Shakeno Tomsen

@arabellajonesIt is very likely the DNS is giving you a different relay when trying to ping the Amazon servers. I know Google does it, because www.google.com and www.google.es give me the same ping result. Back then, I was able to get different results and have the ping application return me what is expected from a US location, using the US IP from Google, but now I always get the same result, expected from a Spanish location from both the Spanish and US IP from Google. Could Amazon be doing the same? Really weird stuff. Regardless, my ping values were given from the Statistics window, from both Phoenix sims and Amazon sims. It also makes sense, because I get a response expected with those ping values if I make a click and wait for the sim response to happen. A bit after clicking and releasing the mouse button, the sim response comes through with a noticeable delay. It was shorter back then, although still noticeable, just not as long as now.

@AishagainThere is logic, because you are much closer to the relays where the intercontinental internet cables are connected to. A connection to the US must travel through many more relays and travel a higher distance when it is started in Spain than from the UK, same reason as why someone in the US would have a much lower ping than you do. And, no, it isn't a FPS based issue. As I said, I've been in SL for longer 10+ years, and I am speaking on averages, but if you insist this is a FPS issue, even empty sims where I have 60+ FPS exhibit this problem. [EDIT]: Sorry, I didn't reply to your point for people in Australia. It is a very good point, I never posted anything that asks to not to host sims in other parts of the world (In fact, I wasn't aware of this). But what I was asking for was, if they are in the US, for them to be moved to places where other parts of the world could benefit much more.

Hello, I don't really post much often here, but this is concerning me enough to actually begin a discussion in the forums. I've noticed that some sims I used to go to are migrating to Amazon. One of my biggest worries was the ping sim going higher due to higher distances to the server, and my worries ended becoming reality. I'm located in Spain, and with the Linden Lab servers I used to have between 180ms minimum to 260ms peaks in ping sim. I averaged around 220ms~230ms. Skill based action games were still somewhat doable, I was just at a slight disadvantage but things could still feel responsive if scripted properly. Now, since they moved to amazon, my ping sim has increased to between 240ms minimum to 320ms maximum. Games/minigames in Second Life or Second Life combat in general is almost unplayable due to the high disadvantage and the general clunkyness SL gives off now. I can mouseclick, and release the finger, and my action still hasn't reached the sim. Now, before anyone goes on to blame my internet connection, I have a solid 1GB/s connection, and it has been working pretty well before the switch, save for certain stutters that happened for different causes. I believe it is safe to assume that something that has worked for so long (10+ years) isn't to blame when the problems began after one of the variables changed (the switch over to Amazon) Of course, this is very likely to be a distance related issue. People from other parts of Europe will have different pings. Probably people in the UK will have a lower ping sim. People in the US may not notice much of a difference at all. However, for those who are further, this is going to drive them away, and reduce the community of people who are interested in the fun videogame potential SL had to offer. I'm trying to teach people that SL is more than a visual chat room, and up to this point it used to be, it offered a lot of fun things to do, despite the "bAd GrApHiCs". But things like these which makes the core of the game feel clunky kills the incentive of actually playing when there are other platforms getting the attention of former SL residents. So, this is a somewhat long post, so let's conclude it here: What am I asking to LL: Please consider requesting a migration to a more central location in the US: more eastern so European residents can get a ping similar to what it used to be, and more southern, so people from South America also can get a better ping, similar to what they used to have. What am I asking to residents: Please share your thoughts, experiences, and if possible, see if we can raise awareness for this to reach LL. For people in the United States who are considering criticizing this proposal, please consider that maybe getting +40 ms ping in your end might mean switching the game from extremely clunky to playable for people in other parts of the world. There are people who have a much worse ping than I do who can't do anything other than chatting. Simply going from 230 to 320 has made the base Second Life avatar movement feel much clunkier. I don't want to imagine those having a ping higher than 350...

It seems to time out after an address located in the US (Los Angeles). As I said, this problem only seems to happen with Second Life, and I do more than just browsing the web. Even when playing games in the US servers in other games, my connection seems so much more stable than here. I mentioned the secondlife.com website because I figured it was a good example to see if the second life service was down entirely or not.

Depending on the timespan (Usually the mornings and sometimes specific hours in the afternoon), I can't seem to log in at all (stuck in Logging in, sometimes in Connecting to region). This morning I had the same issue, and somehow managed to get through, but my ping was really high (up to 380ms) and my packet loss was rounding 43%, resulting in getting stuck while jumping or moving, animations not playing, inventory taking forever to load, messages not getting through... etc Lately my connection with Second Life seems quite messed up for some reason, I'd think it's my connection, but it seems to happen only with Second Life. At times, I also get on the Second Life console the error "503 Service Unavailable" while trying to log in to a simulator, or "Timed out" I don't know if it should be related or not, but secondlife.com and status.secondlifegrid.net seem to be working fine during those issues. I can also log in to secondlife.com fine. Edit: I did forget mentioning I'm in Spain.