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    Group Opinion

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    On 9/2/2017 at 5:40 PM, moirakathleen said:

    What I have understood as best practices when creating a group (after reading many tales of woe here about groups, and seeing the advice given by long-time members) is that when you create a group, assign your alt (or create and alt and than assign the alt) to the group as an owner.  This allows your alt to add you back as an owner if you accidently leave the group.  

    My understanding is that a member with abilities to add new members cannot assign the new member to a role with more abilities than the role the person doing the adding has.  So only someone in an owner role can add someone else as an owner, and if the only other owner is your alt, then no one else can take ownership from you.  As Alwin noted above, you have to consciously take action to leave a group owner role. 

    For everyone else, including business or domestic partners, add them as an officer role and assign the officer role all abilities.  You could even create a new role called "co-owner" or "partner" that has all abilities available in the group.  The only thing they won't be able to do is add someone else to the owner role, and that is for your protection as owner, and I cannot see any reason why they would need that ability.  

    If you leave a group as the owner, due to selling the group associated with a business that you are selling to someone else, that is a business decision you are making, it should not be done lightly, and once done should be considered final (as it currently is).   In this type of business transaction, it is correct that you shouldn't be able to take the group back. 

    If, you say, so I am not to argue about it because I am right, and you are wrong have a good day. :)

    Group Opinion

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    Just now, Alwin Alcott said:

    a groupowner can only leave a group by full and total will, and own acting by having one or multiple co owners, ánd own clicking of the leave button.

    There is no single reason to give them the power to take over the group again.

    Yes, there is, if it is related to something important business related that is.

    Group Opinion

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    On 8/30/2017 at 10:28 AM, moirakathleen said:

    There is no need for additional rights of a group founder over other owners of a group.  What I don't understand is why someone founding a group would make someone else (a non-alt) an owner of the group.  There is the Officers role which is pre-made in the group setup.  Additionally,  a group founder can make new roles and assign the new new role any group functions that they feel are necessary for the new role.  

    That still doesn't stop people taking over the group founders should still have the rights to take back their group.

    Group Opinion

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    6 minutes ago, Cindy Evanier said:

    My comment still stands. If a founder sells the group on (which happens a lot)  your idea makes it easy for them to just take it back again from the person who has bought it.  I know of incidents where someone sold a business took the money, then 6 months changed their mind and they wanted the business back.  The new owner did not want to sell.  With your scenario the founder could just simply change their mind and take it back from the new owner.

    Well Cindy Evanier the whole part of this post that my Brother made was to get peoples opinions there is going to be agree, and disagree, so no drama intended at all.

    Group Opinion

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    Posted · Edited by Patrick032986

    Cindy Evanier let's back up, and think about this for a moment, if someone took over your group that you are a founder of, and, if you want to remove owners from your own group, and you can't than you would have to contact Linden Lab, if a founder had more rights be able to eject a owner from a group than that would put less strain on Linden Lab, and you don't have to wait around for Linden Lab to reply on the tickets just to get rid of some people in a group. I don't know how that would be drama in my opinion.

    Group Opinion

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    Posted · Edited by Patrick032986

    I agree to this, and I know what you are talking about. I think this would be awesome feature because it would help the founders to get their own group back, and ejected people that ownership rights. Founders should have the right to have more rights than owners do in my opinion. I think Linden Lab should be on top of this as, soon, as possible.

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    VPN

    in General Discussion Forum

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    This might be a odd question. But, is it illegal to sell hosting packages like an example VPN's aka Virtual Private Networks on second life? If, so how come I don't see very many of that stuff on second life?

    Server Bake Code

    in Second Life Server

    Posted

    I am liking everyones feedback really I do. Keep them coming please I am also a computer technician I have been for 10 years I am not a certified one but ... but I can tell you though that I got most of my knowledge from google. So yeah I really do love your guys feedback on this it's great to have people share their creativity and ideas :).

    Server Bake Code

    in Second Life Server

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    Ayesha Askham wrote:

    Oh Cincia

    Server-side baking is a "done deal"?  It is nowhere near that yet, though as you rightly say, it WILL happen, someday, no matter what SL residents might say.

    The code changes both in Viewer and Server are by no means all cut and dried, and given the recent inability of the programmers to even get basic server functions to work as expected, I am not holding my breath.

     

    As regards new viewers and "older" PCs there are almost as many variations on the basic PC theme as there are instruments out there.

    A PC is a consumable and it will not remain useable for ever.  One of the major stumbling blocks in SL is the simple fact that a great many of the Residents of SL are not what was perceived as the type of person that would ever use SL, they are non-techy people who simply cannot or will not spend the money necessary to keep up with technical developments.

    It is a fundamental mismatch between the makers of SL and a great many of its most loyal and regular users.  The makers cannot make a good SL that will run satisfactorily on "older" hardware and the folk that run, code and maintain SL simply do not comprehend those users' needs and a good many of them do not see why they should have to either.

    I am not sure that that issue is resolvable, it is one of the fundamental conundrums  in SL.

    And please do not tell me that "SL looked perfectly good five years ago".  It didn't.  I know, and so do folk like Cincia, who have been around even longer than I.

    I completely agree with you their when I first started out with SL years ago I had a crappy PC that not stand up to the SL Viewer at all so I cancelled my account and never used it again then when I got a new PC I went back to it again but ... now since I have rl going and I met someone from SL and moved in with her I decided to back off on SL she is on it more then I am but anyways that's beside the point but yes I agree with you their Ayesha Askham

    Server Bake Code

    in Second Life Server

    Posted

    well ... we'll have to see what happens I suppose if this was my business which it's not I would worry about the users ... but what do I know ... right? I just wanted to hear peoples feedback on it and I can see no one is really worried at all ...

    Server Bake Code

    in Second Life Server

    Posted

    As this maybe true, what if someone can not afford the money for a new computer I am not saying me cause I can run the recent viewers just fine but what if in general someone does not have a powerful enough computer to run the recent viewers what are they gonna do then?

    Server Bake Code

    in Second Life Server

    Posted

    I personally would like peoples opinion on the server bake code I would love to hear people's feedback on this my opionion on this matter would be stupid on LL's part cause there is a lot people out there that are forced to use the older viewers cause their computers can't handle it and they are gonna lose users cause of this. So I would love to hear what you would think about this.

    Opinions

    in General Discussion Forum

    Posted

    no that has to do with the group this situation was a bit different effect it had nothing to do with the group or login issues it had to do with nothing being clickable couldn't even close it I had to kill it then send a crash report to them and they blame it on the special characters in your display name.

    Opinions

    in General Discussion Forum

    Posted

    I just come to realize that they have a serious bug retaining to firestorm being unreadable for the special characters in the display name or I was told now that makes me wonder how that can be possible cause I had a problem with everything not being clickable in my firestorm when I woke up a few mins ago.

    Opinions

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    Posted

    well what I mean is that since the toolbar is bigger then usual the chats and notifications stick out too far and they said it's impossible to make it any lower then already is cause of the toolbar don't you think it looks bulky when the chats and notifications stick out a bit more then usual I mean then again it's just me I always use to it being so low to the right bottom corner I don't know I mean I can take a screenie and show you but I don't know.

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