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Just talked to a kid, a friend, inworld. I know her as the most friendly welcome face at one of my favorite regions. I will not see her there.

She gets banned at several M rated sims since yesterday. Of cause A rated too.

The world IS getting smaller 😕

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1 minute ago, Love Zhaoying said:

I had been wondering why this thread was so big, then remembered that "everyone" is getting the new TOS when they login.

Even if they don't READ the TOS / see the changes, they are probably hearing about them from others. 

If they search for "Second Life TOS changes", they probably find this thread right away.

So, we get a lot of people checking in on this thread, who are not normally Forum users.

 

I was just looking for a summary of changes - I was just too lazy to analyze the new TOS. ;-)

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i really need to add more facial wrinkles and age spots to my 17 years old ava skin.

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8 minutes ago, Arielle Popstar said:

Except that this does not deal in any way shape or form with the pedophilic issue.

 

4 minutes ago, Lilbap said:

I hear chairs wired for electricity cures that.

*ducks and covers...

sorry, if i wasn't right or clear at this point. I am not a native english.

...as i noted in this thread ages ago:

"I am pretty sure, almost any child avatars, who join into sexual orientated areas and also act as sexual objects in adult regions were driven by very adult players who try to justify their sexual orientation. This does not happen by accident. For me, this is just sick. 

To hunt, blame, kick, ban those people will just cover the problem, but will not clean up SL of those people. Most of them simply will re-spawn as an alt-ava.

So, if something feels sick, you must face to it, not cover it by pushing it aside. As in RL. It is always a better idea to face those peeps directly in their virtual eyes. Better talk and tell them about NOT to justify their sick role-play."

So, YES, in my opinion there is an issue and i talked to those people and ARed this frequent times.

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10 minutes ago, BilliJo Aldrin said:

Do you have any idea how much an adult parcel on Zindra costs?

Your idea might work if LL quadrupled the size of Zindra, but they won't, because LL is in the long run trying to get away from adult content, not add to it.

...oh, and i don't think LL is trying to get away from adult content, it is a core business that gets a lot of real money in. And LL is a business not a pony ranch. I guess LL just likes to keep that business running in a legal way. And pedophilic disorder is a serious issue.

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6 minutes ago, BilliJo Aldrin said:

Do you have any idea how much an adult parcel on Zindra costs?

Your idea might work if LL quadrupled the size of Zindra, but they won't, because LL is in the long run trying to get away from adult content, not add to it.

Do you know how less attractive land on Zindra is?

The non-PG bed, the picture at the wall and the youp*rn stream at the neighbors TV drives private land owners and management towards adult estates.

There is no "closed door"

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2 hours ago, Roxy Couturier said:

They already did. The result is called 'Zindra'.

The result after that result were thousands adult estates. This is how "strict rules" always fail.

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we are looking on this from an European or American point of view.

In Asia, i.e. Japan youth got a very different aspect. Think about Mangas, Hikikomori, Kawaii... This is quite common. Not less Japanese people will not grown up, like to stay as a child. This got not automatically an sexual aspect.

A lot of Asian regions may also ran into issues.

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well - a lot, maybe most estate sims are adult. (the most I know) A lot of harmless topical beaches. In fact families got their beloved private homes there.

Those sims are not adult because of dungeons, hardcore and violence. Those are labeled A to avoid problems with privacy.

...some child avatars may never find home again.

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3 minutes ago, Madi Melodious said:

I was just subjected to adult conversation in a public forum about scripting.    What does the TOS have to say about that?  Do I need to run and flee because I'm a small avatar?

"Juliett Beaumont is 1.612400 m (5 feet 3 inches) tall. (counting your shoes)"

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This is about child avatars - not RL kids.

If a kid likes to sneak into a sexual orientated adult region? That kid surly will act as an adult character with a fake adult profile. Who will approve this? It is the internet.

This TOS change does not address kids. This address adult RP. 

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Lol! "The Undie Patrol Group"

First of all, It's Linden's game, so Linden's law - If the owners decide any avatar must be a blue cubic - it may be so. Deal with it.

In my opinion (...anything that follows is just my OPINION!) :

I am sure, this is not to save children from nudity, pornography or abuse. Nudity in SL is quite common. If any avatar joins into any mesh body crowded area, anybody is naked until all the high detailed stuff is rezzed - after minutes. This is not limited to adult regions. So if you like a clean, shiny, non nudity Second Life, then blame mesh for all that frequent nudity. Currently there is no technical way to cover any thrilling peace of the human body - in world-wide manner. (anyway this may end in default Burka for female, shirt, pants and Flip-Flops for male avatars)

I am pretty sure, almost any child avatars, who join into sexual orientated areas and also act as sexual objects in adult regions were driven by very adult players who try to justify their sexual orientation. This does not happen by accident. For me, this is just sick. 

To hunt, blame, kick, ban those people will just cover the problem, but will not clean up SL of those people. Most of them simply will re-spawn as an alt-ava.

So, if something feels sick, you must face to it, not cover it by pushing it aside. As in RL. It is always a better idea to face those peeps directly in their virtual eyes. Better talk and tell them about NOT to justify their sick role-play.

In my opinion it is a bit naive to think this new policy will make any world a better world. But it is a statement. Anyway, i am also worried this may lead into complications even for all the peeps, who were not sexual orientated to kids. On the other hand, people who are sexual orientated to kids pretty well know on what side they are on. They mostly ignore any policies already.

I do not remember a thread rising up this fast since the first threads as G/M/A differentiation and Zindra appears.