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21 minutes ago, edgeofreason said:

Thanks I will take a look at the tutorial. My point is that I don't want to  create anything - I simply want to be able to adjust where the sun is when I hop from one sim to another.  At the moment that is easily done with a simple slider that is directly accessible.  Under EEP making. a simple tweak to a setting seems rather like a major mission.

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What  you're looking for is a simple way to adjust the elevation of the sun, not the time of day. That feature has disappeared in EEP; setting elevation (and the azimuth) is now very clumsy and difficult to do with any precision, and impossible to know exactly what the values are, a critical need for those of us who have calculated exactly what the values should be.

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59 minutes ago, edgeofreason said:

I must be missing something then - cos all I seem to have at my disposal is this unbelievably complicated and unhepful set of controls. If that helpfu old slider with dawn at one end - midday in the middle - and midnight towards the end has been moved somewhere, you would make me very happy by telling me where 🙂

https://gyazo.com/1f71c9c7c67cb72c48d99e36d96a0fef

What you're showing is the dialog box for creating a single environment setting.  You need to create a day cycle and import it, or you can create individual settings from the day cycle editors. You will see (among other things) a panel like the one in the picture below, where you can control the time of day your environments will show up. One way to create your first day cycle is to right click on a folder in  your inventory (the folded called Settings would be your best place), the select New Settings -> New Day Cycle, change its name to something descriptive, then double click on it.

https://gyazo.com/2c8c79df950af4ba14f5bfae5e145b07

 

Inara Pey has an excellent tutorial about these things at:

https://modemworld.me/2020/04/21/tutorial-environment-enhancements-project-eep/

 

 

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7 hours ago, edgeofreason said:

This all echoes my earlier post about usability.  I am sure (for some) this new interface offers facilities that are useful once the intricacies have been mastered, but many will feel the lack of the simple slider that provided a quick and intuitive way to change the 'time of day'.  I - for one - plead for that to be retained (perhaps alongside the more complex, if arcane, sun and moon gimbals).

I'm not sure what you mean about changing the 'time of day' because the time of a preset is set by a slider.  I do wish the interface would display azimuth and elevation for both sun and  moon in text boxes where you could specify the exact values instead of guessing them by moving dots around in a graphic. As it stands,  it's really hard to make sun and moon move along a constant orbital plane from one preset to the next. (An even cooler feature would allow you to set global parameters specifying the inclination and reference direction for the orbital plane that would hold for all the presets, and the location of the sun or moon would be depend only on the time of the preset. I would also like free cake every Monday.)

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3 hours ago, Stevie Davros said:

The Sun is still below the horizon. Try clicking the E and N arrows until it just peeps above the horizon and the little yellow sun light up bright, like the moon is on the right side. If you are after a pre-dawn glow, you need to move the Glow Focus slider across to the left into negative territory and reduce the Glow Size to about 1.80.

Thanks Steve for your advice but I can find no way to get the sun to light up (regain the glow) when it rises above the horizon, no matter where I drag and no matter how I move it.

I believe this is a bug and I'll just have to wait until it's fixed. Luckily it's not very important. Twice a day when for no known reason the glow shifts from the sun to the moon or vice versa,  causinga sudden change in the overall lighting, noticed only by me.

I think there should be two glow settings, one for the sun and one for the moon. That the moon now captures the glow from time to time is probably a  bug, not a feature.

 

 

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Can anybody tell me how to get the sun to light up when I want it. I want it to appear at 6am but it won't show up until later no matter what settings I use.

 

https://gyazo.com/780473b2f1cd38936cb090a3a8da1b86

shows my current settings but no matter what changes I make to the location of the sun, glow focus and glow size, it just stays dark.