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Ok, for those of you here into bdsm I have a question. what are your feelings about 'training' a sub/slave? What I meant is I was in a group where a master said they needed to 'train' their slave not to use a certain word, so they were looking for a script for use with rlv to 'train' them to stop saying that word so much. Now, of course, I don't know if the slave wanted them to or consented to such 'training' or not but it just sort of crossed me as a little strange almost if as that master was being domineering and less as a dominant/master to me I would think they would just need to ask/tell them to stop using the word. if they are a real sub/slave and have submitted they would do so without the need of any rlv enforced 'training'. if not they are not really submitting or consenting and maybe they need to have a talk about it and why. at which point any forced 'training' could be a form of manipulation or abuse. now, of course, the sub/slave would have to add it to their collar on their own for it to be able to be used on them(which could be taken as consent), but some sub'slaves can be manipulated into doing things that they might not really consent or want to be done because they think they have to obey everything without any choice at all or be considered a bad/failed sub/slave. bdsm is about consent and communication and trust, even if being a slave. it just seems that many dominants or 'masters' don't think it is. it feels as if many dominants have become obsessed over the power of rlv and how they use it without any real consideration of what their sub/slave wants or has consented to. that they think just because someone has put a collar on and added them as owner they have the right to do whatever they want at that point without caring if the sub/slave is comfortable with it or not. that wearing a collar and having rlv on is automatic consent to be treated however the other person wants. so what are your feelings about this? am I maybe just letting my own past experiences colour my perception of what was said or being done?

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