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    Will The New TOS on Child Avatars Ensnare Short Adults?

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    4 hours ago, BilliJo Aldrin said:

    I've not seen a clarification if under 18 avatars are allowed on A rated sims or not, obviously child avatars are banned, but no mention of say 17 year olds.

    I'm short, sometimes I wear a young hair style, young looking clothes, sneakers, will all these combined cause someone to say, "oh no a child avi on adult land" when I tp home.. "AR them"?

    What I read in this part is that you are aware you are playing an edge-case.

    You know you look young since you pointed out the young hair, young clothes, and short stature.  It also reads like you may be admitting to playing a 17 year old.

    As far as the TOS reads, if you're not 18, you are a child and shouldn't be in A land or found without your modesty layer.  I don't think that needs clarified.

    I would not AR you for your looks anywhere.  I won't be ARing anyone for being short or playing an anime character or K-pop fan or whatever.

    You do, however, recognize your choice of look is right on the edge of acceptable.  The risk of doing adult activities after admitting you chose a very young look is yours to take.  I think most reasonable people would not AR you.

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    You are in a forest in Second Life. Would you rather run into a someone in a man avatar or a bear avatar?

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    I didn't realize that this topic referred to anything.  I wish I hadn't responded to it at all now.

    I go to the SL woods to be alone.  If a green dot appears on the mini-map, I am not going check and see if it's human or beast.  I'll just leave.

    Wrong thread, but - Peeve - pop culture references that I didn't know about can feel like an inside joke I wasn't included in.

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    So what changed in the Terms of Service?

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    I am hoping, for the sake of everyone's expensive inventories, that the new TOS just requires BOM modesty coverage. That way people can change the colors or styles.  BOM can only be removed by the wearer (unlike mesh clothing.)  If a child avatar is seen in the wild, no one can derender clothes making them naked.  "Cannot be removed" is taken care of.

    LL does need to clarify minimum coverage of those panels. Soon.

    If a child avatar is out in the wild and their clothing is derendered to make them naked, it was because they broke the TOS and hadn't put on the BOM layer coverage.

    The responsibility is still on the adult playing the child, but with BOM they can change the modesty layer color or style. Most importantly, they also get to continue using everything they bought and collected over the years.

    Unless...

    Are their child avatar bodies that don't allow BOM layers?

    All the extra discussion on what is "sexualized" or what we each think a "child" or "adult" look like is pointless. The only ones whose opinions matter are the ones looking at the ARs.  They can't be defined.  As soon as someone tries to define it, someone else will find a way around it.

    If you think someone is breaking TOS, AR them and let it go.

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    So what changed in the Terms of Service?

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    Maybe for temporary use, LL could release new senra skins for their mesh bodies that comply with the TOS. Then release 2 more body sizes to represent toddler and child type bodies with skins that have undies.  The adult senra bodies they have now can be used for 13-17.  They just need a skin with modesty coverage. They gave every other creater a couple months to make all new stuff, so they should be able to make stuff that fast, as well.  Right?

    If child avatars use their current heads, they will still look like themselves until "real creators"  get a chance to catch up to the surprise change to the TOS.

    (/me ducks and runs watching the skies for a lightning bolt knowing that some Linden or Mole created that Senra head and released it as acceptable.)

    It won't replace all the clothes people bought for their current child bodies, but it would be temporary and fulfill the requirements of the new TOS long enough for the real creators to catch up with new skins so you can get back to your wardrobe as soon as possible.

    If LL makes a modesty skin for a Senra can it be put on other bodies?  That might help with the transition, too.

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    How Does Your SL Look Today?

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    49 minutes ago, Bagnu said:

    Cinny and I at a scientific discussion group today. I am a little disappointed at how much people try to prove they are scientifically literate to each other. No one attends a discussion group about science if they don't have a solid background. It was about "what defines life".  As in a what defines a living organism. That is still an open question.

    Cinny looked hot as hell though!!!

    Cinny and me at Science Discussion.png

    Nice pic!  However, there is no gatekeeping science.  Everyone can go and learn any time they want. No prerequisites needed. I do find the arrogance of how people state their beliefs to be a bit grating, though.  Questions like these are not settled science.  Also, I can see why the host would be wary of a discussion on consciousness.  I would be, too.

    Yay SL and discussions!

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    A Discussion: Being "Kind" when Responding in Second Life (and Forums)

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    1 minute ago, Love Zhaoying said:

    Great post! I've had someone ask me the quoted part directly, after which I could never trust them again. So, I like the fact you keep it internal.

    Asking me "WTF is wrong with you?" is a deal-breaker for me personally, not forgivable. Without a sincere apology, I suppose.

    Those questions are initial responses in the moment in my own head.  I have a very active internal dialog.  The worst thing I could do is put them in writing.  I can't really police my thoughts.  I can try to delay the instant reaction until I have had time to think about whatever set me off.

    On the very rare occasion that I jump in to a pile-on, I say that I am doing it and then state why.  I don't want to be a part of one of those without a good reason and certainly never to get back at someone or "put them in their place."  At the end of the day, I want to feel good about what I have written and how I treated others.  I hope I added something positive, gave someone a smile, or at the very least, gave them an alternative way to see something.

    Don't respond to the negative is the best advice.  The next is - Don't feel like you have to defend yourself or your views.  State them and move on.

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    Oh my Gawd! - Totally unOfficial Pet Peeve Thread.

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    Peeve: being naturally clumsy can be expensive.  I ran into a table in my bedroom this morning sending my TV toppling forward smashing the screen into the  corner of the table. Yup, huge starburst crack and broken TV. *cries* 

    I like having a TV, so down the mountain I drove in the rain to get a replacement. 

    The new TV is "smarter" than the old TV, but apparently I am not. Scan this code, sign into all your streaming services, give us access to your bank, that is not the right code, scan this little square, look in your email for another code, no not that email, this other one we know you have and never told us about, now do the hokey pokey, that wasn't your right foot and you fell over.  Start the dance again. 

    Dang it.

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    So what changed in the Terms of Service?

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    26 minutes ago, BilliJo Aldrin said:

    I just checked my height again, I'm 5.41, which converts to 5 ft 2 and a half inches.

    And I often dress like this, should I be worried?

    I never engage in any *****, but is someone gonna try and  report me based on how I look.

    *Look at this Avatar I saw loitering in Zindra*

     

    bjdressed02.png

    Only because you asked:

    Your face looks adult.  Your body looks like you put bewbs on a 12 year old. 

    I would not report you, but I wouldn't interact with you. If you were naked, I would leave to protect myself.

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    A Discussion: Being "Kind" when Responding in Second Life (and Forums)

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    Posted · Edited by Cinnamon Mistwood
    Grammar

    I'll admit that I got bored on page 3 and skipped to the end to comment.  Here is how I respond to difficult (for me) situations.  It's a whole internal process and dialog.

    Someone says something that produces an emotional response

    W(hat)TF is wrong with that person?

    *breath*

    What response were they expecting?

    *hmmf*

    Is this bait or manipulation?

    *Eyebrow lift*

    W(here)TF did this even come from?(yes, again. I say this a lot)

    *type out a response, read it back, think better, backspace delete it*

    Decision time. Do I respond to the poster? Do I respond the the person I feel they're attacking unfairly? Do I take a moment to think about why people say such hateful things in such negative ways?

    Do I not respond at all?  

    Was the attack/hateful words fair?

    *get a nice hot cup of coffee*

    How can I say what I want to say to make sure a majority of people will understand what I want to get across?

    Sometimes I close the thread at this point.  This is an especially important step if my emotions are still running high.

    Sometimes I respond. It's not always perfect, but I try to put thought into a response instead of reacting instantly. Only I am responsible for what I type out and click submit on to send out publicly. 

    People say mean things all the time, but no one makes me respond or even defend myself. If I choose to, I will. That power is mine and I do my best not to fall into blaming others for how I feel and what I say.

    Someone might spark an emotional response, but how I react is mine to own and mine to deal with.

    I've been posting here for 14 years.  I think my post count is in the 3000s. Pretty low considering my time here. I am not a super prolific poster.  That may be because of my choice to not respond more often than giving in and attacking back.

     

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    So what changed in the Terms of Service?

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    2 minutes ago, SamathaStarr said:

    It's getting to be nothing but Nazi Crap, First avatars are made to be average height of 7 foot tall, then you are told if you are under that Height or of Normal Real Life Height, You can be banned for Being too child like and dressing acting adult,

    I personally Know Adult film stars and models that are Only 4'10" tall, I know Tons more people in everyday work that are between 18 and 80 years of age . Mothers. Fathers. Grandmothers and Grandfathers that are not even 5 foot tall, and yet we on SL are being Judged by out Height and Shapes.

    I personally dated a 22 year old woman when I was 21 , And she was barely 5'1" tall, and Was more flat chested than I was.

    And yet, SL and LL is defining us by our size and shape,

     

    This is just more communist Nazi Crap.

    I'm only 5 foot 3 inches tall myself . 

    And if I am in a club full of 7 Foot tall avatars I will look like a child next to them, And I'm being told I have to change My Avatar I worked on for months to get right, Spent Tons of Real Life money to get clothing Bodies, Hair and everything I needed to put together look that I like and is close to my RL size.

    Total BS, Bigotry and Bias based on a community of Ignorance and Bigotry. 

    Just another Sad, Sickening, Disgusting example of the small mindedness of The so called Modern Society .

    I refuse to be Dictated to,

    I am a Non Conformist , 

    And I will not change who I am for your Bigoted Standards.

    Height by itself isn't a determining factor.  So, go on with your bad self and enjoy your SL.

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    So what changed in the Terms of Service?

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    I need a Cliff Notes summary of the last 70 pages, please.

    1. No child avatars in A regions

    2. Modesty layers must not be removable and should cover the crotch and female nipples

    3. Compliancy is the responsibility of the adult using the child avatar.

    4. There is no set definition of what constitutes an adult.  Edge-cases decided by individual region owners or AR and let Governance decide.

    What else happened in the last 70 pages?

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    So what changed in the Terms of Service?

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    Perhaps someone wants to start a "How old does my avatar look?" post.  That would be fun to argue in.  Maybe a thread havinging us take our daily avatars and aging them up or down to compare?  

    This one is supposed to be about the change in the TOS. Age should be decided by the parcel owners for all these edge-cases and what-abouts.

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    So what changed in the Terms of Service?

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    I have not read all 34 pages.

    I am glad there are new rules and guidelines.  Child avatars in adult regions never should have been allowed to begin with.

    It is right for parcel owners to be the ones to decide whether someone looks 17 or 18 or what fashions are allowed in their club or store.  If they want an adult themed club, they get to decide what adult looks like on the land they pay for.

    If someone wants a club for the cute Lolita or anime look, they can buy a parcel and give only people with that aesthetic who will see those fashions as adult a place to be.  

    I can't take seriously those who demand entrance to parcels others own to use however they want just because they say they are playing an 18 year old.  The rules are not anyone's bill of rights to to anything they want anywhere they want because something they want to do isn't against the TOS in their opinion. 

     

    No children on A land. Good.

    Communities made where certain fashions are accepted as adult. Good.

    The power of the parcel owner to decide how they ascertain age. Good.

    I'm not sure how I feel about the modesty layer. I don't think it helps anything and makes a lot of content unusable.   So, not good.

     

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    How Does Your SL Look Today?

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    5 minutes ago, Luna Bliss said:

    Cinnamon, now be honest, do you wish those 2 cubes were closer together or further apart?  And can you cope with the fact that one has color while the other has NOTHING!

    What bothers me is that the pic was taken at an angle, so it's not symmetrical.  Do I win a prize? :D

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