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The access to the IP address of another person with the devices. It would Linden' s illegal or not?

I would like to ask, the access to the IP address of another person with the devices such as Voodoo Sploder or Streaming music,... It would Linden's illegal or not ? Linden should protect the people who playing SL. To keep those devices could not access to the IP addresses of other people.

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Registered: ‎03-20-2009
It's not the fault of second life, this is just how streaming media works on the internet. The provider of any stream has to have your IP address to provide you the stream. However, it IS against TOS for the stream provider to pass this information on, or do anything else with it.
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Innula's answer is correct and the Linden Lab Privacy statement states these warnings:


Information Displayed to or Collected By Other Users

Certain account information is displayed to other users in your Second Life profile, and may be available through automated script calls and application program interfaces. This information includes your account name, account type, the date your account was established, whether or not you are currently online, user rating information, group and partner information, and whether or not you have established a payment account or transaction history with Linden Lab. Further, you agree and understand that Linden Lab does not control and is not responsible for information, privacy or security practices concerning data that you provide to, or that may otherwise be collected by, Second Life users other than Linden Lab.  For instance, some services operated by Second Life users may provide content that is accessed through and located on third party (non-Linden Lab) servers that may log IP addresses.


Linden Lab's Protection and Disclosure of Your Information

Except under certain limited circumstances set forth here and in our Terms of Service ("Terms of Service"), Linden Lab does not disclose to third parties the personal information or other account-related information you provide us, such as IP address, without your permission. You understand, however, that Linden Lab may disclose your personal or other account-related information under the following circumstances:

  • If we believe in good faith that such disclosure is necessary under applicable law, or to comply with legal process served on Linden Lab;
  • In order to protect and defend the rights or interests of Linden Lab, Second Life or the users of Second Life;
  • In order to report to law enforcement authorities, or assist in their investigation of, suspected illegal or wrongful activity, or to report any instance in which we believe a person may be in danger;
  • To service providers with whom we have contracted to assist us with Second Life features or operations (such as anti-fraud functions, billing, collections, registration, customer support, email delivery, age verification or LindeX operations), to fulfill your service requests, offer new content or help us improve our Service.  Our contracts with these third parties prohibit them from using any of your personal information for purposes unrelated to the product or service they are providing;
  • To other third parties (a) to provide you with services you have requested, (b) to offer you information about our Service (e.g., events or features), or (c) to whom you explicitly ask us to send your information (or about whom you are otherwise explicitly notified and consent to when using a specific service).  For instance, we may provide certain information to our payment processor, to credit card associations, banks or issuers (if you are using a credit card), to PayPal (if you are using a PayPal account), or to providers of other services you request. If you choose to use these third parties' products or services, then their use of your information is governed by their privacy policies.  You should evaluate the practices of third party providers before deciding to use their services; and
  • To other business entities, should we plan to merge with or be acquired by that business entity. Should such a combination occur, we will require that the new combined entity follow this Privacy Policy with respect to your personal information. If your personal information will be used contrary to this policy, you will receive prior notice.


Third Party Advertisements

Linden Lab participates in ad and/or affiliate networks operated by various third party companies.  These companies collect and may use certain anonymous information about your visits to our Websites as a function of referring Internet traffic to our Websites.  We do not permit these companies to collect any personal information about you, such as your name, address, or email address; however, we do permit these companies to collect your IP address.  These companies may set and use cookies, web beacons, pixels, or other technologies to collect anonymous information about your visits to our Websites, and may otherwise aggregate, analyze and anonymize that data.  If you seek information about these specialized advertising technologies, the Network Advertising Initiative offers useful information about Internet advertising companies (also called "ad networks" or "network advertisers"), including information about how to opt-out of their information collection.


The bottom line is that in this modern day and age the expectation that your IP address is private in any way is very naive. LL does clearly state their use of the information it receives in order to give you access to the SL experience. Further, in the TOS LL clearly warns other SL residents about the ramifications of disclosing your private information to other residents in SL. The most they can do is to suspend and banish the account of the violator of this policy from SL.

However, and there is always a however, if your private information is shared by an SL resident outside of SL then LL has no recourse whatsoever. You have to deal with outside of SL violations of your privacy on your own. If they choose to, LL could suspend and banish from SL the offending account in this case but this would be risky from a litigation POV in that LL has no standing in 3rd party privacy matters.

Here is the best possible advise: Never share any of your real life information with anyone in SL. Period.

As of the date of this post, there is no published evidence that a person's privacy has ever been compromised by an internal breach of information in LL.

Your IP address is only a network and loosely geographic number assigned by your ISP . If it is otherwise associated with your real life existence and this is information in the public domain, then you have never had privacy of your identity.


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As I understand it, accessing the IP address outside SL is perfectly OK (and it's hard to imagine how a DJ could stream music to the audience's computers without reference to their IP addresses).   However, using the IP addresses to attempt to identify and publicise people's alts or, indeed, any RL information they don't give on their profile (location, for example) is against the ToS.

Additionally, the conditions under which the information may be stored or shared  may fall under EU data protection law, assuming the person collecting the IP addresses is in the EEA,  if it's tied to something else associated with the person whose IP address it is, like the name or UUID of an avatar they operate in SL.