Pamela Galli Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 Ebbe says that the focus of Sansar will be creators and also that there be a Mac version "down the road sometime". I am wondering what percentage of creators use Mac.Check out this survey and vote https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/FN97S3R You can see the results here https://www.surveymonkey.com/results/SM-FKTQWL3W/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikka Luik Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 Neither Ok, more seriously, mix of PC and Ubuntu (in whatever variants are my flavours of the month, currently studio and mint 17). Win 10 finally cured me of single OS reliance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaze Nielsen Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 Might be interesting to qualify content creators as hobbyists versus professionals. I think the pros are more likely to convert their products for Sansar. Might give you a clearer picture of the platform more high end content creators are using. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamela Galli Posted March 15, 2016 Author Share Posted March 15, 2016 Far be it for me to make that distinction, but I fixed it to say creator/merchants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madelaine McMasters Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 Pamela Galli wrote: Ebbe says that the focus of Sansar will be creators and also that there will only a Mac version down the road sometime. I am wondering what percentage of creators use Mac. Check out this survey and vote https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/FN97S3R I'm not sure I understand you, Pamela. Did Ebbe sat there will only be a Mac version down the road sometime? That seems odd, as PCs still dominate the market, even if not so much in the creative space. Or did he say that a Mac version will become available down the road sometime? That's less odd. It's not uncommon for developers to ignore the Mac initially. I ticked "Mac" in your survey, though I'd hardly be the sort of creator Sansar is said to target. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamela Galli Posted March 15, 2016 Author Share Posted March 15, 2016 Madelaine McMasters wrote: Pamela Galli wrote: Ebbe says that the focus of Sansar will be creators and also that there will only a Mac version down the road sometime. I am wondering what percentage of creators use Mac. Check out this survey and vote https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/FN97S3R I'm not sure I understand you, Pamela. Did Ebbe sat there will only be a Mac version down the road sometime? That seems odd, as PCs still dominate the market, even if not so much in the creative space. Or did he say that a Mac version will become available down the road sometime? That's less odd. It's not uncommon for developers to ignore the Mac initially. I ticked "Mac" in your survey, though I'd hardly be the sort of creator Sansar is said to target. Yes that was clunky, fixed. I read in the comments on NWN that someone went through 100 Steam games and 90+% had both OS's, and 90+% of those debuted with both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whirly Fizzle Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 For Firestorm users, all users, not specificically creators: ~ 1% use Linux. ~ 10% use Mac The rest are Windows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamela Galli Posted March 15, 2016 Author Share Posted March 15, 2016 Whirly Fizzle wrote: For Firestorm users, all users, not specificically creators: ~ 1% use Linux. ~ 10% use Mac The rest are Windows. Thanks -- that is about what I would have guessed. I have a little impression that creators may be a little higher (since we are silly impractical dreamers with our heads -- um, in the clouds -- not unlike Mac users). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaze Nielsen Posted March 15, 2016 Share Posted March 15, 2016 (since we are silly impractical dreamers with our heads -- um, in the clouds -- not unlike Mac users) I think you should speak for yourself regarding the head in the clouds comment Pamela. In the world of content creation Mac has always ruled and still does for quite practical reasons. The preference of Mac among professional content creators is extremely high. I agree it is something Linden Lab should consider very seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamela Galli Posted March 15, 2016 Author Share Posted March 15, 2016 That was a facetious attempt at pre-empting the usual characterizations of Mac users. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlotte Bartlett Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 As a bit more information also for creators who aren't using Blender. 3ds Max is PC only. Maya PC and Mac. I will fill in too - I use Mac but have Parellels for window only apps - so no issue for me if no Mac version initially. Parellels is fairly cost effective with Windows 10. Gives me the benefit of the hardware and OS I prefer for 90pct of my time, and when I am forced into Windows I have the capabilitiy from my Mac. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradford Mint Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 In what was does a Mac lead in content creation and for what obvious reasons? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamela Galli Posted March 16, 2016 Author Share Posted March 16, 2016 Bradford Mint wrote: In what was does a Mac lead in content creation and for what obvious reasons? Well here we go, as predicted. For interesting results, Google " why do designers prefer Mac" . Then Google "why do designers prefer PC". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradford Mint Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 Well apparently it's obvious so having to search for an answer seems unnecessary? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madelaine McMasters Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 Bradford Mint wrote: Well apparently it's obvious so having to search for an answer seems unnecessary? Bradford, Pamela gave you two Google search strings to try, so why are you wondering if searching is necessary? Do the search and comment on the results. If you don't like the results, craft a new search that supports your views and bring that to us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamela Galli Posted March 16, 2016 Author Share Posted March 16, 2016 This is not a thread about why Mac is better than PC -- but I have yet to see anyone mention that they use Mac that the PC brigade did not show up to tell us why we are stupid, sheeplike, and wrong to do so. So, go ahead. Get it over with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradford Mint Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 No need to search is there? Blaze said it's obvious. I'm asking why but if someone wants to make such a claim, be prepared to substantiate. Maybe back in the mid 1990's there were platform and software differences that favoured Mac. I don't see why there's any difference these days beyond personal choice and I fully support that. When it's inferred that I've not made the obvious favoured choice to use a particular solution, educate me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madelaine McMasters Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 C'mon Pamela. Admit it. Just like me, you get perverse pleasure out of other people's misplaced condescension. All you have to do is walk through one of your own SL creations to know you know what you're doing. I love your wool coat, btw. ;-). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamela Galli Posted March 16, 2016 Author Share Posted March 16, 2016 I don't see anyone anyone implying or stating that anything is obvious. You misread. Just go ahead and finish the obligatory rant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madelaine McMasters Posted March 16, 2016 Share Posted March 16, 2016 Bradford Mint wrote: No need to search is there? Blaze said it's obvious. I'm asking why but if someone wants to make such a claim, be prepared to substantiate. Maybe back in the mid 1990's there were platform and software differences that favoured Mac. I don't see why there's any difference these days beyond personal choice and I fully support that. When it's inferred that I've not made the obvious favoured choice to use a particular solution, educate me... Although I'm a lifelong Mac user. I do not evangelize. I like what I like, and I don't always know why. I'm happy for you to do the same. I think you could easily find evidence of Wintel popularity in creative fields. But these discussions are, as you suspect, not necessarily evidence based. And that's why I don't evangelize. That requires belief in the gospel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamela Galli Posted March 16, 2016 Author Share Posted March 16, 2016 I dont evangelize either, tho I have abundant experience with both platforms, and I know what I like and why. I dont understand why anyone cares what computer I use, car I drive, or supermarket I shop at, much less demands I explain to them why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DartAgain Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Approaching it from a game engine perspective because Sansar appears to want to be "that", only difference being that LL wants to host the games and provide the currency. I liked this little breakdown of 3D tools and what OS's they support, as you can see Mac is widely supported across the board: http://blog.digitaltutors.com/great-flame-wars-mac-vs-pc-3d-artists/ Game engines themselves all port to most major OS's, so support is not lacking in comparable products. Preferences aside the only real consideration is that when you need a lot of power for game dev, PC machines can be built out and customized more (of course you can probably say the same for Linux). For non heavy usage it really doesn't matter. Oddly, while LL is stating that PC only is the target OS so far, they have been trying to hire someone with Metal experience, which is for Apple product. How far down the road, or when if ever is anyones guess. When Sansar is more than a couple screenshots and dumb statements like "the Wordpress of VR" it might be easier to tell more about what progress they're actually making. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IvanBenjammin Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 Macs being better for 'creatives' (more commonly phrased as 'Macs are better for graphics') came about when Photoshop was Mac only. More recently, Mac displays have been superior to most PC displays, but this is a false comparision - you can get PC displays with the same quality, its just that most people don't because they're expensive. With Macs, you have no choice. All hardware differences were rendered superficial when Apple switched to Intel CPUs, anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamela Galli Posted March 18, 2016 Author Share Posted March 18, 2016 Don't know why you are addressing this to me. I have made it clear I am not evangelizing Mac, and have no interest in Mac vs PC which-is-better discussions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IvanBenjammin Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 Uhh... I replied to the thread, which addresses it to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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