KirstenLee Viewer Development/Downloads Ended

[Cincia Singh]

KL's blog post announces that, due to RL situation, the end of viewer development and KL has removed the viewer downloads.

[Lynda Klossovsky]

and furthermore, its also true !!!

http://www.kirstensviewer.com/Blog/181/__Sad_Farewell__.html

[Claireschen Hesten]

that is a shame maybe someone will take on the source code for the viewer and continue to develope on whats there for any fans of the viewer

[Jenni Darkwatch]

That pretty much leaves only the official v2/v3 i guess. Sad news, but makes sense for KL to take care of RL first.

[Void Singer]

huh?

Firestorm: V2 Interface (largely customizable), likely to update to V3 code soon

Cool VL: V1 interface, V3 render engine (yes, that's mesh), OpenSim compatible

Astra: V1 interface?, V3 render engine, OpenSim compatible?

Singularity: V1 interface, V3 render on the way, OpenSim compatible

[Maddy Gynoid]

Regarding mesh upload there are only the LL viewers and Kirstens.

[Void Singer]

ah, I believe that should be remedied shortly... I imagine Firestorm will end up using whatever Kirstens was using, or the current LL version (assuming that's allowable), and Henri is holding out for an open source library for it (and knowing him he'll probably write it himself)... the others, I'm not sure, but singularity is likely to port from Henri's.

[Jenni Darkwatch]

v1 isn't an option, that's about as sensible like installing Win3.11 on my PC. Anything from the phoenix/firestorm criminals.... fool me once, shame on me. No 2nd chances for the ex-emerald team.

Edit: Henri's beta does support mesh. Don't know to what degree.

[Void Singer]

viewing/editing only at the moment, no uploads yet. the only thing V1 about Cool is the interface... under the hood it supports almost all the same things (missing a bit of support in multiple alpha layers), and several things LL has yet to incorporate.

ETA:
the other V1 interfaces also have similar feature support, but as noted, no one else has upload support at this time (to my knowledge)

PS
Never trust organizations, only trust individuals... even if you trust every individual in that organization.

[Hitomi Tiponi]

Firestorm Beta 3 (which can view mesh) is now available and that may be of use to those that unfortunately are having to move away from Kirsten's, though please read the blog entry first which points out the various problems that also exist in LL's Viewer.  Details at http://www.phoenixviewer.com/.

[Karma Avedon]

I will hang on to my current Kirstins viewer for as long as i can. In the area of graphics, or simply how the SL world looks on your viewer, this viewer has been head and shoulders above the rest. (Not to mention being able to view  SL in 3D!). V3 has slowly become a good reliable alternative. Kirstin should be applauded for all the hard work and time commited to the project and the commitment to a quality product.

[Linda Brynner]

Awww, her viewers never were a hit for me personally, but that doesn't mean at all of course she had a inferior viewer by all means. It has worked for so many, and it is a shame see her leaving, but yes, RL first of all and SL is just nice to have

I wish her all the best really

[Tristizia Demonista]

Never had the chance to actually USE the Viewer (Compy is simply not good enough), but from what i've seen, it was,  for Graphic enthusiasts,probably the best there is.

Hope the RL probs will work out in the for the two of em!  And all the best wishes. 

[Quinn Lysette]

the kirsten viewer had this zoom thingy when u clicked a persons name to zoom to them how do u enable that in the linden labs viewer ?

[Void Singer]

I'm assuming that you mean from the "nearby" list?

...you don't. that's only available from TPVs

[Quinn Lysette]

ya from nearby list ok so what other viewer has that ?

[Canoro Philipp]

Kirsten was for a long time the only alternative to the official viewer for people that didnt like the viewer 1 experience.

when Phoenix started developing Firestorm it was said that if they wanted to compete in that "league" they would have to be better than Kirsten, and Kirsten had a lot of experience modding Viewer 2, now they have no competition from other third party viewers, i hope that they make good use now that they are the only ones there.

does anybody know about any other third party viewers based on viewer 2/3 around besides Firestorm now that Kirsten has stopped?

[WolfBaginski Bearsfoot]

With the long bug-list extant for V2/V3, and the particular graphics features of Kirstens, not just Mesh support, this is going to hurt.

Kirstens, as far as I can tell, is based on a slightly earlier version of the code than the Linden viewers, and seemed to have dodged whatever killed the V3 frame rate. I was using it to do Mesh uploads.

Kirstens is going to be missed. And, while I'm hopeful about Firestorm, right now it feels as though I might as well give up on Mesh 

[Tristizia Demonista]

You can try Dolphin Viewer 3, it even has Mesh Support now.

http://dolphinviewer.eregion.de/dolphinviewer2/ 

[Void Singer]

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Quinn Lysette wrote:

ya from nearby list ok so what other viewer has that ?

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Phoenix, Cool, Singularity, Imprudence I think, dunno if Firestorm imported it yet..... pretty much most common TPV's have that feature.

[ancient Seraph]

please not that kirsten may be restarted if his crowdfunder project takes off >

http://www.crowdfunder.co.uk/investment/the-kirsten-s-viewer-project-480

and the main thing he will try to put in a new version of kirstens is stereo 3d support which most others arent working on anymore, I personally would like to see SL in stereo with headtracking on a big 42" 1080p high refresh rate 240hz 3d tv, it might make a big difference to immersion ?