[Deeding property for the 10% group discount]

2 hours ago, LittleMe Jewell said:

Not really.  The smallest parcel size is 16 sqm (4x4) and all increments are also 16 sqm (4x4).  So even though a donation of 16 sqm to a group would allow for up to 17.6 sqm to be owned, because of the size limitations, you would actually go from 16 sqm to 32 sqm (from 5 LI to 10 LI) and the 32 sqm would require more tier donation.

Thanks Jewell for explaining these things so well

and when life is hard, pray for wisdom

[Deeding property for the 10% group discount]

5 hours ago, LittleMe Jewell said:

These days, it is called LI (Land Impact) and a 16 sqm parcel would get 5 LI.

LI is not exactly equal to the number of Prims.

I guess when deeded to group a 16 sqm mini parcel would earn 10% of 16 = 1.6 sqm for a grand total of 16 + 1.6 = 17.6 sqm, with enough prims for a towel and pillows

[Deeding property for the 10% group discount]

2 hours ago, Mollymews said:

16 sqm is the smallest land block that can be obtained

How many prims does a 16 sqm parcel get you?

[Deeding property for the 10% group discount]

11 hours ago, LittleMe Jewell said:

Your Premium membership gives you 1024 sqm without charge.  If you are willing to pay another $7.00 per month for tier, that actually gives you a total of 2048.  When that is donated to a group, the group can then own 2048 + 204 = 2252 sqm of land for the $7.00 per month fee.

Or just donate your Premium 1024 to a group and the group can then own 1126 sqm of land without any additional fees beyond your Premium membership.

 

So:

Purchasing a 1024 sqm parcel, when that’s all the property owned and then deeded to group, the extra sqm credit would be 102 sqm, and any additional sqm below a total of 2048(that being up to 2047) sqm would not add any extra sqm credit above the 102 sqm?

And:

Purchasing a 2048 sqm parcel, when that’s all the property owned and then deeded to group, the extra sqm credit would be 204 sqm, and any additional sqm below a total of 4096(that being up to 4095) sqm would not add any extra sqm credit above the 204 sqm?

And so on and so forth...?

[Deeding property for the 10% group discount]

31 minutes ago, TT120 said:

1024 plus %10 so about 1126sm I think.  I sux at maths though so that may not be right.

 

it's a start.. thanks

[Deeding property for the 10% group discount]

Purchasing a 1024 sqm parcel, when that’s all the property owned, is a $7.00 p/m tier. Once deeded to a group to gain the 10% group discount, what is the maximum possible sqm allowed beyond 1024 sqm and still remain in the $7.00 p/m tier?

[Shopping for Full Sims]

On 7/16/2021 at 9:50 AM, CirusEvans said:

Those are the ways you buy regions in SL

 

On 7/16/2021 at 2:00 PM, Alwin Alcott said:

you can landscape every region fully to your own likings, the shown lay outs are just examples.

Thanks Cirus and Alwin.. this explains what I didn't know about purchasing sims

[Shopping for Full Sims]

3 hours ago, CirusEvans said:

https://land.secondlife.com/en-US/

Thanks Cirus, but that's only 6 choices

[Shopping for Full Sims]

15 hours ago, Alwin Alcott said:

you can't

Region owners are no normal landowners, so when a region is for sale it won't show on the map as so. Normal landsales show all up as yellow.
Region sales are handled by LL not just between residents, and you'll only know if they post it here, or tell you in person.

note: you can buy a region, all kinds except mainland, directly from LL.

Thanks Alwin, that's understandable.

[Shopping for Full Sims]

6 hours ago, lyon Heart said:

This should be posted/moved to General Discussion under Land Forum. As this forum is made for sellers selling land and for buyers looking to buy.

Your post will most likely be seen and answered there in regards to how to look for land tips and making purchases.

This is under "Land Forum", and yes, I'm buying.. Care to speak concerning OP question?

[Shopping for Full Sims]

How does one go about independently search for full sims that are for sale?

[Concerning Land Auctions]

1 minute ago, Alwin Alcott said:

you can make it better without extra costs...BUT can't buy at auctions with that system    /// create a group(make sure you have a ALT as second member, and donate all your tier to the group.. you'll get a additional (free) 10%  sqm to own

Yes, I've heard that, and I have a group. Thanks for reminding me Alwin, and for being willing to be so helpful.

[Concerning Land Auctions]

5 minutes ago, Alwin Alcott said:

you can see the tier levels at your accountpage under the landmanager, the mentioned tier levels are exclusive the 1024 from the premium subscription.

So the closest would be 4,096 sqm, but with my 1,024 sqm premium credit, it would be [1,024 + 4,096] = 5,120 sqm and would be charged only USD$22.00 p/m for the additional 4,096 sqm ?

[Concerning Land Auctions]

Is 5,120 sqm a full tier, and if so, how many prims would it have?

If a 5,120 sqm parcel isn't a full tier, I'd like to know what would be the closest full tier on either side. Like maybe 4,096 sqm on the lower end, and 8,192 sqm on the higher end

[Concerning Land Auctions]

11 minutes ago, Qie Niangao said:

Now that you mention it, I've done something like that too, especially delaying when there's not even an opening bid. That said, most stuff I'll end up bidding on is already over L$1/m by the time I see it, so it's kinda academic at that point: anybody looking at auctions knows there must be some reason to check out this one. Anyway, I don't time it all that closely: my last bid is almost always my first, and almost never later than an hour before the auction closes. ( I don't buy to resell, so a bargain isn't all that important to me; I might cut it closer if I were trying to make margin, which might interest a lot of auction bidders.)

All very practical. I'd further forget the maximum price I'd pay, so if the current high bid is low enough, I could place my first and last bid worth 2 bids, a split second before bidding closed. I myself have spent ridiculous prices for parcels I really wanted, but in an auction, I'm not there for a deal, but a steal.

[Concerning Land Auctions]

On 4/12/2021 at 4:47 AM, Qie Niangao said:

#1 "But it only shows them what they must beat to the extent they're willing to bid that much to find out. They don't get to see your maximum bid up-front; rather, they only see the amount of your bid that was necessary to beat the previous winning bidder. The rest of your bid is only revealed, a bit at a time, as they try to outbid you and fail."

#2 "The last-second-bidding "strategy" seems like it's trying to capture the "thrill" of a completely different kind of event: the old synchronous, auctioneer-gaveled auction as at Christie's, Sotheby's, estate sales, etc. An inexperienced bidder can play right into the hands of that "strategy" by only bidding L$10 more than the previous winning maximum bid and hoping to respond to counter bids before the auction closes. That naive approach pretty much always loses to a bidder with better automation, playing the whole auction list to snatch bargains from such naive bidders."

The #1 portion of your remarks, was just what I needed to here, and for that thank you so much.

The #2 portion of your remarks, seem to be not the case from my vantage point, in that showing no interest in the auction may lull others in thinking it's not so competitive. Also, and more to the point, there's simply no reason to tip your hand with any premature bidding. I'd much prefer taking my competition by surprise, allowing them precious little time to adjust.

[Concerning Land Auctions]

1 hour ago, Alwin Alcott said:

There are for sure such places abandoned, go look for it
But... if LL thinks it's bringing them more profit to auction... they will.

That makes perfect sense, and thank you for helping me with these questions so liberally.

[Concerning Land Auctions]

5 hours ago, Alwin Alcott said:

go around at mainland... nearly half of it is abandoned ... some regions totally. If you see empty land, look at the "about land".

You've heard the old saying, "It's all about LOCATION LOCATION LOCATION". I like the big 3, Water, Protected Road Connected, and Snowy. And then you have lands like in Zindra, where there are vast communities allowing no terraforming, making for a most homogeneous atmosphere. Do any of these types of lands I just mentioned have enough abandoned lands to make sifting through them worth the time and energy?

[Concerning Land Auctions]

On 4/12/2021 at 3:31 AM, Alwin Alcott said:

If you look around at the map, or just travel at regions you like, find abandoned land, and put in a request at support to buy it. ( doesn't have to be the size of the land you see on the region, it can be smaller too) This is often a more money saving option than auctions... good situated land always gets better prices... for LL reselling abandoned land is always 1 L$ sqm.

I've never been able to efficiently find abandoned lands. Is there any way of targeting them?

[Concerning Land Auctions]

1 hour ago, Alwin Alcott said:

yes that's the max amount they will use for you to bid. After being overbid you can of course add a new one, but i mostly let it go and hope to get a good deal next parcel.

But that shows the competition what they must beat well ahead of the end. With proper timing, seconds before the end, I could give them no time to think out whether or not they want to match it

[Concerning Land Auctions]

1 hour ago, Alwin Alcott said:

i mostly put in my max bid i want to pay, using auto bid. The system will only use it when there are other bids ( in steps of 10) And if others bid more... good luck, i'll try another one the next time.
ALWAYS go look at the land, check the building in the sky and neighbours, so you won't regret a possible win the moment you win it.

Normally there is no lag in the auctions, and the server behind it can work with a legion of bids the same time. But dont worry... most lands don't get a huge amount of bids.

Thanks for your response Alwin. Is the 'auto bid just the normal bid entry under the 'Submit Your Maximum Bid' ?

[Concerning Land Auctions]

 

1. Understanding the basics, like the minimum bid must be L$10 above the current highest bid, how does biding in excess of the minimum needed has any advantage?
2. How much time does it take the system to process a bid before it's recognized, given lag, and number of bids made at the same time?

[Finding Abandoned lands]

Thanks Alexis, for being willing to share your hard earned expertise. You're the best SL has to offer.

[Finding Abandoned lands]

Being that Jewell has 17,826 posts, and I only 7.. shouldn't I be the LittleMe 🥴

Thanks to everyone who has, and perhaps will have participated with your thoughtful insights.

God Bless All,

bob

Let's not play the fool

 

 

[Finding Abandoned lands]

Yes, that's fully understood, not being new to the game of land auctions, but in Map, land for sale has lots of information concerning them, but no mention if they are owned by LLs or not, which would be useful. I'm looking for a way to locate abandoned lands specifically, and I understand you don't believe it's possible.