06-21-2012 05:48 PM
I bought a lovely mesh dress. I liked it so much that I was willing to change my mind about never changing my shape to fit clothing. There was no way the top was going to look right with just an alpha mask[ if it was going to fit, I needed to alter my shape, which I did, and I was pleased with the result. Since there was only a little hip showing through on each side, I decided that, having already made a special shape for ther dress, I may as well alter my hips to fit it. Surprise! I could not do it.
Heere is what it looked like before I changed anything:
Here is what it looked like when I reduced hip width to 0:
And here it is with hip width set at 100:
Can someone expalin why adjusting the hip shape did not work while adjusting the breast shape did?
06-21-2012 08:04 PM
The problem is that you need to wear a larger size. You'll have to choose one that covers your hips and then wll probably have to enlarge your bust too. If the dress is done in the so called 'standard sizes' then you can refer to the setting for the sizes to see what the settings should be. Alternatively, you could get an alpha layer that covers the hips to eliminate the peek through. I'm pretty sure I saw a pack of basic alpha templates or layers on the marketplace if you don't know how to make one. There is a standard size information kit on MP also that gives you the settings you need to fit each size too.
06-21-2012 08:14 PM
Thanks, Amethyst. I know how to solve the problem with an alpha mask, and, in fairness, must say that one came with it. However, I am trying to understand why when my breast sticks through I can make it smaller and fix the problem, but when my hip sticks through, that won't work.
The reason I chose the size, XS, was that the top fits in back; anything larger leaves an unsightly gap between the back of the dress and my back.
06-21-2012 11:51 PM - edited 06-21-2012 11:52 PM
Mesh is rigged to the bones, not the body morphs. So because you're moving the bones in the pelvis, the dress over the hips is going with it. The breast is just body morph (soft bits), there are no breast bones
At present, you become the shape of the clothing and not the other way around so you have to either wear something so ridiculously large it doesn't matter or you have to wear an alpha layer.. OR have something custom made for your shape.
We're all waiting for the mesh deformer which will shrink wrap mesh clothing *made to work with it* to your own shape. (It's a bit more involved than that, but that's the desired effect).
Until then, I won't make mesh clothing or buy it because the results are undesired.
06-22-2012 12:08 AM
The settings for hips are not absolute, but in proportion to your avatars overall size and body fat. A zero setting for a 6m tall avi will still result in larger hips than for a 5m tall avi. Body fat works pretty much the same way.
I know exactly what you are going though. None of the so called standard sizes fit my entire avatar. I've bought very few mesh clothes as a result, only 5. I won't change my shape. Alpha's only work for me if the shape of the mesh garment is loose or isn't radically different from my own shape, otherwise my body will still look different.
06-22-2012 03:00 AM
Don't adjust the hip width. It affects the bones and the dress will follow that setting. Instead adjust the Saddle Bags which affects the body fat in the hip area. The dress will not follow this setting. So going lower in saddle bags setting you should be able hide your hips inside the dress.
06-22-2012 06:46 AM - edited 06-22-2012 08:19 PM
I'll try that, Coby.
ETA: I did try it, and the love handles worked as described, but the area affected was well above the area I needed to change.
07-02-2012 03:58 PM
If the dress is done in standard sizing, there should be a notecard in the package with the sliders you need to change. Here are the XS sliders and whatthey need to be set to
Body Fat: 5
Torso Muscle: 31
Breast Size: 48
Love Handles: 25
Belly Size: 2
Leg Muscle: 45
Butt Size: 34
Saddle Bags: 30
If you need another size search 'standard sizing package' on marketplace the sizes are listed there. You may have to slightly tweak a few of these, I find I often have to take the saddlebads or love handles down just a tiny bit from what's listed.
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