[Can a creator limit what you do with a transferable object (like prevent you from selling it)?]

End User License Agreement is not a "DMCA Notice". A "DMCA Notice" is a demand to cease and desist. It is a reactive thing, not a proactive thing. As for the selling of transferable items, it's the holder's call whether to do it or not (in the real world in the United States there is a part of the law called "First Sale Doctrine" - which says that once you buy it, you can do anything you want to it, except redistribute it unless it is *used*.

With regard to software licensing, at least, this question was answered by the U.S. Supreme Court, which stated that First Sale doctrine applies only to the original buyer and does not include a right to redistribute (in the case of software code) because it is not considered "used"; Software is synthetic code, for lack of a better description, and when copied, it's "new" again.

All of this being a simplified explanation, of course.

So in the case of what the OP is asking, they could resell their transferable prize if they want. The chances are high that nothing will come of it. However, there is always the risk that the creator could file a DMCA Notice, where Linden Lab will be forced to take it down.

So the question comes to this: If it is taken down by a creators DMCA Notice, and the seller files a counter-claim, is that enforceable? Theory states yes: the seller has the right to resell the item because it is not an intellectual rights question, it is a question of "method of authorized redistibution". If the creator allows the transfer of said item, then the holder is given the right to transfer. There is no stipulation in TOS or otherwise with regard to the *method" of transfer, so long as the system supports it.

So my best guess on the subject is: Yes, you can sell your transferrable items on Marketplace or in-world by right. However, it could open a large can of headache-inducing drama. That is the true risk.

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39 minutes ago, Seicher Rae said:

Saw this sim recently reviewed on Inara Pey's blog, and I fell in love with the sheep herd.  Great photo here.

Thank you. I love that scene and I wondered "how can I tell a story with that?" Inspiration comes easily in the right settings.

[TMP Legacy mesh body]

27 minutes ago, halebore Aeon said:

I give Belleza 2 and a half years to come out with BOM. It took them that long to update to Bento. I actually find for BOM implementation, and I know I am gonna be a traitor for this. I find that Signature did it pretty well. Basically making a bare bones system body, yet giving you a choice to wear the onion layer body, or the system layer body as an update.

Yes, Maitreya did this also, though their implementation is a single-layer body, and the onion skins are add-ons (you wear only the ones you want if still using appliers) - so you never have to change the body, you're always wearing the base. In other words, all the onion layers are there, but they are separate attachable layers that you attach at-will and only the ones you want at the time. I was told the Aesthetic did this for applier clothing, though I'm not sure, that wa s along time ago, though I remember thinking "Huh, that should be a no-brainer". LOL

[How does your avatar look today ?]

Thank you @Conall DeCuir for sharing a great photo-op location.

 

[TMP Legacy mesh body]

2 hours ago, Alyona Su said:

17 hours ago, Atosuria Daviau said:

hate to say this but best mesh body as far as BoM implmentation at the moment is slink. thing is almost as easy to use as the old system bod.

You obviously haven't seen Maitreya's implementation of BOM. I have Belleza, Slink, Eve, Tonic, Legacy, and Maitreya and Maitreya is the new high bar to reach in terms of how to Implement BOM.

 

1 hour ago, halebore Aeon said:

2 hours ago, Alyona Su said:

You obviously haven't seen Maitreya's implementation of BOM. I have Belleza, Slink, Eve, Tonic, Legacy, and Maitreya and Maitreya is the new high bar to reach in terms of how to Implement BOM.

This is how I look at it. To each their own. Everyone is gonna have a different look at how BOM was implemented on the body, and say that is the best. I think the bodies that have implemented BOM, implemented BOM in the best way they could. But hey, that is my opinion.

I agree. Though the post I replied to has nothing whatsoever to do with the Legacy body, so the specific subject was implementation. I find it ironic that the makers of what is, in my personal opinion, the lowest-quality of top-tier mesh bodies has the best implementation of BOM. Specifically, the deformer add-on for BOM-specific items so the system layer stuff doesn't look painted-on, and the way they hide toenails with system socks or stocking. Basically taking the Legacy deformer idea and using it to make BOM even better than what it naturally is.

The Legacy people already have the deformer technique down pat; I have Maitreya clothing that fits better on Legacy than it does on Maitreya. They, the Legacy people, need only create "BOM' versions of those deformers the way Maitreya has.

Now we are left to see what Tonic, Eve, and Belleza do with their implementations.

[Tips rage]

13 minutes ago, AyelaNewLife said:

Fixed your quote for you.

Tipping culture is far from universal in this multicultural mashup that is SL. Hosts and DJs that don't get that can go forth and multiply.

Also my standard tip is 69L; I don't have the disposable income to regularly and consistently tip more, and the immature joke is a nice way to shield myself from entitlement. 

I get your point, but you didn't get mine.

[By the way, when inserting editorial into a quote, square editor's brackets are usually the norm.] 

[How does your avatar look today ?]

8 minutes ago, Aedan Charron said:

You just stole my next shot   Nice job, though

I can be an evil empathic sometimes.  I'm attempting to tell a story (It's valentine time, right? LOL) If it's the story you mean, there are many ways to tell it. 👍 

[What are some of your pet peeves?]

13 hours ago, Beth Macbain said:

People who judge photos (or photographers) based on whether they edit/don't edit/use PS/GIMP/a golf pencil/a piece of poo/etc. instead of just enjoying a photo or scrolling past it and/or unfollowing the person. 

Or better, yet: people who judge artwork/image/creation based on their attitude toward the creator, rather than the merits of the creation.

12 hours ago, Eva Knoller said:

Exactly. Honestly, I don't give two flying farts if people don't like my photos or judge them (lol) because I edit them. Oh the horror of using GIMP on a screenshot taken of a video game (LOL)!  I'm feeling salty tonight.

Precisely, do it for the art in you, not you in the art.

[TMP Legacy mesh body]

14 hours ago, Atosuria Daviau said:

hate to say this but best mesh body as far as BoM implmentation at the moment is slink. thing is almost as easy to use as the old system bod.

You obviously haven't seen Maitreya's implementation of BOM. I have Belleza, Slink, Eve, Tonic, Legacy, and Maitreya and Maitreya is the new high bar to reach in terms of how to Implement BOM.

[How does your avatar look today ?]

 

[Tips rage]

18 minutes ago, Amina Sopwith said:

I didn't know this (never been to Japan but I hope to get there someday, it looks wonderful). May I ask what the reasoning is behind this? I don't understand how it can mean you're not doing your job properly? 

It is cultural mind set (and many Asian cultures). It's not outright "offensive" as long as you do it *right*.

/me hunts for good article because better than trying to explain it herself...

AHAH! Here we go:

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There is no tipping in Japan. It is not customary in Japanese service culture, and may even be interpreted as rude or déclasse. Unlike in so many other countries, tipping is simply not expected by the majority of service workers in Japan. This includes restaurant servers, hotel employees, and cab drivers. You simply pay the price of whatever you’ve purchased — no tip needed.

From this web site  - https://boutiquejapan.com/tipping-in-japan/

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As Oliver Strand wrote in his May 2014 article, How Japan Has Perfected Hospitality Culture, “The service culture of Japan, which always over-delivers, directly contradicts the tipping culture of the United States, which supposedly incentivizes superior service but can have exactly the inverse effect” (bolding is ours).

Edit to ad: It comes down to how a guest is treated. If you want to "tip" your host, rather than money, bring a small gift, even better of it's from your home more hand-made. If all you have is money, then pay for their coffee or something. Money is a trading token, a true gift of thanks comes from inside you, not by throwing more of what you throw around already.

It's sometimes difficult to explain a why about something we just learn while growing up. LOL

[How does your avatar look today ?]

 

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13 minutes ago, LittleMe Jewell said:

Though that sometimes turned into 12/24/36/48 hours

Yes, and at those times, people went ballistic! LOL Then the unannounced things, like, well, remember "Gray Goo" shutting down the grid? Hahaha! I was in world, in some TV shop looking around. The Lindens turned of all scripts across the grid, trying to get a handle on it (about an hour before the entire practically crashed, or they shut it down to prevent it.

This was before I knew I could cam elsewhere then sit on something to get out (scripted sliding doors) - So I spent a half hour reading all the info on every product they had because I was trapped! I couldn't;t get out! If I could just get outride I could, at lease, explore the grid! OMG! I got bored after a half hour and logged out. Hahaha!

And I never did buy anything from that store!

[Return of Last Names]

2 hours ago, S4mCr0ft said:

Hi All,

 

Does anyone know if there has been an update on the return of last names ?

The last I heard was LL were running a competition to find the 5 best suggestions. That ended on the 16th of last month.

 

I know someone will say ... Soon™

This weeks' Web Group meeting, the Lindens said it is now in the home-run stretch (my words)  - they are now rolling our the Simulator software that contains the name0change feature in it, so the next region updates will make the grid ready for it. This is often one of the last few steps of implementing a feature. Though they certainly will continue to test it. A lot. But it is coming and a lot sooner than later.

[Tips rage]

In Japan, a tip is an insult. It is your message they are not doing their job to the best of their ability.

In SL, a tip is a gratuity. If you're not tipped, you're not doing your job to the best of your ability.

[how to add a tag?]

If you mean tagging other people, it is the AT symbol in front of their name, like so @Linnrenate Crosby - As soon as you type the @ and the fist letter of the name a list appears. The list starts filtering down as you type more letters. When the name you want to tag appears, click on it and it will highlight in orange.

It you mean Forum Tile - the little title under your name, I believe you can change that after your 500th post.

[Anti-push shield(orbit)]

56 minutes ago, Anilyse7 said:

Wrong. 

 

It is not against TOS to utilize orbits.

 

Only if they are used FOR GRIEFING.

Know the difference.

Go for it; good luck with that.

[Tos violation?]

28 minutes ago, Wulfie Reanimator said:

It was already explained by many people that what they're talking about is not against TOS. Your explanation didn't really add anything and your comparison was not correct or valid. I don't disagree with your conclusion but it doesn't matter if the path you took is completely wrong.

I disagree that it's wrong. My response was directly to the OP, no one else. If you want to call it misguided, errant, whatever along those lines, then fine that could be (albeit begrudgingly) "fair". But it's not wrong. With that, I will agree to disagree.

[Tos violation?]

37 minutes ago, Wulfie Reanimator said:

You can absolutely arrest someone with intent to commit a crime. Look up "conspiracy" as the closest example to OP. You can also be charged and found guilty of "intent" to do something.

Sure, after a long, deep investigation that yields chargeable evidence.

In the terms of what the OP is describing, good luck with that. There's nothing in the TOS that describes what OP describes. OP can file an AR and let the Lindens determine any wrong-doing or not. They can surely sensor the forums, but cannot otherwise prevent a discussion on such things. I could have explained all that, created a wall-o-text no one cares to read, but no: I choose the pithy, direct explanation, which is 100% correct and you know it. You can debunk me by proffering the details I know about and that no one cares about because irrelevance to the conversation at hand, it doesn't make my OC wrong. It's a contextual thing that many in the forums seem to miss a lot.

[What are some of your pet peeves?]

1 hour ago, Orwar said:

   I do edit most of my shots to some extent, but I'd rather spend 5 minutes extra in SL to set it up properly than sitting in Gimp for 2 hours trying to correct things by hand and getting a result which generally feels 'off'. I think that the whole 'no edits' elitist attitude is as detrimental to a person who's just getting into SL, as the 'five-filter-minimum' shenanigans a large portion of the SL bloggers do for no good reason. To say that only one or the other is art, and that everything else is trash, is just pointless and opinionated. Let people do whatever they want, if you don't like their stuff, fair do's - but what a bloody boring world we'd live in if everyone only did the same thing and had the same taste.

   If real life, professional photographers use touch-ups and cropping, why should we set the bar higher for happy amateurs?

   That said, hip-hop, rap and jazz still ain't music. 😡

Blasphemer.

28 minutes ago, Scylla Rhiadra said:

Heathen.

Heretic.

Music is that which most call classical, a.k.a. Composed and orchestrated, i. e. Beethoven. The rest is just white-noise.

Hahahaha!

[There can be only one...]

58 minutes ago, AdminGirl said:

Would be cool to have the option to still see everyone's usernames when 'Show friends only' has been selected.. so you don't have to render everyone but avoid bumping into them.

I use minimap, then just start walking and avoiding the green dot.

S.I.M.

P.L.E.

[Anti-push shield(orbit)]

These were available a long time ago. I'm not sure, but I believe they were deemed as briefer tools and so they are against Community Standards. Anything that "orbits" is. Though it's not difficult to create a simple "push"-shield" that bumps people back if they bump into the shield.

Perhaps it is a great opportunity to learn about LSL scripting? I'm not a "scripted", but I know enough about LSL that I'm pretty sure I could make something like this.

Your better solution is to use a MOVE-LOCK tool or HUD. It's built into some viewers and there are attachments and HUDs that do the same.

[Tos violation?]

17 hours ago, Anilyse7 said:

I was recently witness to a long discussion involving PLANS and methods to create chairs that will not only SPECIFICALLY skip asking for permissions but automatically steal prims from the sitter without them knowing.

The discussion was about HOW to do so and involved confirmed future plans.

 

One of these people is a succesful creator.

 

I have screenshots. What can be done? Is this reportable? 

In the U.S., at least, calling an idea or speech about something that could be illegal is, in itself called "Prior Restraint" and not a legal thing to do. So until said product exists, there's nothing anyone can or should do about it. If you yell "bomb" in an airport, they will take you into a back room for a couple hours, but they cannot arrest you. Eventually, they slap your hand, wash your mouth with soap, then send you on your way.

Talking about it is not a naughty thing. Acting on it (as in following through) is a naughty thing. Know the difference.

[Updates on Premium and the return of First & Last names?]

1 hour ago, Garnet Psaltery said:

That sounds like an expensive detergent.

IKR!!!?  LOL

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8 minutes ago, Garnet Psaltery said:

I admit to the same hazy memory.  I'm often astonished when people say "Do you remember x y and z when they a b and c'd?" and I don't remember, even when I was there.  

I can usually remember once it's mentioned. It's the time-line that is really fizzy to me. For example, I remember (way before mesh or sculpts or multi-sitter scripts) when sitting on a pose ball and adding or removing part of your outfit (BOM clothing system layer for all you NEWBIES! LOL) - and it would pop you off the pose ball! But I couldn't tell you anything more than the year (late 2006 if I remember right) and I could even have that wrong.

It was amazingly annoying during ~cough~ foreplay ~cough, cough~ LOL