Elinah Iredell
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Thank you both again I do feel confused about the meaning of the phrase "BOM" and what it means. I thought baked on mesh was referring to the skin you wear on your classic avatar diirectly that shows up on the mesh avatar when baked on mesh is enabled, but baked on mesh can also include both the tattoo and clothing layers too? What layer is the alpha on?
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Thank you both for your answers. I usually just wear the alpha layer covering of private areas from the mesh body hud but wonder how quickly that will rez compared to the tattoo or clothing layers ? I also noticed how the new Lara x mesh body doesn't seem to need to use an alpha covering the classic avatar body anymore, so will that classic body underneath the mesh body show up naked in high lag areas before the mesh body goes on ? Do you think a combination of options will work better than just one? I do see how creating a skin with a baked on mesh bra and panties on it would be a good idea, of course it could get in the way of certain strapless dresses and tops so better to use pasties. I don\t see it done by skin makers very often, but I can create my own skin if i have to.
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I have been wondering, which option is going to rez more quickly for modesty on a mesh body, an alpha,, a tattoo layer bra and panties, or a clothing layer bra and panties in high lag areas ? Which is best to hide the private areas of a mesh body when going to places in second life where avatar's clothes are not rezzing quickly and many will appear naked for a long time ? How do I prevent that from happening to me?
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On 3/2/2024 at 11:56 AM, Melancholy said:
I have an older Lelutka head -- Simone. I'd like to upgrade to an EvoX head so I can take advantage of newer skins, but the heads don't respond well to my existing shape. After days of wrangling, I have to admit it's beyond my ability to make the newer heads look like "me." Are there shape makers or stylists who help people upgrade from one generation of head to another? Is this even a thing?
Please keep me updated on your progress. It sounds like fun.
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3 hours ago, Rowan Amore said:
Since the EvoX has it's own mapping, you'll need to apply for the dev kit from Lelutka...
Content Creators – LeLUTKA (lelutkasl.com)
As for the body skin, while they technically would work as BOM skin on any mesh body, there are subtle differences usually in the finger/toe areas where the old painted on nails and toe spacing are since system bodies didn't have separate fingers and toes. Since you created the skins, you can make those adjustments on your own and wear them as BOM/system skins on most mesh bodies.
Hi Thank you for your answer. Why does trying on an older skin with an Evo x head cause the head of the skin to flip upside down? I also notice the chest shading on the Maitieya x mesh bodies seems a little off in some lighting with these older skins,. is there a reason for that? I will apply for the developer kits and try to make things look better. Should be interesting.
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Hi. I have some skins I created many years ago,, and I was wondering if it is possible to flip the head of the skin over to work with the evo x heads? Has anyone done this and is it hard ? Also how do you make the body of the skin compatible with maitreya lara x and other mesh body types ? I just want to do this for myself probably not going to sell any of them.
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On 3/2/2024 at 11:56 AM, Melancholy said:
I have an older Lelutka head -- Simone. I'd like to upgrade to an EvoX head so I can take advantage of newer skins, but the heads don't respond well to my existing shape. After days of wrangling, I have to admit it's beyond my ability to make the newer heads look like "me." Are there shape makers or stylists who help people upgrade from one generation of head to another? Is this even a thing?
I agree with what many are saying on here about this. Not only find a head shape that looks like you, but the skin is also very important too. A skin can completely change how you avatar head looks. Can you go back to your original skin maker and see if they have any evo x compatible skins for sale?
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3 hours ago, Teresa Firelight said:
I let it go earlier today.. it was still a linden home when last I saw it
Thank you for telling me I grabbed it I just abandoned my stilt home on the water. I told everyone in the Bellisaria citizen's group first as a courtesy though.They ask us to. I do not know if it is still there I just let it go.
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On 6/27/2022 at 10:05 PM, Teresa Firelight said:
any PP members looking for an exceptionally nice 512 lot? It is on a lake with lake in front, canal behind and scenic bamboo grove nearby. atm it is on the edge of a void and has only 1 neighbor.. the lot is raised and the neighbor's parcel fairly hidden, but you can see great view of lake on side of neighbor's house from back yard.
I will be abandoning on the 3rd as alt expires. But if someone wants to submit a ticket for it, I can abandon earlier. Just let me know if you submit a ticket and we can coordinate so I abandon shortly after ticket is submitted.
Landing point (just in front of parcel) is http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Mondainashi/225/11/23
(If you decide to submit a ticket, be sure to step a few meters inside parcel for URL -- there is no security orb)
I would love to have that home.I have been considering abandoning my own linden home to start afresh too. It is a linden home?
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Okay I have to chime in here. The poster who critizied the mesh heads has a right to her opinion, and I have to say in all honestly, I have been in this game a very long time and I also have a lot of trouble getting certain features to look good on many of the heads, though a well made skin can help . You all sound like an angry mob . Worse than twitter.
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On 10/11/2021 at 10:39 AM, karenx0 said:
EDIT: One more thing, that I forgot to add;
When you are looking at the skin stores, before you try a demo, make sure you check if the names on the pictures are written "Evolution X or EVOX or EvoX". You cannot wear a skin that says Evo for your EvoX head.
In an example: You cannot wear Kupra size clothes for your legacy body. And as that, you cannot wear Evo skins for your EvoX head or the face will be upside down.
I do not understand , I would have thought that the lelutka evo head required an evo skin but you seem to be saying the opposite that I cannot wear an evo skin for an evo head? How do I choose a skin what should it say?
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2 hours ago, Elinah Iredell said:
Thank you that is what turned out to be the problem the skin demos I had that claimed to be for evo x were not compatible with it , and so I felt there was something wrong with the head , but I did find a demo skin that worked , now I realize the problem was the demo skins and not the lelutka evo head.
Sounds confusing. How does the lelutka head compare with the hd pro in terms of high definition detailing?
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On 10/11/2021 at 9:07 AM, Rowan Amore said:
The Evo is the older version. EvoX is the newer one. Evo uses the same UV map as any other head and why you could use skins made for other heads on it. Not so with EvoX. The skins made for EvoX will not work in Evo mode and vice versa.
Perhaps showing us exactly which version of the demo skin you are using might help us.
Thank you that is what turned out to be the problem the skin demos I had that claimed to be for evo x were not compatible with it , and so I felt there was something wrong with the head , but I did find a demo skin that worked , now I realize the problem was the demo skins and not the lelutka evo head.
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3 hours ago, Bree Giffen said:
There are two types of skins, the Evo and Evo X. The Lelutka HUD has two buttons to choose between Evo and Evo X mode. So if you try a skin and it looks weird, go to the HUD and click on Evo or Evo X. If you don't see these buttons you need to go to the store and have your head redelivered which will get you the latest HUD.
Thank you for your reply. I did not purchase the lelutka evo head , it was just a demo, but I did get some demo skins that were supposed to be made for the evo head try to use with it. I wanted to try the evo version not the older version, so I did click on the evo option on the hud and that is when it became upside down . I could not make it look normal at all.
Update : I went back and tried again with the Lelutka Evo demo skins I had and I did find one that actually worked and made the Lelutka Evo head look normal, However the demo came with both a bom skin and a separate head overlay skin demo and only the overlay add on worked, but when wearing just the demo of the skin the head still was upside down. None of the other skins I had that were claiming to be for the evo head worked but I did find that one. I guess there is hope.
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Can anyone please explain to me how to use these new uv style Lelutka evo heads? The features are upside down no matter what I do . They say put everything on and it will look normal I tried it with the alpha and without, but it was still upside down, they also say put on an evo skin it will look normal, nope not then either. Their frequently asked questions do not include this issue they do not seem to think the features looking terrible is important I guess. The notecard mentions contacting the team if you have questions but I could not find out how to contac the team. Anyway life is too short I could not figure it out. It was frustrating I tried and tried and gave up. It is just a creepy looking upside down head to me.
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On 10/8/2021 at 9:55 AM, JeromFranzic said:
All right... time for me to make a meaningful post here.
I WANT FLATS! Don't get me wrong, I love the high heeled shoes but sometimes a lady needs to relax a little. Of course I have a few sneakers and slippers like the Pusheen pair I'm wearing here.
Can anyone point me to a decent flatpack of stylish flats shoes that won't tank my budget? I recently splurged on several new bodies for myself and a few of my alts so... yeah. Other suggestions welcome.
It's casual friday for me IRL (AKA working at home today and monitoring new appliance installs) so I figured I could wear the Pusheens for now.
Reign is a good suggestion and you can find some gachas still for sale from Reign that have a hud with color options. They are a lot less than the ones in the store. I have a ballet flat style from Reign. The gacha offers versions of the shoe without ties or with ties in various heights. They come with a hud with different colors. They are called Reign ballet flats. Here is a photo of two of the styles. #7 and #8 ( shown in the opposite order ) . I personally like the ballet styles.
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On 10/8/2021 at 10:15 AM, Laurel Aurelia said:
If I were going to suggest any flats , I would go with Reign's Jael shoes. They offer the most bang for your buck as far as different shoe heights, are simple and cute.
Those are really pretty I love the style, but I went to the store to try them on I did have a problem with the kitten heel not fitting well when I moved . The back of the heel area poked through sometimes. I tried making my foot size smaller but did not help. I may buy them anyways though because they are so pretty.
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On 8/10/2021 at 5:14 AM, Qie Niangao said:
There are quality items in gachas, and once in a great while a talented creator's best work is reserved for gacha "rares" as lure to get people to buy all the junk they'd never give away, lest it besmirch their brand. That's the thing, though: some real garbage gets loaded a commons, stuff nobody would buy on resale, stuff the merchant includes as tongue-in-cheek booby prizes. Which would be fine if gacha were still allowed (or if it moved to "skill gaming" regions), because it's a free market and folks can take a joke.
I play gachas because I can get high quality items I like at a good price, so getting the junk commons over and over is not a funny joke to me. I have to pay for that joke. I guess getting the "booby prize" may be funny once in while but certainly not all the time. That is why I prefer to get any gacha I want on the marketplace or at resale shops but again the price could be higher than if I got it directly from the gacha. Also I like to try a demo for clothing items and I have to find that at the gacha itself.
Now that gachas have been outlawed how can we still sell and buy them ? I assume gacha resale will still be legal since it is not a game of chance anymore , you know exactly what you are buying. Will it just be in the used section on the marketplace again? That is where it used to be before they created the gacha section. I would think we could all still trade and sell our gachas under a different name after gachas go away . Is there a new name for them yet?
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7 hours ago, Aegir Giha said:
Hi Elinah! I think you will like an EEP that is lighter and softer toned. Try the Environment named Places Paris.
It is in the library at the bottom of your inventory.
Right-click it and apply to yourself to test, apply to parcel when you like to apply it to your parcel for everyone to see.
Have fun!I will check it out thank you.
Update I checked it out really beautiful. I have a new fav environment. Thank you so much It would have been hard for me to create this myself.
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4 hours ago, animats said:
Mainland lighting is about to get fixed. Ambient light level was set too low when EEP went in, and there was no tool to change the defaults for sims for large numbers of sims. That's supposed to be fixed in the next server rollout. See the notes from last Tuesday's server user group meeting.
SL lighting vs skin is a shader limitation. If you don't have enough specular color on skin, you get dull, dead skin. If you have enough to get past that, you can see a shiny dot where the sun reflects off skin. The combination of this problem and SL mainland's lack of enough ambient illumination puts some SL avatars into the "uncanny valley".
The "uncanny valley" effect kicks in when pictures of humans get close enough to reality that they get evaluated as human, rather than "cartoon". Then humans become very critical of flaws. Hollywood hit the bottom of the uncanny valley with "The Polar Express" (2004), which is widely considered "creepy". Hollywood got out of that with more advanced rendering techniques. Now you can't tell who's real and who's CG.
Games then got stuck in the Uncanny Valley as the visuals got better. That was a problem for a while. One solution is giving everyone somewhat dark, tanned skin, which you see in the GTA series. AAA titles started getting past this problem around 2019, whith better rendering techniques.
The real way out of this is adding a subsurface scattering layer, which SL does not support. Maybe someday. Meanwhile, stay out of the sun and tone skins down a bit.
That is very interesting information I did not know that. Can you tell me how to identify the skins with the specular feature and which you consider dull? What type of skin do you recommend and can you create one yourself in photoshop?
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3 hours ago, Rowan Amore said:
Although all the suggestions provided are great, you will still have no control over how others see you, which seems to be your major concern.
yes I guess that is my concern what is the point of getting a nice skin, and working on your shape, buying an expensive mesh head, and then going to a sim with terrible lighting and you look awful?
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3 hours ago, Eddy Vortex said:
How others see you doesn't matter. They have their viewers set to their own favorite lighting environment so you'll still look fine to them.
Just don't walk around with facelights. Not only will 2008 be calling for them back, they will make you look awful with the Chernobyl chic glow filling the whole sim, and ruin the local lighting ambiance regardless of anyone's settings.
True I know facelight can clash with the lighting environment.
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3 hours ago, Nalates Urriah said:
@Elinah Iredell With Firestorm, and I think most viewers, you have the choice to use a single environment setting for your session OR... you can use the region's settings as you move region to region in a session. Aviators and sailors prefer the first. But, you may be happier with the later. You may be surprised at all the amazing environments you have been missing.
In Firestorm the setting is in Preferences->Firestorm->Extras (tab) at the bottom, Persist Environment settings through out sessions.
I tend to have my viewer set to persist. So I will often open the PhotoTools and and select the Shared Environment for Sky, Water, and Day Cycle.
Thank you for the advice. I don't use firestorm I use the second life viewer because I had an issue with firestorm years ago. I agree though there are many pretty environmental settings in second life but I just dislike the midday setting . I guess the problem is for me even if I personally chose an attractive setting for my avatar, I will be the only one to see it , I have no idea how I appear to others and what setting they are using. I do create my own settings too , but I will be the only one to see them.
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I really wish Linden would discontinue the midday sun noon time lighting environment. It is the most unflattering lighting in sl. In all the the years I have been in second life, even before mesh heads were invented it's always made my avatar look terrible, no matter what shape I had or skin used. And now that mesh heads are here it 's still terrible on every head I have ever tried on. It is the most unflattering unattractive lighting in second life ,yet so many places seem to use it. I think it would be nice if Linden made sure that all lighting choices were attractive and flattering to second life avatar faces.,
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Posted · Edited by Elinah Iredell
There are some mean people on these group chat message boards .They are fan boys or fan girls and hang around to say things like " hugs" to other group members and gush about how wonderful the store's items for sale are. They will not allow you to have a complaint or they will gang up on you like a mob and attack. Even group members who claim to be store owners themselves and who should behave professionally, will sometimes get into the act if they are .on there .l was surprised when you described how the moderator was behaving ,since that person is supposed to keep things friendly and polite. You have nothing to apologize for, if I was the store owner I would not appreciate a customer being treated rudely . Glad they made things right and stuck up for you I have been attacked by some people on those types of group boards before . It is things like that can make me consider taking a break from this game. And at times I have, but not everyone acts like those people in this game.This forum has nice people to discuss things with . In future you can send a notecard with your questions directly to the sales customer service of a store. Avoid the message boards.