Oskar Linden Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 The Region Idling project is being promoted to main channel Tuesday morning. The details are here: - http://community.secondlife.com/t5/Second-Life-Server/Region-Idling-coming-to-Second-Life/td-p/1535485 FAQ here: - http://community.secondlife.com/t5/Second-Life-Server/Region-Idling-FAQ/td-p/1535497. Second Life Server (main channel) The Region Idling project will be promoted here this week. 2012-05-22, 5:00am: Release Notes: https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Release_Notes/Second_Life_Server/12 Second Life RC BlueSteel This channel has server changes to process prebaked avatar textures for library outfits. This will also have the region idling project enabled. 2012-05-23, 7-11:00am: Release Notes: https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Release_Notes/Second_Life_RC_BlueSteel/12 Second Life RC LeTigre This has the Threaded Region Crossing project. This contains the prototype threaded region cross for agents and uses the new threaded RPC/thread state machine mechanism. Look for issues with region crossings. It will also have the Region Idling project enabled. 2012-05-23, 7-11:00am: Release Notes: https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Release_Notes/Second_Life_RC_LeTigre/12 Second Life RC Magnum This contains the same Threaded Region Crossing code as LeTigre. It will also have the Region Idling project enabled. 2012-05-23, 7-11:00am: Release Notes: https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Release_Notes/Second_Life_RC_Magnum/12 We will be monitoring this thread during the next week so please feel free to post issues that you feel have been introduced by the new code. Please file a JIRA for issues you find and post the JIRA link into this thread. It really helps us out. When determining if issues are relevant or not research is key. Tracking down exactly the right situation where an issue is occurring greatly speeds up the development process to get fixes in place. I appreciate your help. Have a good week! __Oskar p.s. If you are interested in helping test SecondLife in beta please join the group "Second Life Beta" in-world. We also have an email list where we communicate upcoming projects and how you can help. (https://lists.secondlife.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/server-beta ) Once a week we meet on ADITI to discuss new features, new bugs, new fixes, and other fun stuff. You are more than welcome. Information is here:https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Server_Beta_User_Group Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emmettcullen93 Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 this looks sweet oskar. got one question thou? bots. how will they affect this they are on the sim constantly never logged out. the region will never go into idling then right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nalates Urriah Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 From what've heard Oskar say in UG's the bots that are AI controlled avatars will prevent region idling. I have a number of quotes from Oskar in SL News Week 20 and Update Week 20. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emmettcullen93 Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayesha Askham Posted May 22, 2012 Share Posted May 22, 2012 I don't like doing this...but...is the Main Channel Roll happening? Again, there is nothing on the Grid Status Page about it...it should've started an hour ago! What gives? PS I didn't have to log in again to post! Edit: It is now 20:45hr BST and according to the Grid Status Page there has been no Main Channel Roll. This is ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oskar Linden Posted May 22, 2012 Author Share Posted May 22, 2012 Ayesha Askham wrote: I don't like doing this...but...is the Main Channel Roll happening? Again, there is nothing on the Grid Status Page about it...it should've started an hour ago! What gives? PS I didn't have to log in again to post! Edit: It is now 20:45hr BST and according to the Grid Status Page there has been no Main Channel Roll. This is ridiculous. It's a configuration only change. It's live now. __Oskar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayesha Askham Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 Um..OK Oskar I'm not sure I fully understand, but I hear what you say. Your original post appeared to say that there was to be a Main-Server Roll yesterday, and a Roll for us on LeTiggywinkle today. Seems not.:matte-motes-confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emmettcullen93 Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 Oskar Linden wrote: The Region Idling project is being promoted to main channel Tuesday morning. The details are here: - http://community.secondlife.com/t5/Second-Life-Server/Region-Idling-coming-to-Second-Life/td-p/1535485 FAQ here: - http://community.secondlife.com/t5/Second-Life-Server/Region-Idling-FAQ/td-p/1535497. Second Life Server (main channel) The Region Idling project will be promoted here this week. 2012-05-22, 5:00am: Release Notes: https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Release_Notes/Second_Life_Server/12 Second Life RC BlueSteel This channel has server changes to process prebaked avatar textures for library outfits. This will also have the region idling project enabled. 2012-05-23, 7-11:00am: Release Notes: https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Release_Notes/Second_Life_RC_BlueSteel/12 Second Life RC LeTigre This has the Threaded Region Crossing project. This contains the prototype threaded region cross for agents and uses the new threaded RPC/thread state machine mechanism. Look for issues with region crossings. It will also have the Region Idling project enabled. 2012-05-23, 7-11:00am: Release Notes: https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Release_Notes/Second_Life_RC_LeTigre/12 Second Life RC Magnum This contains the same Threaded Region Crossing code as LeTigre. It will also have the Region Idling project enabled. 2012-05-23, 7-11:00am: Release Notes: https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Release_Notes/Second_Life_RC_Magnum/12 We will be monitoring this thread during the next week so please feel free to post issues that you feel have been introduced by the new code. Please file a JIRA for issues you find and post the JIRA link into this thread. It really helps us out. When determining if issues are relevant or not research is key. Tracking down exactly the right situation where an issue is occurring greatly speeds up the development process to get fixes in place. I appreciate your help. Have a good week! __Oskar p.s. If you are interested in helping test SecondLife in beta please join the group "Second Life Beta" in-world. We also have an email list where we communicate upcoming projects and how you can help. (https://lists.secondlife.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/server-beta ) Once a week we meet on ADITI to discuss new features, new bugs, new fixes, and other fun stuff. You are more than welcome. Information is here:https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Server_Beta_User_Group i have no clue what this means honestly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marianne McCann Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 With RC PF Starting to become more common on Agni, will we start to see any deploy information for it as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oskar Linden Posted May 23, 2012 Author Share Posted May 23, 2012 Ayesha Askham wrote: Um..OK Oskar I'm not sure I fully understand, but I hear what you say. Your original post appeared to say that there was to be a Main-Server Roll yesterday, and a Roll for us on LeTiggywinkle today. Seems not.:matte-motes-confused: The code on LeTigre is also a configuration file deploy. That means that the region doesn't need to be restarted to see the changes. Also the simulator version number doesn't change. __Oskar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oskar Linden Posted May 23, 2012 Author Share Posted May 23, 2012 emmettcullen93 wrote: Oskar Linden wrote: The Region Idling project is being promoted to main channel Tuesday morning. The details are here: i have no clue what this means honestly. It is a guide to the changes that are happening to the systems that run Second Life this week. __Oskar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emmettcullen93 Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 ok ty Oskar. i wasnt sure as i dont know much about server issues. thank you again for clarifying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oskar Linden Posted May 23, 2012 Author Share Posted May 23, 2012 emmettcullen93 wrote: ok ty Oskar. i wasnt sure as i dont know much about server issues. thank you again for clarifying. You're welcome. Most people use this post as a way to see what changes are happening to the regions each week. For example you can see that there are changes to region crossing code in the LeTigre and Magnum regions. If you were experiencing issues teleporting or crossing regions in places that had that code you would know that it might be because of the changes. You can tell which code your region is running by going to Help -> About Second Life. __Oskar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emmettcullen93 Posted May 23, 2012 Share Posted May 23, 2012 o i understand now. cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfBaginski Bearsfoot Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 Oskar, this sort of change maybe should be described in a slightly different way. In the current notice there is an ambiguity between a roll-out of new code, and just switching a function on. I know I was expecting more restarts, and the status announcement was a bit of a surprise to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oskar Linden Posted May 24, 2012 Author Share Posted May 24, 2012 WolfBaginski Bearsfoot wrote: Oskar, this sort of change maybe should be described in a slightly different way. In the current notice there is an ambiguity between a roll-out of new code, and just switching a function on. I know I was expecting more restarts, and the status announcement was a bit of a surprise to me. That's a good point Wolf. This is the first time we've been able to do something like this. I'll try to communicate clearly next time. __Oskar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deej Kasshiki Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 Oskar thanks for taking the time to read and respond to this thread and for keeping us informed about the server side changes. Your posts are much appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nalates Urriah Posted May 25, 2012 Share Posted May 25, 2012 The Lindens deal with these things everyday and have years. I think it is some times difficult for them to realize how much information they are assuming when they write a post explanning what they are doing. I am sure I have the same problem. I hope I'm a level or two below their geek level explanations. I won't say that I always get it right, but I try to write a geek to human translation of these events in my blog. I run a bit behind these posts. But, I include information form other developement teams too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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