Cephus Twine

I previously tried 'sandbox' in the search window, but didn't think of looking for a region named "Sandbox". Clearly I should have tried that in hindsight, but I did spend quite a bit of time looking on the SL website, in SL forums, and abroad on the net for where a sandbox was in the preview grid. I still stand by my conviction that LL did not put useful information in their "Information Hub", nor did they put any hint on their helpful and informative http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Preview_Grid page. Admittedly, I did overlook that there a couple regions named sandbox on http://aditi.coreqa.net/gridtool.php , but I don't think we should have to dig that deep. The answer should be more obvious.

Thanks so much for that. I did find the sandbox. Kudos! Asking on point, if you are a new visitor to the Waterhead "Information Hub" it's easy enough to find "ground transportation" (like we need that), but what is there to point you to somewhere you might need to go on the preview grid like a sandbox? Thanks again for your help!

What happened to the beta / Preview grid? I never really wandered around much there. For years I've logged into the same spot, and it's been a while now, but I logged in this morning and the region was gone. I was TPed to a "Nearby Region": the Waterhead welcome area. There is no sand box that I can find. Most land seems to be owned by the Lindens with a 20 minute return time or less. Land is divided into parcels. Most parcels on other regions are owned by someone else. You can't buy what little land there is for sale. I can't find anything on the internet or SL forum about this. Maybe I'm using the wrong search words, but where the hell did the sandboxes go and how the hell are you supposed to find them? Are we supposed to pay something to someone now to be able to use the preview grid? Do you have to have land transferred there to use the preview grid? Is the preview grid exclusive to some elite group or groups? Pardon my cynicism, but I've been looking for an hour and a half. Either (1) it's privileged to only a few now, or (2) it's become another money making tool. Whichever the case is, using the preview grid is certainly not obvious or intuitive, and no longer meant for just anyone. Thanks in advance for any info or advise.

That did it: Problem solved. I had my host open the ports and php scripts now are able to poll SL prims. Before I had assumed that since I could poll the SL prims from html, outbound traffic must be working; not so. Anyway, thanks to all. I had worked with this on and off for days.

I think that might be it! I do use a paid server and they say access to ports other than common are restricted. I've ask them to open 12046 and another port that I couldn't get to work either. I'll post back after the ports are opened.

Thanks for your reply Fleth, I've given it some thought but still don't have a answer. Addressing your first possibility; "maybe PHP scripts running inside your webserver are not allowed to establish connections to external servers": I looked over my php.ini file but really didn't find anything that looked wrong. But then, I still don't see how that could be the case because I can send a request from a LSL script to a remote server PHP script and receive response information in body from the PHP script with the LSL script. If PHP wasn't able to "send" on my server, I wouldn't be able to do this. Also, I can send Get or Post request with http. Addressing your second possibility; "The port for incoming requests to LSL scripts is 12046 (see URL) not port 80". You are of course right but there are 2 things I'm not sure of here. First, I did try to send on port 12046. That escaped my attention, but it's in the URL of the prim. The two ways I tried were with Curl ( ) and with file_get_contents ( ). Both work when I point them to another PHP script. But, I'm not as familiar with PHP as LSL. The problem could be that those functions don't like the way the ports are given which is just as SL spit them out; as part of the URL. BTW, I did put a "/" for the path at the end of the URL and also tried without. Any thoughts?

I have a http communications problem driving me nuts. This is more about understanding than getting a particular script to work. I have a feeling that the SL server is looking for some header or port or something I'm not giving it, but I don't know what. Has anyone had similar problems? Any suggestions? Any web examples of PHP to LSL (LSL to PHP is not a problem)? Puzzle pieces: I can send Get request from a LSL script and receive them with a remote server PHP script. I can send Post request from a LSL script and receive them with a remote server PHP script. I can receive LSL server headers with a remote server PHP script. I can send Get and Post request from a remote server PHP script using either of 2 different methods and receive them with with another remote server PHP script. I can send Get request with my browser receive them with a LSL script. I can send Get request from a remote server html and receive them with a LSL script. I can send Post request from a remote server html and receive them with a LSL script. I can send a request from a LSL script to a remote server PHP script and receive response information in body with the LSL script. The problem: I can't send a remote server PHP Get or Post to a LSL script. The quandary: Each of the 2 PHP send scripts are proven to work. The LSL script is proven to work (several variations). The LSL and PHP scripts do not work together. When I try, an event never occurs in LSL and the PHP script takes a long time like it's waiting for a response. I don't get an error and eventually the PHP script returns a message that it's done. All is on default port 80. The obvious workaround would be to pass the PHP information to html code and send it from there, but I'm prone to asking the question "Why?". I understand LSL pretty well and code in it regularly, but I'm really trying to get a better handle on LSL-http communications and this has proved to be a big stumbling block. Any thoughts would be appreciated.