[Mesh Head & Body Stats (Round 4)]

Just out of curiosity, how are you collecting this data? Something like the "What is she wearing" and then parsing a text file?

I do a lot of data analysis work in RL and this seems like a fun exercise.

[Do you incorporate RL aspects into your Avy/SL]

There aren't many RL things left in my SL shape. I am tall in RL, so my shape is tall. I used to have long hair, so my AV has long hair. 

I tend to dress the same as in RL, but that is because I have a hard time finding SL outfits I really like, or can pull off.

[Mac - Camera Settings Problems.]

Which viewer are you using?

Also, when you uninstalled the viewer, did you also trash the ~\Application Support\Firestorm, or ~\Application Support\Second Life folders? Copy them to your desktop, delete them, and re-drag out the client from the DMG file.

[Catwa Freya head on MALE avatars]

3 hours ago, Skell Dagger said:

Oh god, I have thousands of poses - lol! I honestly can't remember exactly which ones I used for those images, but I think they were old ones from Diesel Works.

Thanks! At least I have a place to go look for poses now.

[Catwa Freya head on MALE avatars]

18 hours ago, Skell Dagger said:

This look was one I put together for a long and detailed blog post guiding men through how to use an old classic skin gift on the Freya gift head and the L$1 Legacy 'Classic' body.

As an aside, what pose did you use for those images?

[Female Mesh Body]

2 hours ago, Damian Mills said:

Now that this project is done, I wouldn't mind putting a free mesh body on my alt.  But it doesn't appear the LucyBody is available anymore.    Do you have a place to get it?  If not, anyone got any other suggestions?

It's a midnight madness thing. Search on Lucybody, and go to the sim. There is a board you click. Assuming during the day enough people hit the board, around midnight you will get the delivery. I did it last night on an alt just to see how it worked. The BOM applier is around L$150-200, IIRC.

[Old SL player needs help with new mesh avatars and clothes]

This tutorial by @Nalates Urriah I think is a good overview,.

[Female Mesh Body]

Definitely not closed. I just logged on and went to the store.

Here is the SLURL to the store.

[Should we pay for shapes?]

16 minutes ago, Lillith Hapmouche said:

You do remember the original Ruth shape?

You really want to let those who came up with the proportion of that shape code an auto-adjuster?

😐

I can't really present an argument against this. 🙂

[need help with free classic body BOM????help?]

11 minutes ago, Jaide Beck said:

could you maybe tell me what it is under, maybe i could find it. i have an app for visually imapired people but i don'tthink it would work with reading that. 🙂

On the HUD (I think it is called Edit 1.2 in the body folder), choose the middle circle icon. In the upper right  near the border is an icon with 3 lines and a circle. Click that. Pretty much in the same area will be a button "Apply BOM." Click that.

Side note: you can't then choose a skin tone from that same window. It will overwrite the BOM setting.

[Should we pay for shapes?]

1 hour ago, Cinos Field said:

I'd imagine "simple mode" would be proportion locked! So for example, your arm length would change automatically based on your overall length, and so on. Perhaps for other things there'd be a few settings ("small nose", "big nose" and so on) that'd then scale based on head size. And some options that are practically never used like the various lopsided eyes would just be locked out entirely.

Yah, I was thinking it would "do the math" for the other sliders in the background.  Height generating arm length, choosing an overall body "style" determines hand, musculature, love handles, etc.

That said, different heads and bodies react to sliders differently (or just don't use them), so it's likely a pipe dream. The advice of starting with your head base shape and modifying the body is a good one.

[tips for a (re)newbie?]

18 minutes ago, LuaLoveU said:

i have 1l but yes i will try the fishing games, gonna google about that to see how it works  gonna grab the free stuff first then after i go for the other stuff, i don't want to put real money in here, at least will try for now, if i find my niche i may just upgrade, will see 

Getting to about L$300, with the free Catwa head and the Legacy shape, will get you into some groups that have a ton of free stuff. The Scandalize group, as mentioned, is good. I think they have a range of styles, so it's not all scanty wear.

The Free Dove is another good resource also. Lots of good mesh stuff there as well. The fabfree site mentioned earlier is awesome as well. They tell you if the group is free to join, which is nice. Also, the Stay at Home stuff is a good way to collect stuff.

I'd run around right now grabbing as many gifts as you can, and at the least, shove them in a folder called "figure out later" or something. You don't have to figure it out now, but the really good free stuff will have a likely expiration date so hoovering it up is a good thing to do.

[Should we pay for shapes?]

16 minutes ago, Beth Macbain said:

Why? No one has to use those sliders if they don't want to, and what defines a "power user"? Someone with a premium account? Someone who has been a resident for 2 years? 5 years? 10? To we have to pass a test or complete some quest before we're allowed to have all the sliders? 

Sorry, bad wording.

I meant basic and advanced, or "less options" and "more options". If you want to work with all the sliders, choose "advanced/more options."

If you just want to easily build the basis of a shape, choose "basic/we will help you through this."  

Edit: I thought of a better example. My camera has a way to just let it choose what it thinks is the best choice, or I can choose to prioritize shutter, or I can go full manual. I was thinking more along those lines. Complexity for where people want it; ease for where they want it.

 

[Is SL being super slow or is my laptop finally dying?]

Just now, Sassy Kenin said:

agree that's a good point, the viewer can also have a huge impact on performance.

Yeah, and as others have mentioned, with a lot of people coming back there is probably some Scotsman in the back of Linden Lab's data center yelling, "We need moah powah, cap'n"

[Should we pay for shapes?]

In terms of shape design, it would be nice if the existing slider system was a power user mode, but users could have a simpler system to choose from that would take care of avatar smoothing. Something like maybe the Skyrim-style sliders where users can only adjust about a screen's worth of sliders and deliver a decent shape. Like, height, body type, torso size, etc. But not get  into love handles, knee bow, eyelid folds, etc.

[Is SL being super slow or is my laptop finally dying?]

What viewer are you using, also? This weekend I thought I'd give the Linden viewer a try. I went to fogs, the ground thing they have never rezzed past gray, and neither did most of the avatars. I also had some weird issues in Black Dragon when I logged in for some pictures.

In the end, I just ended up going back to Firestorm.

[What I'm doing wrong?]

1 minute ago, Wulfie Reanimator said:

An easy example if you have Maitreya and Belleza bodies: Get your Omega applier and apply it to both bodies, then look at the toes.

That's a good point. I keep forgetting about the toe thing.

[tips for a (re)newbie?]

6 minutes ago, BraveHot said:

There are some reasonably priced and even free (sometimes for a limited time) mesh avis around, but my main advice would be: Don't be in a hurry. Try to enjoy and rediscover, and find out what you want to do and where you want to go.

I'd recommend at least getting them, even if they sit in inventory until someone can figure them out.

[What I'm doing wrong?]

13 minutes ago, Elisaisabel Munro said:

What I'm finding intriguing is why merchants are still selling appliers?

BOM came out last year -- August ish. So, there's a solid 7 years of "we did it this way because we had to." Someone more familiar with the skin scene can probably say if there is anything better about a skin and applier made for a specific body or head vs a BOM.

I am not sure how many of the big skin creators are moving to BOM also.

[tips for a (re)newbie?]

This is also a really good time to get into mesh. Legacy is giving away the Classic body for a refundable L$1, and Catwa is giving away a head also. A lot, lot, lot of patience is needed for getting into those sims since they are getting slammed.

[What I'm doing wrong?]

6 minutes ago, Elisaisabel Munro said:

As you can see in all the pictures i uploaded, I'm not.

Your last two photos show the Body/Applier skins.

[What I'm doing wrong?]

BOM uses system skins; not the body skins. I think by clicking a body skin you are over-riding the BOM setting. If you want to use the body skin, you will need to put the alpha layer on.

For giggles, go here and get the Stay at Home skin. If the Genus face is also BOM, setting the head and the body to use BOM, and wearing the Behance skin, you should not explode. If that does it, then the next step is finding a BOM skin you like.

This is assuming I'm following your problem correctly. It's been a long week.

[People still use classic avatars instead of bento heads and bodies?]

I work as an analyst in RL, so this seemed like a fun data collection exercise. As I was out and about at events this weekend I ran the "what is she wearing" HUD and make tick-marks on a piece of paper if it reported any mesh component. I didn't count how many were full mesh, or only mesh body, or male or female. I ended up having to throw out 19 results because a sim blocked scripts, and later I was wrong on my "classic or mesh" guess and decided to only go with a verifiable collection method.

It is still a small sample set, but it came down to this: Mesh, 102; System, 20. I would only collect data once at a place, even if I was there multiple times. So, I am at Fogs a lot, so I only collected data once, I wanted to track unique locations.

Because I am me, I might over the course of time write a few scripts on my computer to parse out the common heads and bodies. Mainly because text file manipulation like this should be something I am better at professionally.

[Should we pay for shapes?]

When it comes to shapes, the details matter. I finally went mesh over last weekend and thankfully some helpful strangers helped me fix a few glaring errors I wasn't aware of. I mean that non-sarcastically, a couple people managed to very delicately point out a few things. For me it was head size (slightly small) and my eye spacing was completely borked. My Flickr stream is here. The earlier posts are the bad face; the two from the weekend are after edits.

I don't know how many shape vendors provide a style card with the purchase. For me, the shape and links to get that exact look would be worth paying for.

[How does your avatar look today ?]

3 hours ago, VictoriaGrwd said:

The lighting on that is fantastic. How did you light it?