WolfBaginski Bearsfoot Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 Many scripted translation tools used in-world, and the translation option in some viewers, use the Google Translate API.Google has announced this is to be withdrawn on the 1st December 2011, and until then there will be a limit on the number of requests which can be made,Google Translate AnnouncementThat's six months. With the limit on requests, I can see people complaining. Amd I don't see any easy answer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ann Otoole Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 Anything that kills off google is a good thing. The faster they marginalize themselves out of existence the better. Just another opportunity for someone to step in with a superior solution that is not controlled by right wing idiots that believe invisible beings control the universe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkie Minotaur Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 ouch - this must hurt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kolby Nissondorf Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 well I dont use google translate, so it wont affect me.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolig Loon Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 Unfortunately, Google Translate is not only the most widely used translation system today, it is by most accounts the most reliable and flexible. It's behind a lot of the systems used not only in SL (like the popular Universal Translator and the built-in translators in Phoenix and other viewers) but in business applications around the world. It parses immense numbers and kinds of documents to create a growing vocabulary and syntax engine. Google has access to an incredible volume of text in world languages, and the Translate engine is one heck of a nice learning system. I read a study about a year ago that compared Google Translate to the other three or four major systems at the time, and it was ranked as significantly more sophisticated and accurate. No matter how you may feel about corporate Google, it's going to be hard to replace their translation system when it dies. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkie Minotaur Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 I missed have missed something here - but I haven't heard anything about Google's translation system dying. Google is switching off the free, public API - that's what I have heard. This doesn't surprise me, since there is no business model to support it. I'm sure there other business models that are the perfect context for this service and I'm pretty sure, Google will use their translation service for it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerise Sorbet Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 Hi, Google Translate is not going away from the web, only the public JSON API is in the announcement. It was always a shaky proposition, there had to be massive duplication in those APi requests with no caching outside Google's systems. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolig Loon Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 Oh.......... In the immortal words of Gilda Radner, "Well, then, never mind." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luc Starsider Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 I wonder if this mean LL will remove Google translate from the viewer? I hope not, because it's really funny to see all the weird translations it comes up with in world. - Luc - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerise Sorbet Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 Luc Starsider wrote: I wonder if this mean LL will remove Google translate from the viewer? I hope not, because it's really funny to see all the weird translations it comes up with in world. - Luc - it is expected that they will put in a replacement. I will guess that the Bing translator will go in, mostly because MS is one of so few who can afford to run a thing like that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luc Starsider Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 As long as it comes up with silly translations sometimes, and make me laugh, I'm happy. - Luc - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Void Singer Posted May 28, 2011 Share Posted May 28, 2011 it was never entirely unexpected, as the whole thing was built to learn what is being spoken vs what the textbooks say, to improve their own translation rate. to that end it was spectacularly successful and if you followed it from the begining you could see how well it improved it's accuracy across the board. but google is a victim of it's own success, and the ease of access despite lower accuracy of the public appliance (which didn't allow alteration) made it hugely popular for real time translation that it wasn't quite ready for...in short they got slammed. Now they're focusing on a better ways to brand and monetize it, again, no surprises there. the website inclusion (which sticks their widget on the webpage, low exposure, high visibility, and tracking) is sticking around because it adds value for them. SL may change to another service, but I predict those services will quickly dry up as well as the mass of current free users on google transition over and are also slammed. eventually it'll only be viable as a paid service or in limited static forms like you see for in page translations. at that point, it'll be pay or do without for live translation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purple Reverie Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 What can I do to chat with a foreign friend? I keep getting errors from Ferd's translator and others I have tried. Does anyone know if there areany which don't use Google please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolig Loon Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 Pretty much any instant translator uses Google's system. I know that's true of the popular free translators (Universal and Simbolic) and of the built-in translators that most viewers use. There is no substitute waiting in the wings. I'm afraid we will have no alternative but cutting and pasting through Google Translate (http://translate.google.com/?hl=en&tab=mT) or Babelfish (http://babelfish.yahoo.com/). That's slow and clumsy, unfortunately, but we're stuck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purple Reverie Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 That will be awful! Thanks for your answer though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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