TatianaD Grigorovich
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46 minutes ago, CaithLynnSayes said:
OP, I've read through these 4 pages now and by now it should be obvious to you. In case it isn't, allow me to do what your parents probably didn't do for you.
Many people here have pointed out very clearly that you can not control what other people do/see. I'm going to quote something for the Britannica Dictionary that you probably won't like, but you should not dismiss it but actually think about it. Let me first be absolutely clear to you and anyone reading, i am not calling you any names, ok? According to the Britannica Dictionary: "a way of organizing a society in which a government ruled by a dictator controls the lives of the people." - The word explained here is Fascism.
I am not saying you are one, but i am pointing out that what you want, to control what other people see, is leaning towards that pretty strongly. - I find your mental gymnastics pretty amusing. You seem very keen on controlling what other people see in SL and you've tried a few gotchas by stating that nobody has given a reason why you should not be able to hide your avatar. Several people have explained it very well, and one (i forget the name, sorry) has hit the nail on the head in SL's case. Please pay attention because i will explain it once again. The number one reason why you as a user are not in control of weather another individual can or can't see "your" avatar is because the ability to hide oneself from another would be a griefer's wet dream. This is why LL would never allow this to be a functionality within SL.
The fact that you can not understand why you will never be able to hide yourself from someone else is a 100% you-problem. I would even go as far as to say a behavior-problem. I'm not saying this to belittle you. Not in the slightest. I'm saying this in the (probably, vain) hope you would understand what it is you are wanting here.
Several people have, even with pictures from elementary school, explained why you should not worry about what other people do, but worry what you yourself can control. You have stated a couple of times that you should be able to control the visibility of your avatar to others in this "fantasy" world. I personally think this is a very unhealthy way to look at things. Even if this may be a "fantasy" world, it is a dangerously wrong perception of reality. SL is a form of reality because the avatars you interact with or see here do have real people behind it. (unless you try to talk to a bot, obviously).
So i don't expect you to suddenly see the light and agree with me or with anyone here that has replies so far or will after me. But i do hold some kind of hope in my heart that eventually, with time, you will be able to reflect on this and see that what you wanted here is simply not how the world works, real or make-belief.
All the best to you.
do so love being spoken down to....
So interesting that so many people do not see any validity in my point....wonder what kind of people they are that they do not want people to be able to hide from them, whether it is possible or not-
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35 minutes ago, CaithLynnSayes said:
I would also like to add: You speak of "your avatar". Sorry to break it to you, but it isn't. It is not your avatar. It is LL's and LL allows you to use it for as long as they like. Additionally, the bits you've bought to put "your" avatar together are most likely other people's Intellectual property, unless you've made it yourself. So again, Not your avatar.
Just thought i'd point that out too.
I take it you were talking to everyone on every forum then? They all seem to say "my avatar"... I'll just have a little yawn now
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4 hours ago, Rowan Amore said:
I think at this point, we can all mute the OP inworld as I'm sure she's done the same to us. Therefore, she will get her wish. She can't see us, we can't see her. Merry Christmas!
Perfect - go ahead and do that & I will be very happy to have you gone from my existence
Actually non of the respondents are yet on my mute/derender list as I have found their replies interesting & curious but not offensive, but you can be the first if you like....
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4 hours ago, Sam1 Bellisserian said:
Ah, what a delightful person you are! I can't imagine anyone ever being rude and abusive toward you.
Thank you for the grammar lesson but I used it in the way I intended.
it was a vocabulary hint not a grammar lesson (vocabulary is about words and grammar is about how to use them) & whilst you may have intended to use the word that way it made no sense in the way that you used it. *smiles
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18 minutes ago, Lindal Kidd said:
It seems to me that one of the necessary skills of club staff is the ability to handle annoying people. Perhaps the OP should study the Art of the Snappy Comeback.
usually a quick way to upset the management who are concerned about footfall, believe me I have thought of this
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18 hours ago, Sam1 Bellisserian said:
I would imagine saying "hi" to you might mean someone is being rude and abusive. But what you are wanting can't be done so continuing to argue about how you should have the right to do so is a mute point.
why would you imagine that?
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5 minutes ago, Solar Legion said:
Point blank: You only have control over your own end. You do not get to dictate how/when others see your avatar. At all. Beginning and end.
You mute and block, then move on with your (Second) Life. If they can still see you so what? It is irrelevant/immaterial.
No reasoning is required - at all.
I find it interesting that there are so many people on here supporting the idea that rude and abusive people should still be allowed to see any avi that they want despite having been rude or abusive to that avi.
In rl there would be court orders preventing proximity so what is the harm in the easy option of stopping their avi seeing another avi
Derender should mean that I am derendered in their life too-
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1 minute ago, Claireschen Hesten said:
If you don't want certain people to be able to see you SL is a big place hang out where they don't, Might not be ideal to start with but you'd get used to it
so I hide away because of their rudeness?
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1 minute ago, LittleMe Jewell said:
I want to win a huge lottery and retire right now, but that sure doesn't mean I'm going to get it.
If you cannot see them and they cannot actually interact with you, then it should be very easy for you to fantasize that they do not exist at all and therefore cannot see you.
Maybe you need to work on your fantasizing.
nope, you are still not providing a reason why I can't banish them from my online existence
Arranging so an avi can be blocked from seeing another avi should be a simple thing for LL, only seen one valid reason why it should not happen so far-
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5 minutes ago, Rolig Loon said:
We can debate rationales as much as you like, of course. In the end, the simple answer to the initial question is "No, you can't do that." No amount of wishing will change that.
perhaps that should change then, it is a fantasy world & we each have our own life there so cutting others out of it would be a good thing?
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5 minutes ago, Rowan Amore said:
"My purpose in SL is to share my gorgeousness with the other AVIs in our second world, I do this through just by being here and by emoting"
Apparently only those you choose?
Because your rights end when they would infringe on someone else's rights. Them seeing YOU effects you in no way. If you got your way, what YOU wanted would effect THEIR SL. Not cool at all.
of course there are those who do not possess the sense of humour to see a tongue-in-cheek profile....
Yes I believe in everyone's absolute right in sl to hide their avi from anyone who has been rude or abusive towards them, why wouldn't you?
It's my avi so they can see anyone they please except me - like blocking abusers from my rl phone & email or from getting within a mile of me.
I do not understand why anyone would have an issue with that, I am not interfering with their life just with their ability to interact with me
What would really not be cool is if you had personal concerns about people blocking you. -
1 minute ago, Rowan Amore said:
But maybe they want YOU in their fantasy life whether you can see them or not. Works both ways.
I have no problem with that at all, they can want but why should they have if I dont want it as well
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26 minutes ago, Modulated said:
I'm curious why you think that blocking and de-rendering them isn't enough? Besides, as someone already stated , you can only control what YOU see or hear in SL.
Because I wish to deprive them of my existence & appearance in sl, they are rude & ignorant & I don't want them seeing me
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4 minutes ago, LittleMe Jewell said:
And again, I ask: If you cannot see them or hear them or see their chat, etc... why would it matter if they can still see you? They cannot actually interact with you.
Because it is what I want, I want them gone from my fantasy life.
I want many things - the why is not the point, the point is that I would like to do it & do not see why I cannot (excepting MM's reasoning above)-
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1 minute ago, Madelaine McMasters said:
You can't hide yourself. That would be a massive exploit for griefers. Imagine if I wanted to harass a sim, all I'd have to do is block everyone I see on it and I'd become invisible. I could then wander around interacting with all the objects while everyone else scratches their heads and wonders what the hell has gone wrong.
Just now, Madelaine McMasters said:You can't hide yourself. That would be a massive exploit for griefers. Imagine if I wanted to harass a sim, all I'd have to do is block everyone I see on it and I'd become invisible. I could then wander around interacting with all the objects while everyone else scratches their heads and wonders what the hell has gone wrong.
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Just now, LittleMe Jewell said:
But you should not have control over their world and what they see.
If you cannot see them or hear them or see their chat, etc... why would it matter if they can still see you?
why in a fantasy world should I not be able to control who sees me?
I dance in Sl & do not want rude people seeing my avi if I have blocked them, they can look at everyone else-
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there should be, if I dont want someone in my world I should be able to totally block them
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If I mute & derender (as I do sometimes) idiots on sl I cannot see or hear them but I do not wish them to see me or be part of my sl, is there anything I can do to stop them seeing my avi?
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Thank you all, updating my viewer (Cool) seems to have cured the issue but all the suggestions have given me valuable information for the future & it is lovely to know that patient support is here in times of trouble.
HUGS!!! Tati
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hi everyone
My avi will not rezz & when I went to character test & tried to default to a "ruth" it said the GND eyebrow shaper & eyes were missing.
Can anyone help a non geek poledancer to find herself again please?
Thank you
Tati
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I love having a last name, it helps define the character - I would hate to be called "resident"
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How am I controlling their Sl, they have have their own cyber existence certainly but they have no absolute right to see me?
I am trying to control MY SL by removing myself from the vision of those who wish me malice, SL is a fantasy world where that should be possible as long as I cause no harm or grief.