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    Venus Petrov wrote:

     

    Jaen Albatros wrote:

    Hey, has Scylla posted yet? Mags Indigo too....and Mariah..quite a few to materialise yet, methinks.

    Welcome Jaen!  Both Scylla and Mags have posted.

     

     

    Thank you Venus! It's good to be here....it feels so new! :smileyvery-happy:

     

    Not liking that the threads aren't on the first page of the dashboard though. :smileysad: Also, every time I go to a thread, it goes to the first page, instead of the last one like it did before...any idea how to correct that? I've read the help thing, but not found everything I'm looking for yet.

  2. Just testing my first post on these new forums. Great post, thanks Suella!

    Thing is, it kinda feels like I'm stumbling around in the dark, haven't a clue what I'm doing as per usual, as I just previewed this post and the pic I uploaded from my computer is totally the wrong dimensions, *sigh*.

    I have Gimp, but not had it long, don't really know how to use it, so don't know how to adjust the image in it to get it the right size. Um....Suella? *smiles winsomely*

     

    *waves to Keli and Quinn*

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    Myra Wildmist wrote:

     

    Sorry, I know you're trying to let this thread die, but I have some technical questions. What exactly does "Administrative Hold" mean? Does this essentially mean that Keli's case is still under review? Do people on Administrative Hold eventually get their status changed?

    It's been two weeks, now, since Keli was put into what seems to be a limbo state. That seems like a long time, but maybe it isn't. Does anyone have any idea what might be going on behind the scenes?

    From what I'm reading, Keli hasn't received an official explanation from SL (Maybe I'm wrong about that.), though we're all pretty sure it's because of her alt. Also, she doesn't seem to have a way to appeal their decision. I've known people who have been banned from MMOs and in all cases they at least got an email explaining what happened. In some cases, they were able to appeal the ban and their accounts were reinstated within a few days.

    Is there some reason the same type of process doesn't exist in Second Life? Or does it? And why is it taking so long?

    Thanks, and sorry for bumping the thread, but I'm still concerned about my friend.

    No problem Myra, it isn't actually 'my' thread to let die anyway, it's er.....LiveReport's..

    I too am not sure what Administrative Hold means either, but i would think it does mean it is under review, but actually, i have no experience of these things and i don't personally know anyone who has been banned, so am unable to be of much help.

    Saying that, as you pointed out, Keli hasn't received an official explanation, so i guess even the 'Administrative Hold' thing is based mostly on assumption and the fact that it doesn't say 'disabled' on her forum profile, though it doesn't come up in search inworld, apparently.

    If any forumites have more knowledge, (which i know they do), then i'm sure someone will jump in with the relevant information!

    No need to apologise Myra, of course you are concerned; i am happy to respond, no worries. I too hope she is back soon.

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    Kyyrii Askari wrote:

     

    Jaen Albatros wrote:

     

    Jessika.Rang wrote:

     

    Jaen Albatros wrote:

     

    Contrary to what some people have said, there was nothing in it that said we thought she hadn't done anything wrong.

    This is, like a triple negative sentance... what the heck do you mean?   Are you saying you knew she was being stupid and flippant and you didn't/don't care?  Are you saying she was wrong and you knew it and didn't warn her?  Are you saying she was being stupid, flippant and wrong and you just want her back anyway?

    I miss Keli too, her posts were/are funny and entertaining, I am just trying to sort out what you mean by the above double speak (maybe triple speak)

    Nope, i'm not saying any of those things. It's simply a denial of what people have said was in the pulled thread, ie; one poster said the thread was full of posts saying she (Keli) hadn't done anything wrong. I am refuting that statement...it was not full of posts saying she hadn't done anything wrong.

    You know, it's great that you're defending your point and all, but can we let this thread either draw new supporters or die down?  We got it.  The user's on administrative hold, and from what I'm reading, it's happened twice in two months.  She should know by now, stop breaking rules, wash behind your ears, all that.  There are reasons for these rules, I would imagine.

    Regards.

    You obviously haven't noticed, but i have stated more than once i would like this thread to die down and i am refraining from posting any more about it....but others keep on posting things and i am simply replying to them, coz i'm well mannered like that.

     

    ETA: The 'twice in two months' did not refer to Keli both times...the poster meant that Keli was the 2nd person who had disappeared with no warning, etc.'

     

    Message was edited by: Jaen Albatros to add an ETA.

     

    
    

    You obviously haven't noticed, but i have stated more than once i would like this thread to die down and i am refraining from posting any more about it....but others keep on posting things and i am simply replying to them, coz i'm well mannered like that


    PS: Actually, scrub this last bit....this isn't even my thread...the one i started was pulled!! So what are you on about?

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    Kwant Capalini wrote:

     

    When you yawn like that I can see the hand that operates you

     

    now that is cool

    When i replied to this, i wasn't actually sure what you meant, but after reading Dillon's post, here..

    http://blogs.secondlife.com/message/595243#595243

    I asked her what a sockpuppet was and now I too ask....yeah what the heck do you mean, if you are indeed suggesting that i am a sockpuppet?? coz i haven't a damn clue!

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    Jessika.Rang wrote:

     

    Jaen Albatros wrote:

     

    Contrary to what some people have said, there was nothing in it that said we thought she hadn't done anything wrong.

    This is, like a triple negative sentance... what the heck do you mean?   Are you saying you knew she was being stupid and flippant and you didn't/don't care?  Are you saying she was wrong and you knew it and didn't warn her?  Are you saying she was being stupid, flippant and wrong and you just want her back anyway?

    I miss Keli too, her posts were/are funny and entertaining, I am just trying to sort out what you mean by the above double speak (maybe triple speak)

    Nope, i'm not saying any of those things. It's simply a denial of what people have said was in the pulled thread, ie; one poster said the thread was full of posts saying she (Keli) hadn't done anything wrong. I am refuting that statement...it was not full of posts saying she hadn't done anything wrong.

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    Kyyrii Askari wrote:

     

    Well, I've been seeing this discussion bumped around a lot, and I have to say one thing.  You can flame me for it, but I think it's a pretty well-put-together argument, and I hope this will be seen as reasonable.  If not, well, love me or hate me I guess .

     

    Before you read this, if you don't like walls of text, here's the full summary in just a few sentences: 

    Let keli take her slap on  the wrist for this.  She messed up and broke a rule.  It happens. Hopefully her good  reputation and unlikeliness to have broken any rules prior to this incident will prove to be helpful in LL's final decision.  In the meantime, chill, be patient.  I'm sure you'll all see your friend in-world soon enough.

    Full post

    Why post this on a forum which is always talked about as never being monitored?  The only thing being accomplished from this is getting attention.  However, this doesn't seem to help either, as I doubt LL cares for in-game reputation, or any of the sort.

    Yes, right now, LL is most likely investigating Keli.  Sure, you can call LL evil, but they're following through on their own rules.  And why should she be given the royal treatment?  LL has a lot of things to worry about, I could imagine.  From ARs, other investigations, and maintaining SL itself, well, I'm not surprised it's taking a while.

    Why should LL take priority in this?  So far I've seen, "we love you keli!  Free her!  Free her!"  Well, that's fine and all, but what about other users?  I'm sure there are a great deal of users being investigated or who have been investigated and they would be/are going through a similar process.  Why not just make a giant list of names to try and speed things up a little for them too?  Doesn't work.

    Keli broke a rule, and changed her display name to that of a linden.  It doesn't matter if you write in a group tag or show any indication that you are not a linden, it gets people confused and some people actually will think you are a Linden.  Surprise, surprise?  Not really.

    It's just common sense.  Starting a web-petition to try and get LL to take priority for one user who broke the rules is arrogant and pointless.  Make movements, in-game marches, news articles, the whole deal, but LL will be dealing with things their way.  And rightfully so, considering they made SL.

    Again, I haven't read much on this subject, so it's possible I'm entirely wrong in my statement and don't even understand what's going on, but that's what I remember reading from a week or two back, and I truly don't mean to offend.  I just find it annoying that people take this so seriously.  It's a game.  You broke a rule.  It happens.  I'm sure we've all been there, whether it be on here or another game.  Or forums.  Not that big of a deal.  Please stop making it such a touchy, dramatic show.  It's not warrented.

    Yep, you're wrong. There was no petition, just a plea for leniency based on the fact there was no maliciousness intended.

    The thread that was pulled did start off with the title 'Free Keli Kyrie from false charges' but i changed it to 'Free Keli Kyrie please' and tried to simply make it into a show of support for Keli to show her that her friends miss her. Contrary to what some people have said, there was nothing in it that said we thought she hadn't done anything wrong.

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    Casey Pelous wrote:

     

    I haven't read much of anything here as "trying to undermine LL's authority."   Nor really much, "She didn't do anything wrong!"   either.

    More like .........

    "There was this cool, creative person.   Such a bright light.   And, sheesh, she really screwed up.   For creative reasons, not for sinister reasons, but still ......    I know she screwed up, but dang .......I still miss her."

    I remember when I was just little, my dad wrote a letter to the court for a friend of his who had stolen some money from the company he worked for.   The guy was guilty as could be.   But in other matters, that same guy had conducted himself honorably and had made some contributions to the community.   I guess that letter really made an impression on me, 'cause many years later I still remember it.  I think it made a difference at his sentencing, too.

    Even though I've never met her, I feel the same about Keli.   Yeah, she screwed up, went overboard ....or as I used to say about my oldest when he was a teen, "stuck that hairy toe over the line one too many times."  (Sorry, Keli!   Don't actually know about the sartorial state of your toes!)  But on balance, she was - and I still hope "will be" - a contribution to our community.   She is JUST the sort of person who adds life and fun to our little imaginary world.

    I hope "the court" can take those mitigating circumstances into consideration.

     

    mitigating circumstances n. in criminal law, conditions or happenings which do not excuse or justify criminal conduct, but are considered out of mercy or fairness in deciding the degree of the offense the prosecutor charges or influence reduction of the penalty upon conviction.

    Nice post, nice to see someone with an open mind.

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    Drake1 Nightfire wrote:

     

    IMHO LL will see this whole thread as mocking their authority and Keli K will never be let out of the gulag.

    Sorry Keli.

    With the teen merge going on , LL will not tolerate any sort of undermining of their authority. All this does is show the new people that we don't care what LL thinks and we will do as we please. Personally I would let this one die.

    We is a tryin' but they jus keep right on postin'.....

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    Storm.Clarence wrote:

     

    Jaen Albatros wrote:

    Yes, i know they can, that's why i said 'it would be so appreciated', not 'please don't post!'.

    As for whether negative opinions should be stifled, it's not a case of stifling, it's a case of tactfully refraining to comment, but i suppose the majority of people who just like to post negative comments and argue just for the sake of it wouldn't know tact if it jumped up and hit em in the face.

    Let their idiocy shine through.

    In this forum we are a product of our words.  Not just one post, all our posts.

    Oh, in that case, who am i to try and stop people from making fools of themselves?

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