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Lucia Nightfire

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  1. 13 hours ago, animats said:

    So your avatar is portable across games/virtual worlds.

    This is what I was focusing on. You think owners of MMOs want a third party networked app that allows people to see other people wearing avatars on their platforms that aren't assets from those platforms, ie, out of their control/governance? Let's not even mention the impact on the economy.

    I'm sure there is already something in many MMO's ToS that prohibits this in some form.

    It's sort of like an illegal TPV blowing the shared experience out of the water. As much as I hate the shared experience policy, there is a point where it is necessary.

  2. 11 hours ago, animats said:

    Have you seen "Ready Player Me"? This is a system used in some low-end virtual worlds. It outsources the entire avatar and clothing system to a third party. All avatar customization is done on the Ready Player Me site, the assets reside at Ready Player Me, and the game/virtual world uses a Ready Player Me library to render the avatar. So your avatar is portable across games/virtual worlds. It's free for a game to use this, because avatar clothing costs money and that's paid to Ready Player Me.

    Because this is all they do, they're getting good at this, especially on the ease of use front.

    Sounds like a lawsuit waiting to happen in some form over some edge case.

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  3. 2 hours ago, Mollymews said:

    with the scarcity idea.  We can create in SL what is referred to elsewhere as a NFT. (non-fungible token)

    when a SL prim is rezzed for the first time, it gets a OBJECT_CREATION_TIME stamp

    the identifier combination of: OBJECT_NAME + OBJECT_CREATOR + OBJECT_CREATION_TIME is uniquely constant to that item when the item is No-Modify

    this can be validated by an external script. http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/LlGetObjectDetails 

    should the item be copybotted then OBJECT_CREATOR and OBJECT_CREATION_TIME will be different to the original, which gives a proof that the copied item is a counterfeit, and would be subject to a DMCA takedown

    if the creator were to make a limited set of a work, say 10 for example. Then when we dragcopy to make 10 then they will all have the same identifier

    and we could sequentially number the pieces in the Object Description, so that a piece from a limited set is uniquely identifiable to the original buyer, provided that we maintain a record of the sale and the object details

    when the pieces are set No-Copy + No-Modify + Transfer then we can allow our customers to participate in the reseller market with our NFT-like works

     

    This doesn't stop duplication methods of no-copy content, especially with objects not rezzed/attached in a script enabled region to allow negotiations with a home server upon new/next owner.

    There are some deterrents that can be done, but there are still risks to end-users that take possession of duplicated content depending on if someone already "registered" the content ahead of them.

  4. 12 hours ago, Cayenne Republic said:

    Nadi making test vendors while everyone else is gnashing teeth. ♥ (and those dragons are awesome!)

    And those test vendors have not been cleared by LL.

    Just because they preview what you're buying, if they randomize the offered content on a timer or after purchase, that does not mean LL can't say that they still perpetuate the gacha mechanic in whole.

    Then what?

  5. 1 hour ago, Deathly Fright said:

    then what is the difference to the proposed new gatcha system like in the video versus a one of a kind vendor? which I don't think anybody would consider a gatcha.

    It still perpetuates the gacha mechanic.

    Randomizing on a timer or after a purchase.

    Does not matter if what is currently displayed is what you get.

    LL can simply make such a statement to doom any such "workaround".

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  6. 1 hour ago, Deathly Fright said:

    OOOH ok.. I thought you were quoting a what a lawyer said to LL. yea, they could say that, but if this fulfills the rules they've been advised then this whole thing may not be an issue

    No, not even an LL staffer will directly quote a lawyer. They will "transcribe" legalease into a generic interpretation for public statements in the company's favor for whatever change in ToS is on the table.

     

  7. 1 hour ago, Deathly Fright said:

    where is that quote from?

    What part of my comment are you referring to?

    The part where I said LL "could" make a statement that references legalease that prevents all manner of alternatives that are deemed to perpetuate the gacha mechanism partially or in full?

  8. 3 hours ago, Silas Merlin said:

     

    Everyone and their brother has already proposed "preview" gacha and some have already hopped on board and implemented a version with their own "gacha compliant" or "gacha legal" claim. LL has not officially said if this an acceptable alternative.

    One thing many are forgetting is LL under "advise from legal" can easily claim "Any mechanism that perpetuates gacha at any portion or phase in the purchase procedure, before, after and in between each purchase, whether by one or multiple users, whether facilitated through one or multiple hosts, multiple locations, multiple pay methods such as L$ or transferable and/or redeemable goods/services/tokens, will not be allowed.".

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  9. 1 hour ago, Kimmi Zehetbauer said:

    I think of Greedy Greedy. I remember when it was popular for awhile...

    I was being quasi facetious.

    We are all aware of table top games and zyngo type "games" in SL.

    I was focusing more on script/viewer capabilities/tools that facilitate more advanced/intense/active games/gameplay/interaction.

  10. 1 hour ago, Arwyn Quandry said:

    Does this mean that a gatcha creator could set up a token system where users would purchase a known item (tokens) in order to use them on the gatcha machine?

    I asked him with a mention about tokens/store credits/store points used to pay gacha machines over 40 pages back.

    I wish they answered that already.

    Also, seeing as over 2 dozen people asked about "preview" alternative type machines, I wish they'd have answered that as well.

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  11. 4 hours ago, Drakkhis said:

    Ok I have the Solution to the Gatcha Problem, I created a New Gitcha Vendor where you buy what you see, and then the Next Item for sale is Random

    Second Life Marketplace - DFC Gitcha Machine Vendor

    I would not post advertising for a new product of yours here at such an oppurtune time, nor would I attempt to capitalize early on a method LL has not officially accepted/endorsed as an alternative.

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  12. 1 hour ago, Jordan Whitt said:

    I have not read through all the posts, nor do I really care to, but my two cents...I don't really have an opinion on gachas staying or going, but I do find it unfair to only give people one month's notice of this new policy.  

    Creators have planned and will have been working on Halloween and Xmas events, not to mention now only have a month to figure out how to transform their existing gachas into something they can sell.

    They should have been allowed to finish out the year and start 2022 with the new policy.

    As much as I agree, LL's hands might be tied. They could have already been given a timeline else face hefty fines.

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  13. 1 hour ago, Faly Breen said:

    i think @Finite is there more right since a lot gacha creators put (way to much) actual effort into their things willingly to know that some of their stuff is actually "rare". with this factor gone, where will be this factor if everyone can literally "just buy it"? I mean the "thing" about gachas was this "curiotisty" what you will get. with that literally gone, it will more or less end as a boring window shopping trip now.

    I think creators aren't hinging on gacha for the sake of gacha, but for other reasons, the primary one being that they already enjoy creating content and have an outlet to bolster their exposure/notoriety/brand/name. I think if there is not an alternative avenue acceptable by LL, they will simply fall back on pricing their work accordingly. That rare they spent additional time creating will be priced much much higher than their "commons". The price difference alone shows their perceived value in their extra work. The gambling thrill will be gone, but the customers that actually use/wear/rez/love their content won't be gone and will gladly pay the price the creator thinks it's worth.

  14. 1 hour ago, Asadora Summers said:

     

    I just want to take this time and say that it is heartwarmingly concerning that people are worried about their breedables. I'm hoping this is out of love for their breedable pets and not out of personal greed of profit.
    I love my KittyCatS! They keep me company on my land. Before I had them, legacy prims were my companions; however, I'm so used to having my virtual cats push me, throw butterfiles at me and demand to be picked up... that I'd be sad if they were gone.
    Seriously though, your post is on point. It's not gambling if your two paired up mother and father of breedables have an offspring, that's just nature.

    If KittyCats does not allow for a user to pay money to buy a starter cat of known traits and instead, gets one of randomized traits, they might be in violation of the policy as it doesn't look like LL can make an exception in this area.

    LL certainly opened up a can of worms (bad pun) and can't play favorites to any applications that offer unknown content for money.

    I do hope the FAQ LL is cooking up explains what all is allowed or not outside of what's literally gacha for all intents and purposes.

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  15. 1 hour ago, Finite said:

    I honestly think creators will just revert back to basic sets instead of the extravagant ones you see in gachas.

    Or they'll just price things they already love creating accordingly and not based on how many pulls they think they can get?

    There is obvious passion in creator's works. Gacha going away won't stop that.

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