Baloo Uriza

Pussycat Catnap wrote: But it might also be asking everyone else to limit their visual options because one person refuses to use respect the environment around them, since many people nearby are using modern graphics settings. Fixed that for you. I'm not going to hate on someone for having older hardware, but to do so and not get the hint...

Bobbie Faulds wrote: Simple solution, under the advanced menu in the rendering, you can chose not to render attach lights...problem solved. This, however, also destroys legitimate uses of attached lights, like flashlights, lanterns, headlamps, etc. that don't destroy suspension of disbelief in any given scene.

Can we have this not be a thing? It's better to respond to an old thread than to rehash the same thing in a new thread. Kudos on lillez for finding an existing thread on the subject instead of starting the whole thing over again.

lillez wrote: I would like to try and explain a different perspective with this post. I am a person who has used the facelight that came with my premium brand skin. I do not add things to this such as bling or glitters. Every day I get countless compliments on my appearance....with the facelight on.. During my short tenure here in SL, I have had 3 rude, experienced SL people point out that my facelight is a problem for them and I need to turn it off. Now I know I am just a noobie......but if I have 90 people telling me that my look is one of the best they have seen.....and 3 people telling me my facelight is too bright.....which would you go with? The simple truth of this situation is the problem is not just facelights. The problem is facelight + viewers settings. Notice...there are two halves to this problem....two people involved. I just left a place where person after person complimented my avi......but one individual told me my facelight was too bright and I needed to turn it off. So is the problem my facelight when 95% of the people like it.....or the settings that some people have? Obviously, the facelight. If you actually got a skin that is worth the money, it'd look good without the facelight. Thankfully, this fad has largely died now, and it's only real serious newbies who are using them. That said, you don't have to look like a lightbulb to do it; your skin isn't supposed to look like you're standing in front of a vanity in the middle of the night. If you want to look like you do in full light all the time, that's what environment settings are for, set yours to noon.

I'm actually working with a fairly comparable AMD Radeon in my laptop. The AMD drivers have been fairly solid on Linux for the last few years, for the most part, though there's a couple bugs, both of which cause sudden performance drops, and are most notably hit by Source based games that haven't yet worked around them (TF2 to some degree, and the Half Life 2 franchise for sure). It's not the beefiest GPU on the market, but it's not a bad economy dedicated GPU, either. SL (as viewed through Singularity on Debian amd64) doesn't seem to have a marked difference between the open drivers and the AMD official drivers (suggesting the gap has dramatically closed recently). If you got the money, sidestep the problem and go nVidia. But the Radeon's not going to be a bad choice (and probably a better one if you're trying to minimize your nonfree software intake)

To buy directly from the Lindens: Yes. This is also generally the safest way to go. To rent from a fellow resident landlord: No, but don't be surprised if they go **bleep** up leaving you with no land and unable to return your L$ or US$.

Singularity's a good viewer. Though reinstalling the video drivers wouldn't involve tossing the computer...I'm leaning towards a software problem.

Coby Foden wrote: Baloo Uriza wrote: I'm still partial to Singularity and Kokua. Still don't trust the viewer formerly known as Emerald (or whatever it's called now). If you don't remember, the history goes like this: 1. Emerald --> 2. Phoenix --> 3. Firestorm. Only Firestorm is active now. All of those have been my main viewers, of my own choice, since their release. I have encountered no problems whatsoever in using them. If they were malicious ones, as you appear to fear, surely something very bad should have happened to me during all these years. :smileyindifferent: Or it just hasn't surfaced publicly yet. Wouldn't be the first time that dev team has let something slide under the radar for far too long. They have trust issues that really can't be dealt with short of replacing everyone on the dev team.

I'm still partial to Singularity and Kokua. Still don't trust the viewer formerly known as Emerald (or whatever it's called now).

Objects have too many verticies and textures are too large. It's basically choking the GPU of everyone who goes there. Remember, efficiency and "good enough" often works better than overkill.

Sounds like you don't have the drivers for it working right.

Still better to contribute to an existing thread so people can find the answer than start a new thread and expect everyone to rehash everything again.

Yes. Be kind to other people. This is something you should read, obviously it's a bit more geared towards that particular virtual world, but the raison d'être applies for this place as well.

The Linux version will run from whereever you unpack it. At my house, we have one copy on a common network drive, it works.

It would expose your IP to Vivox (if it actually works, which is pretty spotty at best). Media streams would expose your IP to the media servers. Basically, if you don't want people knowing your IP, don't use the Internet because that's how servers know where to send the data you requested.

If you're trying to slip the surly bonds of Windows and MacOS, you'll need a full blown Linux distribution. In addition, you'll need a machine with a proper GPU. I've had particularly good luck at an affordable price with a Lenovo IdeaPad N586 with Debian Linux, though I find the lack of TrackPoint to be the most annoying feature (seriously, it's time the trackpad fad died already; the trackpoint allows for finer movement of control over a far broader range, without being prone to accidental clicks and movement while typing). Chromebooks are not intended nor capable of doing anything you can't do in a web browser, by design.

Just turn on your reply notifications.

Better to continue a new thread than start a redundant thread; no thread is too old to be continued on a how-to list. Though better to answer the question publicly where it can be archived and found later than ask the same question over and over.

I wouldn't expect voice to work reliably until Linden Research drops Vivox in favor of a voice software provider that actually has a QA staff.

Yeah, the level of hardware support Linux has these days really makes everything Microsoft offers for hardware support and detection look positively stone age. Especially given the over-reliance in expecting hardware vendors to know how to write a good driver to start with, much less expecting it to be available when you need it (the moment it's attached, not 90 seconds later when Windows stops having alzheimers on how a thumb drive or mouse works, not hours and many Google searches later to find a driver that didn't ship with the OS and isn't on Windows Update.

Not quite. OpenGL has native support on MacOS and Linux. Windows doesn't, it's emulated through DirectX; you take a performance hit for that translation. That said, Windows has more in common with VMS than any modern OS...

You're crippling yourself with Windows, which doesn't natively support the OpenGL environment SL depends on. Furthermore, not even Windows itself takes full advantage of a 64 bit environment. Go with Linux instead (Ubuntu, or preferably Debian) and you have a stronger start.

Becky Shamen wrote: I tried the new fewer today. After only 2 hours, I dumped it and went back to the previous version, which is the second worst viewer LL has yet to make. The interesting thing about the latest viewer was that is cut my speed, from an all time high FPS to the slowest I have ever seen. The video said it was the last of the improvements that they will make. I can only assume their goal is to chase all their users away. I think what you meant to say was "I'm making vague assessments with no baseline for settings or hardware used, and posting no secondlife.log, ensuring nobody can duplicate my results, because obviously Linden Lab wants to go out of business." If that sounds silly to you, good, because that's pretty much what anyone who approaches computer science scientifically just thought about what you wrote.

I'm happy to say that this myth did NOT originate in the OSGrid community or the community of OpenSimulator developers. Mostly because even if true, it'd speak for itself, but it's not true, so spreading it would be retarded.

Can't say I was wrong if it depends on one of many third-party hacks.