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    Groups not sending notices properly

    in Technical

    Posted

    Hi, 

     

    sorry for late response, yes I had my emails enabled on both accounts and couldn't get chicklets on either, it must have been Black Friday Sale just lagging the system, my group is only small.  Anyway I  have sent one notice since and it seemed to work. 

     

    Thanks very much for trying to help. 

    Groups not sending notices properly

    in Technical

    Posted

    Hi, I have a small group of 50 people and when i send a msg, it doesn't open the group in the chats tab, doesn't post for a few moments up in left hand corner of screen.  It also doesn't come through to email ( I tested with an alt) 

     

    I have ' able ot receive group messages selected..  Does anyone have any idea? 

     

    Thank you

    My friend has a link on her profile but instead of a normal link it says more? how do you do this

    in Everything Else

    Posted

    On 8/8/2015 at 11:09 PM, Alwin Alcott said:

     found this in google..tried it on myself and seems to work...

     [yourwebaddress Word]

    so for example you have to type in your profile: [http://www.firestormviewer.org Firestorm]

    and you will get the word Firestorm with a working hyperlink in it

    Thank you!  I had been looking for that answer for so many years, lol. 

    Removal of "Gift To" On Large Ticket or No Copy Items

    in Merchants

    Posted

    That's a typo, I meant basic no gifting, not no basic accounts. I edited it out about 10 minutes before you posted.  

    2 minutes ago, Klytyna said:

    Still with the damn assumption that people who don't pay premium and live on the damn mainland are somehow pointless criminals and not worth bothering with. How many legitimate sales will you lose if you only sell to Madlanders? How much will it cost you? A damn sight more than business insurance. It's almost as if you WANT to go out of business due to bad practice.
     

     

     

    Removal of "Gift To" On Large Ticket or No Copy Items

    in Merchants

    Posted · Edited by Sunny Hui
    typo

    13 minutes ago, Klytyna said:

    Ok, a 'simple' option... when you put an item on the MP, there's a tick box, where you can decide if instead of the standard 5% cut for LL, you want to agree to a larger cut, in exchange for which if the item getsd bought with stolen funds, you don't lose financially...

    [x] Yes I wish to pay a 7.5% LL sales tax on this item in exchange for fraud protection insurance.
     

    I don't want to start that game, it just gives thieves permission to steal more and then premiums start rising.  

    Basic no gifting and phishing scam warnings on log in seem still the best option, easy to implement, to me. 

    My ultimate is to work out how to best identify and ban phishers and copybotters and actually do it, but they too generate a lot of income for LL.  As you keep trying to stress, the machine is the machine.  But still, it could work a lot better.  

    Removal of "Gift To" On Large Ticket or No Copy Items

    in Merchants

    Posted

    31 minutes ago, Klytyna said:

    I'm not anti-gacha reseller... Just telling you WHY things are as they are. 

    This kind of problem can affect any business, SL or RL that involves selling 2nd hand items for significant markups on the original purchase price.

    Harsh reality time... Doesn't matter how many pulls it takes to win that ultra rare, the cost price to you of that ultra rare is the same as the most undesirable common, the cost of a 'pull', if you have to play a machine 1000 times to get that ultra rare, that item did not cost you 50,000 ls, it cost you 50 ls, and you have 999 other 50 ls items that wont resell for as much.

    The fine art business RL has similar problems, paintings bought with stolen money that can't be recovered because nobody knows where they went, but the money paid has to go back to its real owner, forgeries that look just like the real thing, etc.

    In the art world, selling a painting for $10,000,000 then finding out it was a forgery, or that the negotiable bearer bonds used to pay for it were stolen and you have to give them back, well, THAT is serious money, hence why people are really careful in that business and always have business insurance.

    Maybe what you and the other gacha sellers should be asking for isn't ineffectual market place controls based on snobbery like 'tick box to only sell to premium' etc., what you should be asking for is for LL to set up some kind of MP Vendor's Insurance Scheme, to compensate people for loss due to criminal activity, pay a modest premium, and when your 'valuable whatever' vanishes, make a claim on the insurance.
     

    I've thought of a group fund not for insurance but for a lawyer. 

    Removal of "Gift To" On Large Ticket or No Copy Items

    in Merchants

    Posted

    14 hours ago, Lucia Nightfire said:

    The overall problem is that LL only follows the money and goes no further where that ends. Governance needs to update their protocols to also follow purchases and distributions of no copy objects as well if they find that that stolen funds were used in the original purchase and return the no copy object(s) back to the original seller.

    While it is true that a no gift option on marketplace could still be abused with an alt making the purchase, logging in and transfering the object to another alt possibly generating a transaction trail, it would still slow them down and make it even easier to track their actions.

    This feature aims to decrease the chances of fraud, as it is impossible to deter fraud 100% of the time.

    A seller can have peace of mind not allowing gifting of high dollar items and/or no copy items if they choose.

    With all that said, I'm curious how you all would feel about additional listing options such as:

    - Accounts must have Premium status to buy this item.

    - Accounts must have Premium status to search/see this listing.

    - Accounts must have payment info used to buy this item.

    - Accounts must have payment info used to search/see this listing.

    - Accounts must have payment info on file to buy this item.

    - Accounts must have payment info on file to search/see this listing.

    Such listing options would also further reduce the chance of fraud.

    Adult listings already require adult status afaik so it shouldn't be hard to check for the logged-in account to possess any of these flags. Granted, it may hurt sales chances, but it should still be up to the seller who they fell comfortable marketing and/or selling to.

    The basic no gifting thing would be really good, as it, to my mind, cuts merchant out of the crime loop.  

    The loss should go on the account buying the item, not the seller who bought it to resell legitimately.  I know they are often victims of phishing, but a merchant can't be asked to be responsible for them.   

    A regular repeat of a log in notice on main viewers to warning on blindly clicking the phishing links people spray out in groups would be helpful.   The threat of a scam will get peoples attention enough to take notice. 

    Already the competition is steep, copy botters putting rares and entire collections up often at near cost price is impossible to compete with when a merchant often spends 50 to 200 real dollars to buy up enough to get the equivalent in stock and is left a massive amount of stuff that won't sell for years.

    To my mind, the big merchants putting the gacha's out at festivals and so on seem to be making enough profit not to file dcma on their copybottted gacha's or they would do more often.  

     

    Removal of "Gift To" On Large Ticket or No Copy Items

    in Merchants

    Posted

    4 hours ago, Klytyna said:

     

    The owner of the borrowed account that payed for all this complains, LL recover their money, but they don't recover your 'valuable gacha' because the damn things have passed through the hands of 20 different people, and tracing all that takes TIME, time that LL pay for, some junior Linden Clan member on $20 an hour, an extra hours work tracking down 5 gacha panties with an official replacement value of... 50 ls each on a gacha machine, 1 us$ the lot.

    YOU say you 'lost' 25,000 ls worth of valuable mechandise, but what you actually lost was, a dollars worth of gacha. LL won't spend $20-$40 recovering your 1$.

    Sorry but those are the harsh economics of gacha resale .

     

    A few hours or a few days to write/update some code to trace money & items.  

    Three minutes to Type an avs name and press the button, another two minutes to return the items to rightful owner.  

    Deduct the daily stream of time to cut and paste the by rote 'not our problem" answers to cheated merchants. 

    Add the profit that comes from running an attractive business model. 

     

    Removal of "Gift To" On Large Ticket or No Copy Items

    in Merchants

    Posted

    I just got a letter saying they had removed some money from my alt acc I send my MP payments too.  I am very lucky it was under $2kL, I identified the payment in my history and can see it was an avatar gifting to another.   

    Reading above posts, I don't understand what LL gain out of going after us and not the fraudster.  

    And also don't quiet understand who or what LL are actually compensating?  

    And if the fraudsters cashed out, who are LL paying back?  

    Sorry if it is really obvious but it goes over my head, can someone please explain? 

    The transfer items are there in the fraudulent buyers/alts inventory or the next buyers, possibly the fraudulent earnings are still around too.  

    Also I've seen stuff on MP where various buying options were unavailable, 'buy as gift' or a "buy now" I can't remember which, so it might be possible to do as Stone suggests.   

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    Vendor failures

    in Merchants

    Posted

    Thanks very much for your responses, Lutricia and Ela.  For now I am MP and am only starting off in world and don't have a lot of stuff for sale yet, no traffic in world yet either, so I am going to put the SL script in to just sell.  And will test and check out vendors separately & privately in my skybox.  

    I have scoured the (huge & pretty well detailed) wiki to the vendor I am trying and found the area-  constant runstack errors, yet neither of their suggestions seems to be cause, no response at all on the ticket I filed, no invite to group.  A real shame as it looked like a good vendor.  E2V, mentioned above, sounds really good support wise, which matters heaps to me, especially in the novice era of using something, but is substantially more cost wise than others and currently beyond me.

    t's weird about the groups, as I mentioned I can't get into this vendor support group, also there was no group provided for a really nice HUD system I invested in. I don't get why they don't give group access, makes most thing so quick & easy to solve support wise.  

    I found this SL wiki page with a few big vendor systems compared, cost & features etc.  It might be interesting or helpful for people.   

    http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Vendor_systems_comparison 

    Vendor failures

    in Merchants

    Posted

    Hi, 

    I've been trying to set up one of the big vendors, it was simple and looks awesome, but keeps crashing and I can't get an invite to tech support group.  

     

    So my original plan was just the sales script but i wanted an email notification and split profit included.  It would work for me as MP does, I keep track by email there.  I expect these scripts are everywhere, but I can't find one, so am wondering do they exist?  Because I would rather just do that for now.  

     

    Also I am curious why people don't just do this simple method?  Is it that is is safer from copybotters or all the extra conveniences with the big vendor companies?  

     

    Thanks 

    LindeX times

    in Merchants

    Posted

    Hi

     

    About 24 hours ago I put a wad of $L onto the LindeX to sell at 248 lindens for a dollar.  I had read it was quite quick, but that blog post is old.  I have no movement on it. 

     

    Is this normal?

    Are there optimum amounts of Lindens that sell quicker?

     

    Is there a best way to choose the mount of lindens per dollar you sell for? 

     

    Thank you in advance for any experiences shared. 

     

    full version link wrong

    in Merchants

    Posted

    don't worry, lol, i just put a new one up.  :smileyhappy:

     

    though one thing to think of is these days there are scripts that you can ada button to your demo (if it's in a hud) to take the customer back to the listing.  can't hurt, i just put on on the new demo.  

    full version link wrong

    in Merchants

    Posted

    Did either of you find a fix?  

     

    I uploaded an item and messed it up, it was left on my MP listings as just SKU: and blank in the details, lead to an empty unlisted MP, so I uploaded again and it was fine, uploaded & linked my demo then the next day I have a look how it's going and the demo won't link back to the product page.  I checked version numbers they're all in order on web page and in viewer Listings Folder. 

     

    I worked out how to remove the dead page, rebooted, still so solution

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