I think I'm able to pre-pay another year between the 3rd to 24th because my payment comes out on the 2nd lol. (ofc, it figures) 🙄

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On 5/30/2019 at 4:49 AM, November Velde said:

Perhaps someone here can help me understand about locking in another year at the original price? The blog stated that between June and July, a person could get one more year. My problem is that my premium is not due until December 31st. Does this mean I'm SOL for being able to do this?

Actually I think what they are saying is that between June 3 and June 24 you can pre pay another year (if you have annual) and what it does is that time will add to your current time you have now. I might be wrong but that is how I am reading it. I've been reading it over n over. Because they didn't say only those that are due, they said everyone that has Premium accounts can pre-pay another year at the current rate. After June 24 it all goes to the new rate. So, if you pre-pay between June 3-24 then you will be ok and be in the current rate but if you wait till December then you will be paying the new rate. But paying now in June it will add more time to your current time with the old (current) rates. *Hope that makes sense*

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On 5/30/2019 at 4:48 AM, Sannita Cortes said:

Sorry, I was thinking of going premium and I would pay annually because like you it is the best deal. BUT VAT only then monthly because not annual and quaterly is not for new sign ups. For me VAT applies…. So I would pay annually my membership and VAT is only monthly possible - this process  I don't understand the reason for it because would be better to pay all in once.

 

I think what they are saying is that after June 24th, they will only have Basic, Monthly and Annually. They will discontinue Quarterly unless you are Quarterly now before the changes. 

[I have completed the tutorial and have payment info on file, but I still can't upload mesh?]

Its possible that LL might be having some issues with the billing system. But, also, when you took the tutorial were you logged in? If so, you may need to relog. That's how it works for the age verification that it won't come in affect until you relog. 

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[What's happening with avies?]

Check to make sure that they don't have their caps on and that they didn't change their password. Or change the password by resetting it. Haven't heard of an issue of avies being locked out of their account unless they are griefers or been reported to where SL banned them.