Thanks Mitch, I was hoping it wasn't just me. I have actually sat this morning and watched multiple people 'try' to enter the Delby Depths sim, only to drift out into space, vessels vanish and avis stuck in drivers poses. I have stripped my avi down to invisible wearing just 1 hud (9 scripts+11 in the jetskii), same results. Maybe safe to assume that region is borked .. guess i will try to go around behind the lighthouse and see what happens.