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11 minutes ago, Alan Cyr said:

What about this as posted above? https://www.abc.ca.gov/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/Law-Enforcement-Advisory-Illegal-Gambling-Devices-1.pdf

read the flowchart .. Anything that has a value and chance. 

Read my past post again, since trade cards and toys from blind bags have value thanks to collectors... And its a chance on what you get. They are illegal gambling devices .. Like I said you can't pick and choose .. Its all or nothing,

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6 minutes ago, Alan Cyr said:

 

As I understand it, from a strictly legal point of view, there is no difference here. If you can't guarantee you know what you're getting for your money, then that's seen as gambling.

Taking your example, that might be seen as being a bit stupid. And I wouldn’t disagree. But what we have here is a situation where legislators have come up with what could be easily argued as an over-big stick to clamp down on the problems caused by rare items being necessary to progress in a game

(or to complete a collection, or be the only thing worth having).

LL however must run its business inside the regulatory climate as it sees it. That’s just the way that is.
 

 

THING IS you don't need any of the items to progress anywhere in sl CAUSE THERE is no real progression thats the point of the whole toy machine thing. BUYING things from gachas in sl just that .. We don't gain no advantage over anyone, we are not locked behind a pay wall or anything like in actual video games... AND IF THEY want to crack down so hard on this then like I said they need to take out everything related.

 

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Just now, Alan Cyr said:

Thing is, you knew exactly the figures you bought way back in the 90s. That makes it OK. With gachas you don't 100% know what you are paying for, That makes it not OK.

Wrong, did you just pick to read parts of what I said .. i mean I thank you for catching my mistake with the might get thing, but you totally missed the point.

"Gachas are indeed just a quarter machine as we call them mostly here in the states anymore. You get a toy (or in this cause a item) and it could be something of value at one point like any collectable. (which the figures we used to get in the 90s being moved to blind bags now and costing way more)" 

I had my insert on the machine just like the gachas in world has a picture of what you might get. It was a always a chance of my quarter crank if I was going to get a figure I haven't gotten yet or a dupe .. However unlike sl I had no one to give them to or trade with cause I was the only kid into these things. 

Now said figures like I said have been put into blind bags instead of the quarter machines 
 

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1 minute ago, Alan Cyr said:

Might get.

It's not guaranteed, therefore you're taking a chance. That's gambling.

True, thanks for catching my oops

But here is the counter point, item is still saleable (vs lootbox game stuff that is not), and the worth it up to the person really. Will my box of figures from the 90s ever become something worth money? Maybe, maybe not .. So with that logic in place any object your taking a chance on buying rather its through a chance system or not is gambling cause you won't know if it has resell value down the road

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People are missing the point over all 

Gachas are indeed just a quarter machine as we call them mostly here in the states anymore. You get a toy (or in this cause a item) and it could be something of value at one point like any collectable. (which the figures we used to get in the 90s being moved to blind bags now and costing way more)

Loot boxes got branded as gachas cause mobile companies wanted to be slick and try to trick people... And frankly it worked as I see so many in this thread trying to link gacha and loot boxes together .. WHICH are different even though there is still a chance for said items.

Gachas have always been up front with a insert or picture of what you get

Loot boxes unless themed had to be datamined to see what was inside.



So if we are going to ban what a gacha really is cause of the loot box crazy cause parents can't take care of their kids in a proper manner and just toss them in front of a computer (Some of our parents did this with tv mind you) then everything related need to go (blind bags/trading cards/etc) and we just not have fun anymore.




 

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I was taking a person shopping he wants a fur av, Now I see why it wasn't working. 

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Same here, I wonder what broke this time