[Default 'Limited Quantities' Checkbox Stuck Checked in Marketplace Searches]

45 minutes ago, Flea Yatsenko said:

Trying to play such a political angle and stuff because a search default was changed that harms your business. Gacha harms a lot of content creators who depend on market place and ranking highly because they have no chance of competing with the raw amount of listings. I mean it's awfully transparent what's going on here.

Gacha is harmful to new users who don't understand what gacha is or limited quantity items. Specially when they are marketed in search to appear as new products. Gacha resellers can not provide any sort of support for their items since they aren't the original creators. So any new or under-educated users who have issues get zero support when they would have some if they bought directly from a creator. Several gacha listings are not entirely even clear they are gacha and can be confusing even for experienced users.

Gacha is a special type of transaction on the marketplace, it should be opt in because it has different rules and behavior from traditional marketplace transactions and items. Search should be tailored to new users and people who do not understand how to use the search engine effectively by using things like boolean search, limiting search results, etc. It's actually not very fair to users who don't know any better to include them in default search results. I would even argue it borderlines on predatory, having a gacha trying to appear as a standard product. Not all gacha resellers are like that but a quick search shows most listings are basically telling the customer they get absolutely zero support for a product that's not even created by the seller.

If anything limited quantity shouldn't be shown by default, but the wording should be changed. It should say "include in results" and have a checkbox for limited items and demo items, with any listing with a demo item showing it has a demo on the search results page. Someone who wants to find a gacha should enable the setting to find gacha items, and someone who doesn't know what gacha is or doesn't want it shouldn't have to change their settings. Gacha has been basically forced on people using search before this change.

I know how you feel, I have websites and have to deal with web search engines. They make changes that drastically affect what happens to a website's rankings all the time. But a search engine's highest priority is to given the most relevant and quality results with as little effort to the user as possible.

 

45 minutes ago, Flea Yatsenko said:

Trying to play such a political angle and stuff because a search default was changed that harms your business. Gacha harms a lot of content creators who depend on market place and ranking highly because they have no chance of competing with the raw amount of listings. I mean it's awfully transparent what's going on here.

Gacha is harmful to new users who don't understand what gacha is or limited quantity items. Specially when they are marketed in search to appear as new products. Gacha resellers can not provide any sort of support for their items since they aren't the original creators. So any new or under-educated users who have issues get zero support when they would have some if they bought directly from a creator. Several gacha listings are not entirely even clear they are gacha and can be confusing even for experienced users.

Gacha is a special type of transaction on the marketplace, it should be opt in because it has different rules and behavior from traditional marketplace transactions and items. Search should be tailored to new users and people who do not understand how to use the search engine effectively by using things like boolean search, limiting search results, etc. It's actually not very fair to users who don't know any better to include them in default search results. I would even argue it borderlines on predatory, having a gacha trying to appear as a standard product. Not all gacha resellers are like that but a quick search shows most listings are basically telling the customer they get absolutely zero support for a product that's not even created by the seller.

If anything limited quantity shouldn't be shown by default, but the wording should be changed. It should say "include in results" and have a checkbox for limited items and demo items, with any listing with a demo item showing it has a demo on the search results page. Someone who wants to find a gacha should enable the setting to find gacha items, and someone who doesn't know what gacha is or doesn't want it shouldn't have to change their settings. Gacha has been basically forced on people using search before this change.

Once again, this doesn't just affect gacha resellers. It affects anyone who sells their creations in limited quantities or as one-off specials (such as limited edition artwork. Yes, they are on there!) . It is not just gacha resellers that this will cause exposure issues for.

[Default 'Limited Quantities' Checkbox Stuck Checked in Marketplace Searches]

I fail to see why someone would decide to respond to a diplomatic and open-minded post like Tessa's with a laughing emoji. There really is no compromise and pleasant discourse out there anymore is there.

[Default 'Limited Quantities' Checkbox Stuck Checked in Marketplace Searches]

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People who don't even create content and instead just resell gacha items have been actively harming original content creators by doing things like creating stores with thousands of listings that a content creator has to compete with in search results.

Many creators made those gachas in the first place! That is one heck of a lot of advertising. Also, what is wrong with people who don't create content selling limited items that they bought from those creators in the first place?? If the creators find it unfair, why on earth did they make gachas? Still do, in fact! Just vendored a different way now.  Resellers like Tessa and others here took a hit when they banned gachas as they were presented before, but they soldiered on for the love of the items and for many of them for a way to make SL money. Not all of us can be as talented as we'd like to be. Creators know that gacha / limited collectors items will be resold either on marketplace or in-world. Before, people could move their mouse and tick "Do not show limited items" if they felt bile rising in their throats at seeing gacha being sold. Problem solved.

Now? Now, ALL people selling items that are limited will not appear by default. How is that fair to the underdog?
This means that all artists selling original art pieces in marketplace listings, most of whom do limited copies or only one in special cases, no longer have a fair representation of their products on marketplace from default first search. Gachas are not the only product that is limited quantities. A terrible blow for those that make their living creating things to lift others up.

[Default 'Limited Quantities' Checkbox Stuck Checked in Marketplace Searches]

Why on earth did they do that?? What was the reason for the creator who petitioned on Change.org to change it? Was the full impact of that change considered from all angles?

I suspect it may have been due to those revolting creatures 'copybots', who have made many wonderful creators' lives hell by stealing their work and selling it as legitimate on marketplace. The problem there is that all of us that spent tens of thousands of real dollars over the years and want to sell 'second hand' items (whether gacha or not) on the marketplace will now have a massive exposure drop!

Clearly this wasn't thought about from both sides properly. Charming  
No wonder your sales had dropped off Tessa, I am so sorry to hear about all of this. You work 8 to 10 hours A DAY on your business, it's your job. I am hoping something can be done about it soon. xox

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