So I made a thread a long, LONG time ago on a quest for the perfect skin... and I never found it :matte-motes-frown: . I'm hoping that now, I few years later, the community can maybe help me out a bit. If anyone can point me to a store or a custom designer that could fill the role I need, I'd be grateful. What I'm looking for: I need a skin for my main avatar - a female military hardass that doesn't use makeup or take care of her face. I'm looking for something high quality and am wiling to pay the price. Trouble is, all of the high-end female skins I can find all have the same problems: vestiges of make-up around the eyes -and/or-shiny lips even on natural/nude versions -and/or-THOSE BEESTUNG LIPS. THOSE. BEESTUNG. LIPS. :matte-motes-kiss: If you don't know what I'm talking about, it's the look SL is in love with where girls' lips are moist and puckery and plump. It's the norm on 99% of female skins by my calculations. It looks dumb as hell on my serious, no-frills, masculine soldier girl. I've tried modding face shapes a tousand times over, but the lips always end up spilling over the lips I reate for her, giving her luscious kissy lips even when she's wearing a thin-lined smirk. Ugggggggghghghghghghhh. Is there any hope for us girls that don't fit the pretty mold? Any shops/designers would be much appreciated! Thanks!