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Till Vaher

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  1. It is very sketchy that they request a negative review be taken down in return for a "refund". We do have a lot of people buying products from our store having not read the description properly, not knowing how to work the item or thinking that the item was something else entirely different and of course they then leave a negative review... we actually appreciate having people highlight legitimate problems though so that we can fix it rather than have to deal with 1 stars. However there is nothing to prevent them from blocking you which would prevent you from buying their items in future. It is just the unfortunate thing. BUT the same goes that they can "refund" or say that they have refunded you all they want and there is nothing to prevent you from continuing to use the item which you already have as LL will not remove the item from your inventory. This is rather frustrating though when we have customers spamming 1 stars and demanding refunds on a fully functioning product, "Give me refund and I'll remove the review"... There needs to a be a flag for both way rating abuse.
  2. Well if that is the case then LL legal department here we come. Tired of this bs from these individuals. We again would not normally do this but the banner, tags and store name all make it seem we are associated with them and these are products we endorse/make but release under their store. We can deal with the tit for tat us releasing one product then they release an exact copy because of quality and the customers know and have commented but this is one step too far in an ever increasing history.
  3. I will keep this simple and not name names for the sake of drama. I help run a store. Recently we had reports that another store selling similar/same items has been adding tags of our store name to their products so that when people search for items under our store name their items come up too (their store name is nowhere near the same name and nor were the names of the items). They were confronted by someone about it and immediately messaged us directly saying that we were spreading around false rumours (we had no idea at this time) but we have proof from viewing the html text files of the item webpage that shows our store name under their tags but before we could actually report the individual items magically the tags disappeared. There we go, they got called out for their actions by people other than us (customers actually) and took those tags off. End of right? Or so we thought. Now they have changed their store name or created a new store using their store name and adding our store name to it in order to put the tag on. Yes I know we can't tell people "hey you can'tcall yourselves that" and that there are actually a few stores that use our name (we were the originals and made sure nobody had our name because we didn't want to do exactly this, we don't mind that these stores though call themselves the same name because the stuff they sell is so far detached from what we actually sell). But this is just such a skeezy move in order to sell their extremely similar/same products using a tag of our products by store name directly to bypass the individual item reporting under tag abuse. Is there a way we can lodge a complaint to have their store name reverted? We normally wouldn't care enough to go this far and talk to them directly but this is just another action in a long line of incidents where they have tried to screw with us including threats of bs DMCA's which would directly have shut down our business due to real world legal costs. Tired of their pettiness, it would be like Apple calling themselves Apple IBM Microsoft Linux.
  4. If it is a griefer then why havent they picked up on it. But even then why are they still defending that our products are being flagged and should be moved. If they acknowledge that there is a problem with the current system then why do the JIRA's keep getting thrown out? If it is a griefer it should be easy to spot around 50+ items from 3 shops (and more from those that we dont know) being mass flagged by one person. But if it is a Linden going on an OCD clean up then questions should be raised as to why they are only flagging some items and not a whole shop of similar products. But if it is a Linden telling us to move our products to another category they should be protected from false flagging from others as incorrectly categorised or they should just endorse the JIRA (and the many just like it for the exact same reason) to be approved and then if it is approved they should stop bumping genuine products from the Furry Accessories sub category until the website ammendments are made.
  5. Just been notified by a friend that most of his store has been flagged. Literally all he sells is furry heads. The most furry of accessories. If those dont belong in the furry accessories category then what does? Yes it's mesh, yes it's mod/copy etc etc so then it should be Cosmetic Enhancements as stated by Dakota because it changes the look of an existing avatar but creators useit for making mods however it isnt full perm so it isnt a creators tool. BUT THE MAJORITY OF THINGS MADE FOR FURRIES ARE MESH AND FULL PERMS BECAUSE NOBODY WANTS A SCULPTY AND YOU NEED TO BE ABLE TO MODIFY IT OR GIVE IT TO SOMEONE TO MODIFY FOR YOU SO EVERYTHING ARGUABLY IN AVATAR ACCESSORIES SHOULDNT BE IN AVATAR ACCESSORIES So which one does he pick? It's not really cosmetic like a bit of make up because a head is a dramatic body change but its not strictly a creator tool because anybody can slap on a texture bought from a 3rd party to customise it. This again is a furry accessory because as stated by Dakota it is specifically designed for a furry avatar just like the jewelry example. Can we please stop flagging obviously furry stuff that is not a complete avatar until a definite judgement can be made that is not based on a clearly out of date ruleset made for the MP years ago when things like this couldnt even be made? @Kristen Linden @Tommy Linden @Dakota Linden @Callum Meriman
  6. Thank you Kristen. However I would like to point out that if you trawl back through JIRA you will find loads of submissions of this type asking for roughly the same thing... more categories and subcategories for MP furry creators to sell their product (some worded better than others). So this isn't a new idea or a new problem. When the MP started the SL furry community wasnt as big and because of the lack of things like mesh at the time there wasnt exactly a huge amount you could do with sculpties so it wasnt that big of an issue. But now the community has grown and the building tools have become better then suddenly you have a much bigger problem. Just do a quick search for kemono or utilizator and you will see just how many mods there are for that which would suddenly clutter up whole sub-categories of the MP. However if you do a quick search for furry pants then you will see how things will get lost in the clothing categories due to low numbers which is bad for creators because most furries browse to buy their stuff in order to compare and if you cant be seen in the same place as your competitor or they have to spend hours looking through ripped jeans in order to find the specifically meshed, sized, positioned and rigged pants shape clothing (which I will point out again Dakota has described as being a furry accessory for jewelry because of those very reasons but because it is clothing or clothing shaped then it has to go into clothing) that might look even semi-decent then you are going to loose customers. And as is happening now when we get bumped into traditionally human realms of the MP we get reported for false listing because it is furry... do you really want to have thousands more reports to go through? Vesper has already had 20+ such false reports in one day and she is a very small sized seller so imagine that 100fold for a bigger store every single week if not day when it is busy then multiply that by a bunch more stores. So please just pass on a notice or something to the team dealing with JIRA's and tell thiem that this is an issue and to look at the demand from previous JIRA's that have been closed and ignored. Also how do you access the webuser group? I have never heard of that.
  7. Very niche but it brings in the money in droves. I doubt many other communities on SL makes LL as much money through sales.
  8. Thank you Tommy. It has only taken a cluster fudge of a thread to get some attention to this which has been going on for a very long time. Basically furries get their shapes from crators who make mods. People make textures for these mods to customise the avatar. Other make clothes for mods such as legs etc that will only fit those specific legs and shapes. Heads usually have specific eyes that can't be used with human heads etc etc etc. Another problem is that mods are not the same as complete avatars and then you even get mods for those complete avatars. The furry market for bodies can basically be described as a candy pick n mix because a handful of avatars, mods, textures and bits will go into it and that isnt even including the clothes or even the HUDS/animations etc required for those body parts to work especially now that bento has come around. Some but not all Sub-categories with Further Sub-categories should include Body parts - Heads, Eyes, Digi/Planti Legs, Hands/Paws, Ears, Tails, Wings, Horns , Actual Bodies (but not complete avatars), Other Mods, Feral Textures/Skins/Shaders - As above Clothing - Thoeofcourse have their own categories but with this could easily be just a section on it's own Animations (yes things like ears and tails have their own animations) Huds (huds are made specifically to cater for animations and textures for furries) Naughty Bits (you go look at the genitals section and tell me with a straight face that a giant horse dong belongs with a human one) To complicate things, such things as nipples (which sell pretty well because of this) when you buy a skin texture some dont have nipples and if you want then you have to buy them seperate especially if you want multiple nips (which also sell well). But under the current way of doing things then where would you put those? Textures, Adult stuff because of their nature or other various places that a thousand different residents flag them for being in incorrectly? My friend above with her Women's pants for digi legs for furries put in the women's pants section get flagged for being in the wrong category despite being in the right category (by your standards) because they are designed specifically for furries. Our shopjust had a product for a feral avatar (a normal animal body not humanised in shape or form). It was a costume for the Hellhund (dog basically) but there is no other category but furry accessories to fit it because it was body armour for a dog... literally the most furry accessory you could get but yet it has to go in a clothing category now where it will just be flagged by a resident for being incorrectly categorised.
  9. Basically what is happening is that Dakota and other Lindens are flagging hundreds if not thousands of items in Furry Accessories for being "incorrect". But then when the items are "correctly" listed in respective categories they are being flagged again by residents because they view them as being incorrectly posted in traditionally human categories for being furry related. What can you do because if you keep putting it back in the same category in either one then your product gets blocked/banned and you loose revenue, keep doing it for multiple items and you can get blocked from the MP or banned.
  10. Dakota is replying and liking on this thread so they are aware but still arguing their decisions in a post above. Simply put their reply is "I am right and you are wrong"
  11. Eyes for furry heads that only work in furry heads - Furry Accessory Legs made for a body to make the avatar look furry - Furry Accessory Clothing that is generic - Clothing Clothing that only fits Digi Legs for furries - Furry Accessory because it isnt really an item of clothing... its more than likely a specifically shaped meshwork for furries (as per the example given by you for jewelry because it is a specific size, shape and location... make up your mind) Weapons - Weapons (dumb example) Textures - This is debatable because a texture of bricks could go into building materials, likewise the texture of fluff could be seen as a solely furry purchase and an accessory to be worn by furries... arguably depending Furry Accessories depending on the texture Skins that make you look tanned or spotty or a different race - Skins Skins that make you look like a cat - Furry Accessories
  12. Problem being is that this subject has been put in Jira's constantly and keeps getting turned down despite being the obvious solution to the problem.
  13. meshDigi Pants is the name of the actual item, not a warning or description. Also it is impossible for it to be a normal Resident as 30 or so items are getting flagged in one instance so it is a Linden having an OCD clearout. FYI Apricot Paws (the creator of that link) is also a "victim" of this which is why they are in that category. But if you want to have to trawl through a few thousand freshly relisted furry products before you get to what you want in a traditionally human set of categories then feel free not to complain about that. What furry creators are getting in a fuss about is that huge swathes of their shops are getting flagged, delisted or deleted because they are putting accessories for furries in the furry accessories category. That sales are falling because their target consumers are not browsing upon their items in a smaller furry category because they are lost in the sea of normal human items or clothing. For example a set of furry legs are being flagged and suggested to be put in " Avatar Components > Cosmetic Enhancements " but then another set of legs by the same creator and for the same body will be flagged as " Building and Object Components > Mesh Creator Tools " when they are clearly just furry accessories because they are accessories to a normal body to make them furry and not a simple enhancement or a tool for creators as they are targeted at everyday buyers. The simple thing would be to just have more Furry or Fantasy categories for better sorting. Once of the examples given by Dakota Linden was that ear rings for furries should be put in the Furry Accessories category as they need to be positioned and sized and attached differently than normal ear rings but if we were to apply their logic that it can be put into a different category it should also be put in the Jewelry category. So why not have Fantasy/Furry as a category then have subcategories to sort all this out? My point being is that this Linden who is cleaning house is having double standards and is flagging items that are clearly furry and only work on furry avatars/mods and pushing them into categories that don't relate to them causing problems for furry customers and humans who don't want to see it or might buy it by accident/flag it anyway believeing it is in the wrong category after relisting. But also not having consistency in their decisions for similar products as to where they should belong.
  14. A certain role playing sim is requiring you to enter your reall full name in order to register and join in with the role playing. Is this allowed to request personal details?
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