I call llSay(0,"stem,"+(string)(llList2String(llGetPrimitiveParams([PRIM_POSITION]),0))); in both an attachment's child prim on me, and a free-floating box pretty much next to it (minimized in size and phantom'ed) My attachment: (located on spine, and placed on the upper back: <61.085810, 60.700470, 32.626830> The box <61.045460, 60.567360, 33.088830> From http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/LlGetPrimitiveParams position is always in region coordinates, even if the prim is a child or the root prim of an attachment. Which means they should be very very close, but the child prim is reporting my coordinates, not region. Did this get stealth changed in and the wiki is now wrong?