Brynn Ametza

Graphic, The sim in which I am employed has a responsible staff member on sit at all times. 24/7/365. Don'y even try to say that it can't happen

Graphic, I beg to differ. Rules and laws..right amd wrong are a reasonably stable thing. What I'm saying, is that if parents took the time and energy to properly educate their children, this would be a moot point. However, far too many prefer to shuffle the kids off to the computer while they watch a mopvie etc. Raise and mentor your children properly, only then will they be equipped to face the RL and cyber worlds. Adults, stop stalking kids, seek help. It really doesn't have to be this hard people..honest

Just saving a bit of time here. Kayosan, 13 year olds are NOT coming to the main grid. They are only allowed in sponsored ares. That said, if I had a child, they would have been educated in how to deal with the world as it is. The parent is ultimately responsible for their childrens behavior. Graphic. If I had children, I would take responsibility to educate then on the dangers and risks of this world. Those who don't act in such a manner are completely derelict in their responsibilities.

Graphic Read the OP. Teens will be allowed in general areas only. Therefore, if you do not engage in behaviors inappropriate fir that class..no harm. If you do not respond to eevbry cute avi's profile lic after an IM of hey sexy..let's do the pervies in IM..no issue

Moon, I completely agree as I have stated above. The teens will only be allowed to be "physically" present on general sims. If we, as adults, conduct ourselves properly in these settings, then there will be no issue. For those adults who engage in random, anonymous, sigth unseen smexies with any cute avi that just happens to IM hem and flirt a bit? Well, I guess..nevermind..you know where that is ghoing. To sim owners, it is no large task to allow your managers to log into a tip jar and act as manager/host/hostess. In that way you are actually paying nothing and getting 24/7 monitoring of your sim. Once again, it is afterall, your life, your reputation and your investment. If you choose to be irresponsible and lazy about it..to spend more time thinking about the ways it could hurt you than how to avoid it..shame on you. Teens are here now, a few more will be here soon. Whether or not we like it or not, it is a fact. I personally welcome those forced from their homeland so long as they abide by the rules in place. I challenge all responsible adults to do the same.

Aww, poor you. Not able to do something that you shouldn't have been doing there in the first place? I'm not allowede to have smexies with my boyfriend behind the restaurant anymore either...guess what? I nenver was

Bravo!! It's really not rocket science people. Use the imnd that you were given and enjoy!

On our sim, we have managers, who have ban/eject rights yet can not sell the sim. I'm sorry, but being too lazy or ill informed to do what';s right to protect your investment is a very poor arguement

MoonFairy, I would allow a teen to roam SL under the proposed guidelines were it not for adults seeking to define what constitutes general/PG to suit their ends. As was stated in a post far above I go to a sim that is rated PG to keep out the nudies. They accept profanity, etc and on and on. This, is by definition a mature sim who's owners are too lazy and or too cheap to properly monitor and moderate their own sim. The owners and managers and staff of said club are resp;onsible for maintaining the stated rules and standards. I can, if I choose, TP into a general sim completely naked and if no one is around, stay there for hours. Owners and staff MUST accept some responsibility for their sim. Afterall, it is they who reap any reward, so it is they who must work to make it happen.

Hi Sama, In response to your camming issue, in most jurisdictions, someone commiting a crime can't sub sequently report a crime witnessed while in the act and are very reluctant to do so. Imagine the testimony?? "I climbed the trellis, attached my extendable binoculars to a stick and looked in the window, to find, in my horror, a feral cat and a were wolf having smexies with an android shemale"

Hi again everyone! We've discussed/argued a lot of points here. Also, many of these points have been argued ad infinitum in other posts and blogs over the last few months. In that time and prior, a few facts have come to light, facts which I challenge anyone to dispute and that we all should have and will have to live with. Fact - Teens have and always will find ways to circumvent the rules. There have been teens on the main grid for as long as I have been here and certainly before that. Those of you who assumed that the fact that SL was supposedly an "All Adult" playground protected you in some legal sense from prosectution are far more naive and mis-informed than I find acceptable. Fact - Adults, in many cases, will seek to bend, fold, mutilate and stretch the rules. I've dealt with this in my SL frequently. "Well, this is a mature sim so I can be naked if I choose to be." I've heard such drivel nearly dailly and dealt with it as needed. Honestly people, you habe to understand that just because you are in a suppoed mature/adult environment, that there MAY be those who fall into the Fact 1 category. Anyone who ventures into a bar in a college town or almost any other has to make the reasonable assumption that there might be some sexy thing with a fake ID. Trust me, telling the judge that you met her at "Club XYZ, will not excuse your offense. Fact - A few teens are coming to the main grid. Guess what? These are the ones who have chosen to play by the rules for the most part. Yes, I'm sure not all, but for the most part, they didn't lie about their age to access the main grid. Some have ripped content, so have adults. That is and always will be a fact of life. Fact - As humans, we are responsible for our own actions. This applies to everyone, whether you are 13 or 73. If a 13 year old malisciously and with forethought kills someone, they will face dire consequences. Adults that don't make a reasonable attempt to assure that their sexual prtner is old enough to consent will face the same. Fact - Just because you are choosing to interact with others in a pixelized realm makes you no less part of being human. You are bound by law to conduct yourself in a manner which would be defensible in court. There are various websites which are specifically against the law in my particular area. If I choose to visit them, I am subject to severe penalty under law. The same applies here. Fact - I'm sure that a majority of teens are just as upset and uncertain of the effects of this merger as we adults are. I say to them, be honest at all times. Be proud that you are a teen who chooses to visit this amazing place. Understand that you will run inot adults who feel that you are infringing on their territory, and accept that you have been forced to be here. Fact - It's a huge world! I feel confident that there is more than enough room for us all to coexist, possibly learn from each other and move forward.

Ahh Kayosan. How nice of you to take a snippet of a converstaion, mis-read it and make asasumptions. What I said was that I don't have cyber in IM only, meaning that my partner is always in the same location as me. I also, in my time in SL owned adult rated sims, managed mature and adult clubs and been very involved in group building etc. I regularly support the designers of adult furniture etc, (looks at Linden balance and sighs) I did peek at your profile, very nicely done and of course completely in line with standards. Just as an informational point, AR = Abuse Report. That would be when you notice something that falls outside proper conduct or are griefed, you can report it to the Lab and hopefully let them take care of it.

Kayosan As I've stated a couple of times above, I never..EVER have sex solely in IM. It somehow seems odd to even consider in such a grapically rich environment such as SL. I also never engage in behavior that would be innappropriate in any setting on a PG sim. I am aware of the differences in laws between the countries and understand that. Again, if one uses a modicum of common sense and follows the TOS as written then you shouldn't run a risk of som,ething occurring. I also am aware of the TOS/CS violating "Adult" profiles etc that are on the grid. I don't like them, but ti's not something that I can combat unless I choose to spend the majority of my SL time AR'ing everyone showing a nude pic or having innappropriate content in their profile. Also, I am aware that if you engage in sex while knowing that a minor is watching, you are liable. However, so long as you are on a mature sim, inside or on an adult sim, then you can't be, since a minor will not be allowed access.

Per the OP, teens will be allowed to access ONLY general/PG sims.On the registration page, there is a place to enter your birth date. You also must check off that you have read and understand the TOS. Anyone who enters a birthdate making them 16 - 17 will by default only be allowed access to PG/general sims. Do I think it's perfect? No. Do I believe for even thirty seconds that there won't be some teens who fudge their birth date by a few months? That's too funny to consider. Fact is, there are and always have been teens doing the exact same thing to access the main grid. I've met them, found out and immediately reported their status to LL. A reasonable guess is that nearly everyone who has spent much time in SL has also interacted with a teen. There will always be those who seek to circumvent the rules, be it a teen who wishes to access the mature sims or the "ageplayers" who push every edge that they can to do as they wish. All we. as residents can do is do as we have always done. Be vigilant, report as necesary and move on. While, as I've stated previously, I am not in favor of this merger, there is nothing that I can do but accept it for what it is. It is a change, nothing more and nothing less. I expect it to affect my SL experience in no way at all other than the fact that there MAY be a few more teens breaking the rules and forcing me to spend a valuable minute of my time reporting them to the lab. Brynn

Ryuu, I agree 100% with you. However, I reserve those activities for mature/adult areas, with people I can actually see. PG/general sims (you know, where the teens will be) are defined as areas without mature/adult activity for those that choose to live their SL in that fashion, or simply want a respite from it. Believe me, if I venture to one of my favorite general sims and get approached for some casual pixel-bumping..the person will NOT enjoy my response. It will be PG in nature, however, the great thing about language is I can and have made people feel about an inch tall without the first vulgar word. Brynn

My point is, that we still do have that. On the myriad of mature and adult sims available as well as our own homes if we are fortunate enough to have them. There is nothing in this shift that changes the "expected bahaviors" found in a certain sim. The only thing that does change is that if you are the type that will accept random friendings from people you haven't even seen or engage in mature or adult behaviors in IM with people whome you are not at least moderately aquainted with, you may wish to re-think those particular actions. Seriously, with the way the system currently is, with the exception of a profile tag and a (T) after a teens name, I see very little to change. Group access COULD be an issue, although a teen will not be able to search for mature groups, so little hazard there. As for invites from members, MOST groups I'm associated with have a finite group who may invite new members. They of course may have to excercise a bit more diligence, though that remains to be seen. Also Michael, I am not singling you out. Just simply adding to the discussion and trying to alleviate some fears as well as offer some alternatives. Brynn

It has nothing to do with raunchy, sexual behavior. general/PG means just that. From my understanding, there are to be no mature behaviors. These include profanity, risque jokes or anything of that sort. Basically, when I am on a general sim, my guideline is.."Could I say/do that in church or in front of my highly religious and prusish grandmother?" I dress appropriately and carry myself in that fashion. As for IM's, I have never made it a practice to entertain long conversations with those I can't see. Even among my friends, we'll go to their house, my house or a beach or club for any real conversation. Maybe that's where my problem is. I very much treat SL as much like RL as is prudent and warranted. In RL, I don't make it a habit of finding names in a phone book, doing a Google search to learn about them and then call them on the phone and say :HI, let's be friends!!". I also really don't care to meet such people. Brynn

Maybe it's just me, but a few things just don't add up here. Believe me, I am far from a proponent of the merger and also far from a prude. First, it is no small task to single out an avi in a club. I do it on a nitely basis in a place that can easily have 25-30 guests and sometimes up to 70. Second, in a highly graphic environment like SL, why in the world would I engage in RP in IM only? That seems to only detract from the experience. Next, I never have and never will accept a "friends" request from someone I haven't "seen". I rarely even engage in much conversation with someone that I can't see. They don't hand out points for friends count and my list is quite extensive enough as it is. I agree that there does need to be an identifier both in the profile and as a part of the residents name but that is a fairly easy thing to accomplish. How hard can it be to turn "Sarah Resident into Sarah Resident(T)? As far as knowing location of whom you're speaking to..the mini map shows sin edges which lets you know whether the avi is in he same or a different sim. I see a lot of people cunfuring up every possible scenario where bad things can happen and yes, they do exist. However, if we as adults simply cunduct ourselves as such, follow the rules and guidelines already in place and use a small bit of common sense, I highly doubt that any of us will find ourselves in court or even in a possition where that would be possible. Brynn

While I do aggree with you in essence, the still remains that I do NOT engage in mature/adult behaviors on general rated sims. I never have nor do I plan to start. Personally, I feel that anyone who does is showing great disrespect to the sim owner and is in fact in breach of TOS/Community Standards.

Hi again all. I guess what's confusing me here is all the uproar over someone "accidentally" hooking up with a teen once they are allowed on the main grid. I'm sure that som eone will enlighten me if my thinking on this is considered wrong in som,e way. When I go to/end up in a PG/General sim, I know that not only the rating, but the TOS and community Standards Require me to dress and behave in a certain way. Adult activity is not allowed on such sims in any fashion, that is their very purpose for existence. They are for residents who for whatever reason, wish to enjoy SL in a setting free from adult and mature behaviors. For me to disrespect that not only flies in the face of the rules but shows no regard for the sim owner and residents who are there to enjoy the sim as it was intended. Perhaps I'm an odd person..maybe I'm even a prude, but the idea of trying to hook-up on a general sim has never occurred to me in my two years of being here. Even if by some chance, I were approached by someone, I certainly wouldn't act out anything with them on that sim for the above mentined reasons, not to mention the complete lack of facilities for said encounter. I have a lovely home which is on mature land to use or would gladly visit them at their home on mature/adult land. Noiw, someone explain to me exactly what risks I face from this merger in it's current form? Brynn

Hi everyone, I was reading a few of the comments and decided to put in my two cents. It may run to a nickle but what the heck, A bit of background on me. I do work in the adult industry as a dancer/manager of a club and do have mention of the club in my profile, however, the content is no worse than could be found in alnost any newspaper in the US. First, regarding interaction with teens while shopping, visiting a park etc. I don't make it a habit of conversing with other shoppers in the first place and any inappropriate comments quickly trigger the mute response. I know that not everyone follows the same rules, but those who think that teens aren't exposed to behavior far worse than that found legally on any general sim apparently hasn't spent a lot of time outside lately. Basically, it goes to taking some responsibility for your actions and being aware. Teens generally speak differently than adults, both in phrasing and content, so just pay attention and when there is any doubt..ask. I also log ALL conversations, in the event that accusations are made, I at least do have some defense in that regard. Next, concerning a teen camming into my property and seeing something that they shouldn't. I know of no jurisdiction where a homeowner would be held criminally liable if a teen were caught peeping in their bedroom window at night. One is not held responsible if one is acting with the reasonable assumption of privacy. My home is set up with the fun stuff upstairs and the windows are laid out so that in order to see anything, you must be looking downward into the house from outside. I highly doubt that any authority would even remotely consider me derelict in my attempts to screen innappropriate activity from prying eyes. I do agree with the post concerning purchases as well as the one making the teen profile easily distinguishable fom an adult. These should be fairly simple additions. Once again however, I doubt that a shop-keeper would be held liable if someone specifically NOT allowed even on their property would up with one of their items. I may be wrong there, but it goes to the principle of reasonable measures. Finally, I am not nor have I ever been a proponent of a TG/MG merger and remain in opposition. However, the decision has been made and we all will have to deal with it as best we can. I personally think that this will end up being much wringing of hands for no good reason..we shall see. Brynn

Hi Noble, I agree with Irene. As posted, I suppose it MIGHT be possib'e to get permission from LL to do it. They certainly would take all inventory from the account to avoid any permissions conflict and the process would take some time to get done. Also, I'm pretty sure that they would require a fee to do this, probably in line with their account recovery which costs 9.95 USD. All in all, by the time you gained permission and it got done, the potential buyer would be out the 9.95, plus your price which would easily dress an avi reasonably well. They could in the same amount of time, create a new alt, spend the cash on clothes and have a 2-3 month old alt. Just my observations Brynn

Basically, LL will use the existing text and that leading up to and following to decide whether or not a TOS/CS violation occured. The quidelines for such things are rpetty well documented in the TOS/CS for you to read and understand before you engage in activities in SL.A good general rule to follow is find the line in the virtual sand, step backwards from it in two giant steps and proceed. If you leave even the slightest hint that whatever activity you engage in violates the TOS/CS you will most likely be found at fault. Your only like avenue of appeal would be to prove through chat logs that the alleged offense did not in fact violate policy. I hope this helps Brynn

It sounds to me like there may be a different bald base in the outfit folder than the one you are used to. The bald base is what SL uses to define the eyebrow shape etc. Try that first. Brynn