TouchofSoul

Yes I know that, so there's no need to get nasty. I'm neither dense, nor a liar. I'm just looking for confirmation, which is hard to get when I read various versions. I've been in SL much longer than this avatar suggests, but sim rules have never been something I've been too serious about. Until now. Is that explanation good enough for you, Drake? So my sim, my rules, and you're not invited. How's that?

Okay I think I need to clarify something before this gets out of hand.... I'm not going to AR anything FOR anyone to LL. That's not my purpose. What I'm trying to find out is how much a visitor of my sim is allowed to report to ME, as simowner. And how much of the TOS then applies to my simrules. Example: three people are having a conversation on my sim. They are regulars and never bother anyone. Then a new visitor comes along, gets in the middle of their conversation and begins to act like a complete juvenile. Over the next several days this person is reported to me as being a complete nuisance for doing similar things to other visitors. Now of course I'll ban this person without thinking hard about it, because it would be silly to warn every visitor of such a person and to ask them to block and blacklist him/her. But all I have to go on is the word of the harassed visitors. I don't have actual proof that it took place, and the guilty person probably won't freely give up their chatlog. Now I won't lose any sleep over banning such a person without actual proof, and I hightly doubt that person would report me to LL. So what I was trying to find out if I, in any way, could defend the banning without requesting chatlogs from all involved? Could the person who was banned ever turn around and report me for wrongful banning or whatever? You say I'm in no position to find out what has happened. I disagree with that statement. As simowner I have every right to defend my visitors, or try to referee in a situation if it means I don't have to ban anyone. The less people I ban, the more people visit my sim. I have no wish to become a permanent moderator on my sim. I've made it expressly clear that if there are problems that I'm to be contacted, and I fully intend to back that up, but in doing so I want to stay within LL policies and merge them, where possible, with my simrules. Now if you, or anyone else here, know for a fact that I can ban people to my heart's content, then so be it. End of question. I'm just trying to find out if it won't come back to me and legally bite me in the ass.

"You can bann anyone you want anytime you want with no explanation, as long as yu are either the land own/rentor or someone who has been given that ability by the land owner/rentor." Yes I know that, but I'd rather not. I'm not a trigger happy kind of fellow who adds someone to a banlist without a good reason. I like to keep the word spreading that I have a nice, friendly adult sim. And not the kind of place where someone gets banned just because someone said another person was being annoying while people were trying to enjoy themselves. I'll ban without question if someone trespasses to an unprotected part of the sim in the sky where they're not supposed to be going since I've turned off the flying option for the sim. Somehow they still find a way to fly up there. Yes I have orbs in place, but with multiple platforms I'm not about to buy orbs for everything. I have three in place where they're needed most, and that was expensive enough. I'll permanently ban people who have been warned of misconduct multiple times.

" For reasons other than Abuse Reports to LL, I do think a sim owner can request visitors to opt-in to a sim's specific terms and conditions about chat recording or whatever, and eject them from the sim if they don't agree. This would almost certainly require a "positive opt-in," not merely a notice on arrival. Perhaps some role-play sim owner will know the right procedure and language that would make such a policy safe to enforce." That's actually a pretty good idea. Sort of like a safety clause. That sounds enforceable. Thanks for the tip!

Hello all, This is my first post on this forum, so please bear with me. ;) I was just reading LL TOS, and as we all know the TOS is widely misunderstood by many. I'm setting up some new rules for my sim and TOS and Harassment has become a point of discussion. To quote LL TOS: Harassment Given the myriad capabilities of Second Life, harassment can take many forms. Communicating or behaving in a manner which is offensively coarse, intimidating or threatening, constitutes unwelcome sexual advances or requests for sexual favors, or is otherwise likely to cause annoyance or alarm is Harassment. So my question regarding this is: how does one report harassment if one isn't allowed to share chat logs without consent by all involved parties? Certainly the harassing party won't give consent, as it will obviously incriminate them. I'm not always on the sim, so I ask the visitors to report any wrong doings done onto them. But of course I can't do much without some form of proof, and without it it's the word of one person against that of another. On the one hand I think "I'll do what I must to protect my visitors and ban the harassers without debate" and on the other hand I want to stay within LL's rules and policies too. Certainly there must be some "loopholes" and/or "precedents" set for sim owners? Regards, Soul