Lizard Howl

www.segarraestates.com

I understand your confusion. The land you need to find is called Mainland. Even though you do need a Premium membership to own it, its not called Premium land. Go figure. Anyways, how to find it will depend on what Viewer you use. The process varies slightly if you are using Phoenix Viewer or Viewer 3 or whatever, but basically this is what you need to do: Log in and search for land. Click Control-F or the magnifying glass. Search for Mainland: size 16384sqm. You can actually get land as large as 16896sqm if you are at the $75 tier fee and have no other mainland, so if you want to, search for a larger land. Sort the land by price. You may have to click a little arrow. Teleport from land to land. Look for land that is flat, green, and square. That will be the easiest to build on, and the easiest to resell later. When you find a land you like, right click on it and buy it. Be aware that you will need some Ls to pay for the land itself. I hope this helps. Happy hunting! Lizard

PrncssBrooklynn Rexie wrote: I want to build a club, what area is best and how much sim do i need. plus i want to pay MONTHLY for the sim around us$25.00. i know clubs if going good can get crouded, so 20 ppl at the most so in short 1.$25.00 mnth tier 2.at least 20 guests For $25 per month you can get 4096 sqm, 937 prims on an Estate. On Mainland you can get 4608 sqm, 1054 prims, maybe a teeny more if you own it as Group land. With 20 avis on the land they will probably be right on top of each other, literally. As far as what area is "best" for a club, you might try looking for a commercial district. If you can find a region that already has shops or clubs you might benefit from their traffic. Good luck! Lizard Howl Segarra Estates Owner

Violet Stuer wrote: Nobody really could answer that question so far, maybe some of you can help. If I open a club, not commercial, no fees: can I stream cds there without violating any laws? How do all the DJs play music in the clubs, illegally? Many thanks, Violet Hi Violet. The only legal way to stream music (if you live in USA) is to pay artists royalties. All the DJs, as you say, are likely breaking the law. Thanks for asking, and good luck with that! Lizard

If talking to your neighbor doesnt work, talk to your Estate Owner, or file a support ticket if this is Mainland. This is prim encroachment. Not only is it annoying, its against ToS and also one of my pet peeves! Good luck! Lizard Howl Segarra Estates Owner

Segarra Estates Full Prim Sim For Sale No Covenant 65536m 15000 prims Purchase for 1L + tier 82,000L/month (28 days) Estate Manager rights will be granted with sim purchase. Enjoy! http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Sinners%20Bay/130/128/23

Segarra Estates Full Prim Sim For Sale No Covenant 65536m 15000 prims Purchase for 1L + tier 82,000L/month (28 days) Estate Manager rights will be granted with sim purchase. Enjoy! http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Sinners%20Bay/130/128/23

Melita Magic wrote: If the person reselling did not have the permission of the landlord, and the landlord has not approved the second buyer nor added them to the land group, then the second buyer will be out their money. I think that's what they are saying is the problem. Exactly Melita. Whether or not this is a violation of ToS it certainly isn't ethical. Certainly it is an Estate Owner's choice to sell land for 1L and to allow it to be resold. We were in business over four years before we went to the 1L price. The only reason we did so is because of how Search works. SL Search is such that only the selling price of the land affects how you show in the listing. I could list at 1000L and never get any business, or list at 1L and get sales all day long. The trade off is having to deal with knuckleheads who buy land without paying tier. Small annoyance, but for me its worth it. Lizard

Phil Deakins wrote: You said it is being done to "break SL ToS" but your second post indicates that it's just putting the price up and selling it on. Can you be clear about it? Is it just selling it on for a profit, or does the land get used to break the SL ToS? Selling at a profit is good business, incidentally, and in no way breaks any SL ToS. If you don't want the buyers to sell at a profit, then isn't there a setting that will prevent people from selling the land? Phil - You are missing the point entirely. None of us thinks that selling land for a profit is a bad idea. What these people are doing is buying land for 1L, then attempting to resell the land WITHOUT PAYING TIER. In effect, not only are they scamming the Estate Owner, they are also trying to scam whoever re-buys the land. Lizard

Make sure you have the right category selected. Also, and this is critical, make sure you set a Landing Point and have the traffic land at the Landing Point. Hope that helps!

This is nothing new, and it is the price you pay for listing land at 1L. As far as letting other Estate Owners know what is going on, we have a group dedicated for that! It is called Inworld MeGaBaN. Any time your land is griefed let us know. Don't ban them from just one Estate - ban them from 100s of Estates and 1000s of sims! IM Lizard Howl for a group invite

Being an Estate Manager does indeed grant you a variety of rights and abilities to control your sim. There are 4 things that an Estate Owner can do with a sim, that an Estate Manager can not: 1. Rename the Region 2. Move the Region 3. Sell the Region 4. Upload/Download RAWs.

Vivienne Daguerre wrote: 1. If I set parcels for sale, I still retain rights as an estate owner, correct? 2. Would I be able to reclaim that land if the purchaser did not pay or abandoned it? 3. Does the purchaser have to pay their tier to me through a rental box, or do the Lindens automatically deduct it from their account and pay me? 4. If one purchaser "purchased" all of the parcels, could I end up not owning my estate anymore? I don't want to lose it! 5. Any advice on terraforming, what to permit and if it is possible to limit how much others can terraform? 6. Do you need a separate group for each parcel, or how do you manage groups and deeding and such? I am not new to SL and have owned this estate for a very long time, but I have not played landlord on this scale before. Thanks! I know we compete, but I have found SL residents to also be very cooperative and helpful. Hi Vivienne - Great questions! I'm working on a how-to book, and I have some tips on my blog, but let me adress your specific questions since you asked so nicely. For ease of answering I have added #s to your orginial post. 1. Yes. 2. Yes. If your customer Abandons the land or if you Reclaim a land it will revert back into your name. 3. You are responsible for collecting your own tier, the Lindens will not do it. It is a good idea to use rent boxes but you could simply have people pay you directly. If you do use rent boxes set aside a small commons area for them, like 512 or 1024sqm. That way your customers have a central location where they pay. I recommend ABTech Rental for an easy, rez-and go tier system. 4. No they can't, and no you won't. You pay tier to LL, thats what makes you the Estate Owner. In other words, you own the Region. Your customer could own the 65536sqm parcel that makes up your sim, but you are still the Estate Owner. 5. In the World-->Region/Estate menu you can set your terraformining limits. If you want to keep it flat like a pancake, dont allow terraforming. I find that +/- 50m allows for nice hills and rivers without people being able to go too crazy. Experiment and see what setting works best for your needs. 6. Easy - don't bother with groups. Sell the parcel to your customer and let them do what they want with it. Its a good idea to have a group for your customers to join so they can communicate with you and vice-versa, but you dont need to muck about with Deeding land. I hope that helps. Any other questions, just ask. Have fun, and good luck! Lizard Howl Segarra Estates Owner

Jorges Pedalo wrote: Sage advice, thank you! We already have the regions adjoining and I was simply thinking it would be nice if things like bans, allowed residents, estate messages and the like were able to work across the regions, but it sounds like actual ownership of the region must be held by the same person and that is not acceptable. I don't see any way for a group to own a region, only parcels within the region, correct? Hi Jorges - You are correct. For every Estate there can be only one owner. This must be an avatar, not a group. You can have a group of sims all stuck together and each having a different Estate and Estate (Region) Owner. The only way around this would be to use an alt. If you have partners and decide to start a land business together, you *could* put everything in the name of an alt that you both have access to. Be careful, not only is this risky but it may be against Terms of Service. I'm not advising you to do this, I'm just letting you know that's about the only way to do what you want to do. :matte-motes-wink: Have fun, and good luck! Lizard Howl Segarra Estates Owner

yep. we also have a wide variety of No Covenant land available to suit your needs. you can see our current listings here: http://www.segarraestates.com/land.html and here: http://www.segarraestates.com/land2.html good luck! Lizard Howl Segarra Estates Owner

Hi Ethen, Amethyst I'm glad to see discussion going about Estate lands good, bad, and in-between. The more people know about what to do and what to look out for the less people will get ripped off. I used to think that looking for the large, stable Estates was the way to go, but recently I am reading stories about good sized Estates disappearing off the grid! Amethyst has the right idea about vacancies: if you can somehow determine the # of vacancies or % of vacant land an Estate has, that is a good indication of the stability of the Estate. No matter what you find, don't spend more up front than you have to. Be wary of deals that sound too good to be true, or ask for a certain amount of Ls up front and promise a lot of tier for the Ls. It's easy to promise 6 month's of tier (for any rate) if you are leaving SL in a week. Finally, if you haven't yet, take a look at the articles I posted years ago on my website. Some of the numbers have changed, but the principles remain the same. Have fun, and good luck! Lizard Howl Segarra Estates Owner

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Amethyst Jetaime wrote: Anytime I buy land on a private estate I not only talk to the estate owner, but to other people who have land there and find out what they like and don't like about the estate. I also only buy land on estates that have been around a long time and have the majority of all their sims occupied. That's a good sign of financial stability and good service. Amethyst - Thank you! You hit the nail on the head. I've been telling people to do something similar for years, but nobody actually does this. If you do, good for you! Also, if you don't mind I'd like to quote you in my blog. That is the best, most specific advice I have seen on buying estate land since, well, ever. Lizard Howl Segarra Estates Owner

There's plenty of good money to be made buying islands and renting them out. I've been doing it since 2007 and profit every month. I'm in the process of writing a How To book about it taking you step by step from nothing to Land Baron. It should be on the market later this year, in the meantime Im posting tips and tricks on my blog: http://www.virtualbreadwinner.com/blog Hope that helps! Lizard

Any refugees from this mess are welcome at Segarra Estates, where we have been in business since 2007, and in profit every month since January 2008. thanks for bringing this to our attention!

Just ask Linden Labs if they will release the name for you. I've had it done for me, never hurts to ask. If you can open a Live Chat thats the best way, if not, try filing a ticket. Good luck!

Hi Ethen - There aren't any land agencies like that, that I know of. How would you pay for their help if it was offered? The SL land business, as you have noticed by now, is very competitive. Someone who is good at keeping islands full probably has their own Estate already. If anything you might try hiring a sales person or Estate Manager. Also, keep an eye on my blog. I post helpful tips from time to time. Best of luck! Lizard Howl Segarra Estates Owner PS my blog is here: http://www.virtualbreadwinner.com/blog

hi Cassandra - message me in world: Lizard Howl or skype me: gatorzilla3000 Ive been a land baron since 2007 and would be happy to chat with you

I have 3 listed on this site: http://www.segarraestates.com/land.html and 1 listed on this site: http://www.segarraestates.com/land2.html any one of them should suit your needs enjoy!

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