Eileen Fellstein

Phil Deakins wrote: Eileen Fellstein wrote: I do believe however that teens can actually not only see onto, but go onto moderate sims now. (and probably important to note; there IS no more 'mature'. Land that was mature is now classified as moderate and the rules are somewhere between what you'd expect to see in PG-13 or R rated movies) Adult is it's own catagory now and those formerly on mature that had that content are expected to change it or relocate to adult sims, mostly located on the new continent of Zindra. This is the stuff teens can't access. The checkboxes in your browser pertain to what content you can view in the search and what items you can find on marketplace. It doesn't stop someone standing on general land from looking to the west and seeing the big bilboard of a nude or skimpy clad womon on someone's add and if someone walks onto their land with a prim-dog attached to pelvis, they will have no problem seeing that either. You are mistaken. There are Mature sims and there are PG sims. I'm currently standing on a Mature sim and there is a PG sim next to it. "General" and "Moderate" are merely name changes, and are for the search, and maybe for sims that were created since the name change. The only thing that changed when the Adult classification came into being was that 'adult' stuff has to be in private on Mature sims. Previously it could be out in the open. What veiwer are you using? I clearly see the land URL on my parcel listed as Moderate with the official symbol (an M in a rounded box) both in the search bar and the main title bar at the top. Most recent version of firestorm. This is mainland that was formerly classified mature. I have been here for 2 years and lived here through all these changes. I had a roller rink here open to the public at the time of the change so I made myself real familiar with the policy at that point. I'm sure some stuff has changed though. Giving it the benifit of the doubt, please post a sim that is mature and I will go there and see if it's a veiwer difference or of there really still is mature land around.

Vick Forcella wrote: Phil Deakins wrote: They can see outside PG land and they can cam outside it too. It's those who are registered as teens that are said not to be able to see Mature land. So.. The ones that have access to Mature land can cam inside. That's expected behaviour. No need for me to place a wall for just in case they don't see a wall. I'm pretty sure this is innacurate, but don't take my word. You may want to find a teen to actually double check it. I do believe however that teens can actually not only see onto, but go onto moderate sims now. (and probably important to note; there IS no more 'mature'. Land that was mature is now classified as moderate and the rules are somewhere between what you'd expect to see in PG-13 or R rated movies) Adult is it's own catagory now and those formerly on mature that had that content are expected to change it or relocate to adult sims, mostly located on the new continent of Zindra. This is the stuff teens can't access. The checkboxes in your browser pertain to what content you can view in the search and what items you can find on marketplace. It doesn't stop someone standing on general land from looking to the west and seeing the big bilboard of a nude or skimpy clad womon on someone's add and if someone walks onto their land with a prim-dog attached to pelvis, they will have no problem seeing that either.

They seem to show up about 2-3 weeks after someone notices it's been a while since there was one... ...so check in about 3 weeks! and don't wait so long before you ask about it again, lol

Hehe, we get to hear people talking out their bumms all the time. Seems like chat from a tummie would be down right refreshing I honestly never shopped the options in detail, though the idea has intrigued me from time to time. Overall, I continue to be surprised by the general dislike for these things I see expressed. To me it seems like they are one of the most potentially informative and educational things people could do in SL *shrug. Honestly the biggest deturent to doing it for me is that the prim children are not dynamic enough. They don't grow up and become your actual children in the world of second life, so it's sort of a glorified nick-nack in the end. But I guess if you had a great partner and the combinmed experience was rewarding, then it would be worth doing. anyway good luck with it

I'm just curious if perhaps there is rated genereal land adjacent to your sim (or nearby and within camming range). It could be it was sighted and reported from someone camming that just assumed since they were in general, that everything they can see is, and maybe the Linden just assumed the same. lol, someone bought a bunch of the land near me and set it to general recently. If they go camming around at just the right or wrong time, they might be in for s surprise! lol I will keep Halestorm's 'I get off' playing on the youtube TV just in case

Brings back a nice memory with my former partner. I'd given her a teddy bear and when placing it, she accidently flung it off the sim somewhere then panic'd. Life and everything in in stopped cold until we found that bear. I even got the sim owners in on the hunt. we finally found it at the far corner of the adjacent sim!. Then. with teddy home, all was right in the world again

kinda Fallen wrote: LOL, yes there is still humor in SL. Yes, but how does he look naked?

Dresden Ceriano wrote: You handle it your way; I'll handle it mine.... hopefully, we'll all be satisfied in the end. ...Dres Yes lol! so many to handle. It's gonna take 2 of us at least to handle them all hehehe

my guess is it was rezzed right next to or partially on the sim line of your property, or on top of an object (like flooring etc) that slightly overlaps. Objects can get easily flung just about anywhere from sim crossings, even if they arent in motion, though being in motion amplifies the problem greatly.

I prefer to say 'penii' when reffering to the little fellers myself. Not that many of them are that little. Just sayin'

OMG rofl. I did an investigation and big write-up on this company once for a club I was working for when we discovered that the parts spam channel 2 with coordinates about every 2 seconds. They were blocking the security people's ability to watch the channels for other offensive stuff, not to mention the colossal amount of lag that it was causing with 30 or more people in the room! But yea, the short version is that it has no impact on your avatar unless you care to play it out and go buy their stuff. I found the whole opperation to be very Larry Flynt

Hannah-barbarians, ROFL

lol, I had a nude one for a while and no one complained It was a tasteful nude though, like a Marilyn Monroe nude. It was obvious I was nude but the pose was such that the bits were coverd by my arms, and was in no way vulgar, unless you consider art like Venus De Milo vulgar. Maybe I am wrong but I thought the profiles used to let you set your own rating. Could be faulty memory banks on that and in any case, you can't now. I just checked.

sadly, the only way you will get true privacy here is get in your car, drive at least 100 miles away, get on an entirely differnt machine and make a new account and new avatar and never breathe a word about it to anyone else on the grid, even the person you think is your dearest friend. From there, don't friend anyone, don't join any groups, don't go to any businesses and don't listen to inworld music or have any media going at any time. Anything less, someone has ahold of your IP and has already begun to data mine you. Yea, they really need to fix that. They can start by including a 'do not show me online to anyone (including dashboards) option in the standard veiwer that actually works

I've seen it way too many times myself. I even had to enforce a silly set of rules that included no child avatars on more than one work stint in SL. While there are exceptions I have found that largely this veiw of child avatars comes from people's unspoken belief that everyone here has a sexual agenda at all times, hidden or not. In short, most simply assume you are acting out on a perversion. They can't accept that someone having a child avatar is a way to express their inner child as you say, or that perhaps they are just a person that really finds children to be wonderful and something to celebrate. I've put on a child shape from time to time to play on the swings, or join in the fishing contest at cartoon kids. These were fun things to do and had absolutely no sexual or sensual conotation whatsoever. I'm with you. Too much prejudism and biggorty is tolerated on the grid period

Yes, it's quite possible. Just infuse a few random members of 'The Tea Party' into whatever governmental system you currently have in place. You should be showing signs within about 6 weeks, tops and sorry no, that was NOT a joke

Did I stump everyone? Or are you all just sighing and nodding silently in agreement? lol

Thanks in advance for any help on this... I'm using the latest version of Firestorm so this may vary if you use a different veiwer. I was elated to see that I can (within the veiwer settings) change where the xyz axis is on a prim before or even after I create a prim, simply by selecting a new set of numbers then hitting ok. Hurrah! I was almost immediately DEflated to discover that the only feature this seams to effect is rotation of the prim :( Don't get me wrong, that's a wonderful feature in itself, saving a whole lot of calculation or eye-balling when you have to flip a prim on an angle in relation to anything else. Long overdue. But it has no effect for the other tools most of which have a much greater need for axis control. Most notably is the hollow feature, but would also be helpful with top shear and bottom slice and really anything else there. I'm really hoping I am just missing a setting or checkbox or something. For anyone interested in offering a work-around to my immediate issue, I'm building a home and would really like to be able to have one (or prefferably more than one) offset hollow in a larger prim for windows and doors of the home. It was really only a minor improvement to allow prims up to 64x64 if I still have to hodge-podge 10-20 prims together in order to have a long wall with a door and a few windows just because the hollow feature seams to be hardwired to not only the exact center of a prim no matter what, it must also correnspond with the original Z axis, even if you link it to another root and rotate it.. lol, I guess I am a little spoiled as I trained for a while with uni-graphics and a controlable axis point really was the nuts and bolts of that design software and not having it in the build tool here is quite limiting.

Maelstrom's post is like deja vu, lol. But I have to agree with it again, for the most part. Which is not to say the information and suggestions in the other posts are innacurate or untrue, especially the part about educating people on what does and doesn't work to keep lag down. I really believe though that if it's not tackled soon from the LL end of things that SL will become more and more of an elitist activity, only working acceptably well enough for those that can afford to always have the most recent state of the art technology in our homes and face it, that does not include most of us. And you really can't blame any resident for wanting what is advertised. I mean everything from the promo videos on the main site to add billboards all over the grid depict fantabulous looking avatars doing a variety of activities in any number of fantastical environments. These videos don't even hint at lag even being an issue. And (I wont say 'none' but most content creators are not going to undermine their own sales by warning people upfront that their product may contribute significantly to lag if used on a sim with more than ONE avatar and THREE non-sculpty prims on it, lol Also build designers need to take as much responsibility for it as the people they are expecting to have on their sim. If you're expecting 25 people most of the time. Streamline your build, use a minimalist pallet of textures, take readings and multiply that by 25 because that's essentially what will be happening when those 25 avatars show up to populate your sim. and OMG OMG do NOT put a MALL on the same sim within camming view of your guests no matter what some marketing specialist says. it kills everythng! No one is going to buy anything if the lag is so horrible they can't stand to be there.

Yes it makes sense that if you have chosen to be able to veiw adult content then you are not only obviously ok with seeing it, you may very well be in the middle of 'presenting' it when the crash occurs. It's really the only safe way to do it. It didn't used to be that way. I had several occasions shortly after I started in SL where a mature sim (which at that time included adult content) would crash while I was without clothing and I would log back in and be at the PG club where I worked. I guess it either put you at your last location or most frequently visited. Having that particular job, I can also verify 16's assertion about greifers and their targets. The places I went in mature had very little or no griefing at all basically because no one cared, so their was no payoff for them. In contrast, the PG place had a nearly constant string of people showing up to harrass or challenge the rules or to simply display various forms of duechbagery just for the reaction. They didn't care about the consequences. The fact that it was irritating to ANYONE at all, was payoff enough for them.

Maelstrom Janus wrote: Get a plain prim cube for your avvy or if you actually want to move try rolling along as a sphere... of course you can remove your scripted items hair skin etc etc... or as a Lindens help desk operative told me when I tackled the issue of border crashes where as few attachments as possible - go naked in effect.... heaven forbid anyone actually take the onus away from the user and 'customer' and suggest lindens actually do something to tackle lag.... Amen!! I thought the ARC cops retired about 2 years ago. Of course your sim don't lag when you built it with no one on it! If you build a sim expecting everyone to show up and play bald and with no attachments or looking like a 5 year old newb then...well I guess plan on having a mostly empty sim that's very pretty to look at. Just like people's attachements, every scripted thing on your sims bounces queries of everyone there at regular intervals. add 30 people and you got 30 times the lag. Maybe only one part is showing as coming from your sim but it's what is causing the heavy lag for the other 30. Stop trying to blame the guests. It's your own stuff that's doing it. Just because you got access to nasa's computer don't mean the whole world does, sheesh! I leave sims with scripts off and never return. I didn't pay 2500 for dances to have someone else dictate how I dance when I go out.

Yea, the towers would be the sunspire and it's part of the questline. Without the quest, it would be rather pointless and confusing other than being a good place to pick up crystals if someone didn't just come through there. It's also a good place to get broiled by a meteor if you hang out very long

Veritas Kennedy wrote: P.S. Just found out there is a Viewer 3! Is it worth moving from viewer 1 to it? Yes. You'll need it to see mesh properly, but you may want to look into something other than the standard LL V3. Firestorm is one of the more popular ones, and though it's new, seams like it does real well being compatable with all the latest bells and whistles. I'm not sure if it's the same Edge that you mean but I started nearly 4 years ago now and that was the 1st place I went...for the last 2 weeks it was there. Run by Ms Fairplay if it's the same. I wasn't old enough to work there but had fun joining one of the DJ's in an all girl rockin chorus line of guitar slingin babes. I took my 1st job in SL at a place that sprung up after in the same tradition. Not as old as some here but yes things have certainly changed. I honestly miss the days when ratings were PG and mature. Life was simple then. I either had clothes on or um...not Edit: Oh yea, if you're a person that still uses prims, you'll like V3's capability to make prims up to 60x60. No more scouring the grid for that perfectly sized mega. You can just make what you need now...or maybe that's 'again'

I always liked to keep my land open, but yea, you get some strange things sometimes,lol. I doubt it's a stalker. More likely a vagrant or someone looking for a quiet place to park an alt. If I start to think someone might be up to mischief or nosing around, I just put the land setting on group only for 2 or 3 days until I'm satisfied they have moved on then open it back up. I do enjoy the random passerby and since I like to explore around myself I appreciate the butt pain it is running into banlines every 10 feet when there's no real reason for it. I've actually made my ground level people friendly with a grove of trees and cuddle campfire and even a huntable wolf for those with the right hud and weaponry. I don't advertise it but it's there for anyone that happens to be passing through. As long as you don't show up in my house uninvited or try to take up permanent residence, it's cool.

It finally worked for me tonight and I was able to finish it, yay. Chloe, same spot I was stuck on. I have no idea what I did different. I was even in the same outfit. And I've been using firestorm the whole time too. Last night when I tried and it didn't work, there was another person there stuck at the same point also, so it's pretty safe to say that point in the questline is glitchy. I guess you just have to keep trying?