["Experience profile" TP systems - Anyone else not keen?]

5 hours ago, Rowan Amore said:

I do understand people not wanting to allow them for whatever reason but claiming they're collectively bad is just not so.

Yet again putting words in my mouth. 

I did not say they were "collectively bad". I said they had the potential to do bad things without warning.

Big difference.

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2 minutes ago, Solar Legion said:

Except that there is no "yes forever" option unless you yourself choose to leave that permission in place.

Read the documentation - it can be revoked at any time and it does not require much to do so.

Ok to start with, I'm not stupid.

When you accept, it IS a yes forever - UNLESS the user does something to revoke it. 

Many will forget / not know / be too lazy / not actually realise what they accepted.

Should these people be exploited?

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Just now, Love Zhaoying said:

..but you can revoke an Experience's permission at any time. Perhaps it should be easier to do so (revoke an Experience's permissions), like a button with "Leave Experience" somewhere on the screen at all times similar to the "stand" button when you sit on something?

 

Personally I think there should be an "only this time" accept button rather than a choice between "no" and "yes forever"

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Just now, Love Zhaoying said:

That's saying a lot! And I read not too long ago, that sliced bread was the best thing since Betty White!

 

Do we even have sliced bread?

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2 minutes ago, Qie Niangao said:

And yet I'll bet you sit on furniture and wear attachments you didn't script yourself, and it's really much easier for those to cause abuse and get away with it than it is for an Experience. I see that "report abuse" button as more a deterrent than a fire alarm.

I'm sure some Experience has been abused at some point, or if not one surely will be someday—all SL features eventually get abused. And yet we persist in logging in and moving around and interacting with objects any of which may be booby-trapped. We judge that we have adequate control, despite the ways they can cause entropy. To me, Experiences are not meaningfully different but I accept that others assess that differently. That doesn't mean that I'll ever understand why.

Its not "easier".

Furniture can do things when you sit.

And when you stand, perms are revoked.

Experiences are not like this

Also, furniture doesn't change your environment.

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1 hour ago, Paul Hexem said:

It seems to me that the only posts being belittled are the exaggerated, over the top posts claiming that Experiences are only made by griefers and trolls.

Try to respond to what we actually say rather than what you think we say

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3 hours ago, Qie Niangao said:

A script in any item you attach, without asking for any permission, can

• act on your control inputs,
• animate your avatar,
• rack your camera,
• control your camera, and
• teleport you.

The only things Experiences can do in addition are change environment settings and force your avatar to sit on another object (which aren't especially common nor disruptive, but they are useful for some effects).

These are not exotic things, and can be readily disabled in the viewer—not really different from removing an attachment.

But more importantly, actually abusive Experiences can be reported and disabled in one stroke by the Lab. That's a lot more control than they can readily exercise over all instances of an abusive attachment.

I think at this point you are being deliberately obtuse. Seems I touched a nerve. Not my fault this whole idea is invasive and inappropriate. 

You know its not the same. I have never worn a scripted item that has changed my environment settings. And everything is revoked when you remove it. 

However, these scripts take more permissions and can engage them at any time in any place. Detaching an object will not revoke this. Who is going to bother fiddling around in the viewer preferences every time they visit a store or something? Nobody.

 

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3 hours ago, Theresa Tennyson said:

 

What you were asking for? In that other thread? That's what "experiences" do. That's why they exist.

 

 

Seriously what are you smoking? 

Nice attempt at scoping my posts for some dirt to throw at me but its not even close to the same thing.

Sit down, you're embarrassing yourself 

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1 hour ago, Zalificent Corvinus said:

People SHOULD be wary of what experiences they accept. Not everyone who writes experience code is a "nice person of good intent", some are goose stepping little fascists, who think THEIR art/creativity/spewtube lolz video/whatever outweighs everyone else's personal preferences.

 

I think this is the core of the argument. Giving up control of so much to a person who you don't know that could use this on you in the future.
I mean, lets look at the actual conditions one by one:

Once permission is granted you will not see this message again for this experience unless it is revoked from the experience profile.

So we can expect to lose control over our actions anytime in the future, unless we manually revoke each and every permission.

Scripts associated with this experience will be able to do the following on regions where the experience is active: 

And not just in the location we accepted these requests. Literally anywhere on the grid that has one of the same experience scripts.

Then we get to the actual level of control they have:

    Act on your control inputs
    Animate your avatar
    Attach to your avatar
    Track your camera
    Control your camera
    Teleport you
    Force your avatar to sit
    Change your environment settings

I mean, come on. Who in their right mind would allow all of this at any time and in any place? Its basically losing control over your whole sl. Its possible you could be on another sim minding your own business and randomly your avatar would do its own thing, deform, start wearing attachments, tp somewhere you didn't choose and be forced to sit on some object!

Is this OK?

HELL NO!

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I've been away from SL for a while and coming back these seem to be everywhere. 

Instead of "sit to tp" there's this new system that asks for lots of permissions. Is anyone else put off by this list?

 

Once permission is granted you will not see this message again for this experience unless it is revoked from the experience profile.

Scripts associated with this experience will be able to do the following on regions where the experience is active: 

    Act on your control inputs
    Animate your avatar
    Attach to your avatar
    Track your camera
    Control your camera
    Teleport you
    Force your avatar to sit
    Change your environment settings
Is this OK?

Sounds like once you give your perms to this object, anything owned by the creator - anywhere on the whole grid would be able to do all those things in the list.

Personally I don't like that.

[Tattoo layers, stupid Q]

13 minutes ago, Orwar said:

   You don't, unless your body has 'the other arm' on a separate channel (i.e. uses a universal layer), or uses a UV map where each arm is individually mapped (the standard SLUV has it mirrored, and most bodies AFAIK use the SLUV). 

oh..well thats crap lol. Thanks anyway

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Easy for most, except I never made tattoos.

I have a template and made one for upper arm, but its on both arms. I only want one. How?

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Hmm, seems like there's a gap in lsl for this  

Apart from my use.. think of people making doors, or obstacles that needed to be pushed harder to move. Would be great for rp sims - having to get another person to help or it won't budge , etc

[I'd like to measure the strength of a physical push]

hmm, actually that doesn't seem to work. It only measures the force being applied to the prim, not a push from another object hitting it

[I'd like to measure the strength of a physical push]

That looks perfect, thank you. Just having a brain fart and couldn't think of what i needed

[I'd like to measure the strength of a physical push]

As above really. I need to make a simple cube that will measure how much force is pushing on it. The cobe won't move and cannot be phantom, etc.

Just can't figure out what will measure this

 

Help pls

[Scripts comminucating with each other.. how many ways are there?]

 

Well to be honest, if the scripts were moddable i'd be able to work it out for myself! D'uh

[Scripts comminucating with each other.. how many ways are there?]

I want to find out how these scripts are working. How is one having an affect on the other when i cannot see any linked or chat messages between them

[Scripts comminucating with each other.. how many ways are there?]

Sorry, I can't post it as it's not my script. I was trying to find out how it was done

[Scripts comminucating with each other.. how many ways are there?]

I looked through that list and nothing stands out really.

It's weird, I have 2 scripts. When one is used on it's own, it behaves one way. but when the 2nd is added, the whole machine works differently. Yet I cannot find any communications going between them. I've scanned for linked messages and chat, but nothing is there

[Scripts comminucating with each other.. how many ways are there?]

hmm, they would require a web server though? Don't think it's that...

 

Basically, i have 2 scripts that comminucate. i.e. one has an affect on the other, but I've checked for linked messages and chat, nothing is happening

[Scripts comminucating with each other.. how many ways are there?]

 

Ok, I know of 2, but suspect I'm missing something. 

I'm aware of linked messages, or simply making one script 'say' and the other 'listen'. But is there any other way 2 scripts could communicate, or one script could be affected by another?

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