Hellespont Hoorenbeek

15000/p full region for sale Purchase price has to includes the $100,- USD transfercosts. Full estate manager acces can be provided as soon as the ticket is made from both sizes, Tier is due at the 9th of the month, Open for offers! CONTACT POLICY:I only accept in-world replys via a notecard, Send your offer in $ (USD) and secondlife first/lastname in a notecard to Hellespont Hoorenbeek. (IM and fake displaynames will be ignored) If i agree to your offer i will contact you back a.s.a.p. , When the region is sold this forum post will be deleted.

Forget v3 try v1 instead! the download is findable at the wiki: old versions. (viewer 1.23.5) most stable most fast NEVER a single crash! FACT

@Faye: I wish more people whoul follow your style and kind ways to comment...... whould you marrie me?:matte-motes-inlove: I am getting so tired of some people here and am not goint to reply everything just do us all a favor and research some things befor posting your thoughts it gets twisted and missing the point compleetly. my original post was "Hands of viewer 1.23 / Phoenix" i had hoped a lot of people whould agree with me and was ment as a wake up call for LL to keep it alive and avalable to download, But all i see is LL fans that diss me this is unfair just pay some respect to ther people that do like v1 styled viewers just because they "inc myself" cant deal with v2/v3 interfaces.....yes v2 interfaces aka Firestorm viewer. For example why does LL not implantate Starlight skins in viewer 3?? give people the option to v1 the v3 viewer in several ways then i dont have to post here and a lot of people will be very happy yes i like blue and grey do you like black that much? i dont think you do viewer 2 was just a ripoff from windows vista and since vista is bad the whole viewer 2 was bad designed v3 is a bit better yes but come on it is still a bad viewer that doesnt allow people to customize it in a way to again.... make it more v1 able and that is my point! Hellespont.

Karma Avedon you are just as stupid as the people that run LL Livechat by thinking in your eyes "older viewers" produce lag this is incorrect a person withs is using a v1 interface styled viewer can never in what so ever way make your sl or others in world or out world where or what ever laggy your a joke viewers dont make other people laggy, LL SecondLife servers and your own viewer settings or viewer use makes YOU laggy. I have one word for you: N-O-O-B. You see what i mean now with wasting my time people?, not worth 1 cent. - I will not use viewer 2 or 3 interfaces because i like my viewer 1.23.5 and i respect you to use v2 or v3 interface viewers you need to start respecting others aswell did you for example know 45% of the SecondLife residents is using a v1 based viewer? - Does the people that post here aactually know not everybody likes: Lagg on a prim < Media on a prim, Fake display names, Black dark un unserfriendly interface viewers, Viewer and server updates weekly and most of all hate the lastname for new account holders as Resident? [i will not even start about mesh] - Does nobody of all the Linden Fan Boys club know how bad the marketplace can be and how worse LL Livechat is? I mean get it together and face the facts that this is all a joke and really needs to be improved ( LL is not working on improvements!! they just mess around!) TC.

I should have known everybody replying here is highly active in the SL blogs, It has no point to complain at SL forums as there will be only Linden Lab fan boys who read this and diss me. (not worth the time)

Linden Lab is clearly lost track since viewer 1.23x is removed from the TPVD and the download is missing aswell, Continue like this forcing people to "lagg on a prim", "fake display names", "terrible new viewer interfaces", "crappy mesh" is a way to kill SL and make things even more poor then they allready are. Shops cant sell items because search is always having problems not even talking about the marketplace, Landowners can hardly sell land because everything is going to be noob-based what is wrong with you people at Linden Lab (ulgh!) you make me puke!! Clear your heads there in San Fransisco and start working on less server lagg less isssues make a compleet new viewer based on snowglobe 1.5 do something or continue like this and destroy SL. Philip Linden you are missed right now the people current on top are making a mess of things, I hope you read this and can change theire minds. Resident from 2007, That is seeing a terrible SL renovation! FIX THE MESS!

@ Decro/Felicia: I am really scratching my head wondering how i can tell you both a way to make it more clear then i allready do, So here we go last time: 1. Get your facts right please, Viewer 1.23.5 is the most stable viewer there is LL knows this in fact you can even onitor this at the donwload page>secondlife.com/downloads>thirth party viewer directory> ..... it shows viewer 1.23.5 as most stable viewer ther listed in the ratings even above the oh so fancy phoenix viewer. Now i shall tell you both that i really do prefer to use LL viewers if they are workable for me the only viewer that i can enjoy my secondlife with is simply viewer 1.23.5 it is easy fun and no updates anymore so no bugs and problems thats also why it is rock stable and nr1 in the TPVD. 2. For the record i had to use viewer 3.x because my viewer 1.23.5 doesnt show mesh, But to again be clear about this i am not impressed by mesh and i also dont see the point of it yes it is slow its all beta wake up guys. just because LL is adding new stuf doesnt mean it is rock stable! 3. The overall point is LL should be fixing problems befor adding new features like mesh withs only gives more bugs and updates, If something is good then hands off! take for example sim servers didnt you become nuts the last couple months from all the updates and restarts? I stick to viewer 1.23.5 it is the only way for me to enjoy my secondlife, if you dont agree thats fine i respect your opinion and also hope you do respect mine (period) my 2cents.

@Felicia: Thats not true as you might know everybody started with viewer 1.x in 2007/2008 most older residents dont like the new interface look, It is not user friendly and not designed to play sl in a fun way like it supose to be. So if you do like new viewer releases thats good for you but remember that there are also people who simply cant deal with the high amounth of changes LL is making. @Decro: You said you hate viewer 1.x this doesnt make any since at all its obviuosly that you dont have a clue what your talking about but let me explane it very simpl, new viewers have the same screem as older viewers the only change is the user interface thats all so hating viewer 1.x isnt realistic to post it makes you look a bit noobish aswell. .....thanks for recommend me something and save money to buy a fast pc although its not really needed i allready have one withs is faster then the recommended stats LL is posting under downloads, again viewer 1.x isnt diffrent in your screem then viewer 2.x/3.x at all it is just the user interface!

@ Lela Aabye Well said i totaly agree

Mesh is a joke, We have sculpt what the point of the laggy mesh crap? Instead of all this new release junk Linden Lab does they chould better make all the residents happy and redevelop viewer 1.23.5! FREE TIPS FOR LINDEN LAB TO IMPROVE SECOND LIFE! * Redevelop Snowglobe v1.4.2 and release cadidate v1.5.0 * Abandon viewer 2.0 and 3.0 software directly * Abandon displaynames directly * Abandon standaard lastnames "Resident" (for the love of god) directly into the trashcan!) * Add the lastname generator back for new accountholders and give the allready named lastname Resident accounts the options to pick a desent lastname, Whould be nice! * Abandon mesh its terrible and has no point at all, Get real sculpt is there allready! * Quit server weekly updates its compleetly idiotic, buggy and problematic * Linden Lab whants to make money and is always thinking of themselfs doesnt isten to its customers, Livechat is a joke, XstreetSL "Marketplace" is worse then it ever was just face it continue like this and more and more people will stop playing SL. (When the day comes Linden Lab is blocking my good old viewer 1.23.5 i quit SL as protest and abandon my sim Helion Island.)

Hi Rod Humble, A quick intro of what you can expect and how to improve Second Life!!! 1st: of all your new name will become: RodHumbleResident when you are making a ALT account as we all know your main account will be RodLinden but ok what i whanted to say with this is bring back the namegenerator to start that whould make a lot of "residents" very happy! 2nd: i whould like to say please test v1.23.5 and when done that then test the ugly and crap of v2.0 make your own mind open and dont listen to EsbeeLinden or TorleyLinden for what we your paying residents whould like to keep avaidable to play our Second Life's with withs is v1.23.5 please this is a emergency call redevelop Snowglobe! Yes Rod Humble you can do a lot to make our dymonds above our heads green again like you know that game The Sims! 3th for the love of god please do something about server lagg i pay enough $ to your company and all we get in trade is a laggy simulation this is simply not fair how about you decraise tiers from $295,- to $195,- so Second Life can grow again! 4th: fix search, whitout a working search machine people cant buy land cant buy items and Second Life will become compleetly hopeless! 5th: show yourself in world, show that you care about the Linden Lab customers let us know you will trying to safe our Second Life's and let us know you will do your best to make us all happy again we had a lot of changes lately with region rating adult/mature/pg, then the prices for homesteads and open sims whent up and people starting to abandon their sims massifly. There are less people in world by the day noobs will come but also go be aware that the people that your company has now are your main customers and these are not the newcomers so listen to us! SAFE OUR SECONDLIFE'S MR.HUMBLE!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ looking for a boat? Twins Craft Marine - Realistic Watercrafts looking for land? The Hellespont Estates - Helion Island Come visit us if search isnt working then teleport via the map it might show up grey but what the heck it might wor you never know!

Very well said Bigger Halfpint and your compleetly right here is where you can find what Bigger is talking about: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Third_Party_Viewer_Directory It shows viewer 1.23 as the most stable viewer, Unbelievable that LL is destroying a wonderfull workable viewer for builders, Estate owners and for the older residents that play SL for over years and years. I also stand for redevelopment of Snowglobe! FOCUS LINDEN LAB! FOCUS ABOUT YOUR CUSTOMERS!

@Bigger Halfpint: I totaly agree to that lets hope Jack says sorry and moves on with Snowglobe development. @Horatio Hartshon: A tip dont use more then 1 viewer on your pc it is making issues a lot like for example v1.23.5 and v2.something they dont seems to share things like clothings you can easy lost things i lost my shoes and hair for godsake! had to rebuy them and LL will not help you with that trust me. @ Wynochee LeShelle: Im also back to 1.23.5 its still the best viewer avaidable afterall and official LL aswell, Dont get it why they sopt development on this. @Irodreth Daviau: TOTALY AGREE WELL SAID! Now lets hope LL is reading this oh and for Jack, Wallance and Torley Linden we RESIDENTS arent excited about this at all please start fixing the choas!

@Jack Linden: This viewer release is like other v2 ones a total waste of my time trying it out, What a mess unbelievable really. I hope Philip Rosendahl finds a new CEO for LL soon that will fix all the choas Linden lab is releasing these days. V2.0,2.1,2.2,2.3 and 2.4 BIG FAILURE'S!

Hello Torley, Its me! Hellespont how nice of you to mention my name in this totorial thank you so much it almost makes ma a moviestar. Anyways it seems you always make vids for noobs and not or less for the residents that are longer in SL then just a few days you know? Im online for over 3years my best times where in 2007/2008 from 2008 SL seems to go on a track most residents dont like with viewer 2 for example and displaynames option. So to be short please make a totorial about how to get the library out of the inventory LL says these items does not effect the count of the total amount of items in the inventory but they are so wrong the library counts 1400+ items withs most residents might like to get rid of so the AO reply on the vid was a joke but for some reason you toke it serieusly thats allright, but take this then serieusly also and be the first Linden that is offering help to residents. (Friendly greetings is yours so i shall just add something els) Mega kind greetings! Hellespont Hoorenbeek.

shocking tutorial this is the first Linden ever wearing a AO (for the noobs under us AO is also known as a Animation Overdrive) OMG R-E-V-O-L-U-T-I-O-N!!! now come wth revolution on the crappy viewer 2 please and make it look like v1 thanks!

@ Joe Utherwurldly : Yes this is a long logg allready indeed, And boring maybe your right as long if persons blogging things like you do it sure is im not English/USA/Canadian so a typo with boobys or boobies is not that big of a deal people understand what is ment with it. Maybe you dont feel like there is a reason for bouncing boobys/boobies but for others this it is so better keep you personal thoughts out of this and dont attack people like you do. For example Emerald/Phoenix has a option with the boobys/boobies where i was talking about it only shows how really stupid you are not even having a cleu what to talk about soever. My side hurts also from the stupidness of your post TY Joe! (You dumbass) @ Torley Linden: Torley im still waiting for a reply about a tutorial how to buy land in viewer 2.0 "series" is there allready one and so yes chould you maybe be so kind to let a lot of people know about it?

@ Serith Heafnir: First of all your the biggest retard blogging this crap, If you really think dowloading a newer version of the sl viewer is not a big issue well then your so wrong i asume your running sl without changing things in debug and prefrences and your screem position with the layout like building. It cost me about 30min everytime i change to a update and i dont whant to update every month i deleted library junk out of my inventory good for 1400+ items all crap and useless junk this is just a example why i delete that? well it cost more time to load the inventory! I deleted classic clouds because they are lagy as hell and footprint shadow etc etc etc....... so yes i have a problem with the useless updates sl is ffooling us with indeed so what is that your problem is that something you may judge me about you f****tard? And i tryed Imprudence by the way totay dont like that viewer so im back to 1.23.5 withs is stable at least. @Torely Linden: What about making a fancy new crap videos how to buy land in that viewer 2.0 "series" because people dont even know how to buy land when running viewer 2.0 "series"!! I must tell them all the time to download viewer 1.23.5 and then buy the land because then its working FINE! send me that link if you made the vidtutorial. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Whant to get pissed off about your Second Life? And starting to thinking to quit it all? Then download viewer 2.0 "series"!

Im still waiting for the day Linden Lab is bringing some good news because this sure isnt any good!, A few tips that residents whould like to have in a viewer. 1. Remove the sidebar 2. Remove the navigationbar 3. Add skins to the viewer (Make the back optional not the only choice) 4. Add the functionality of viewer 1.23.5 to viewer "2.0 series" 5. Add bouncing boobys to the viewer 6. Add radarchat to the viewer 7. Fix the downloadpage (other viewers are hard find!!!) 8. Fix search and traficcountings 9. Spend more attention to the suppport tickets and reply them 10. Stop updating viewers so manny times people are getting sick of all thos updates just come with a desent viewer and do a 6 monthly update instead of every month or almost every 2weeks! Can anybody tell me if Imprudence is a decent viewer?

Second Life 1.23.5 (136262) Oct 14 2009 12:08:26 (Second Life Release) Congrats Linden Labs viewer 1 is a year old and still running fine, To use viewer 1 check out the download section monitor: www.secondlife.com/support/downloads

@ Nelson Linden: To read that "All" retail private region maintenance, including grandfathered pricing stays the same as they are now is the best news ive heard in the last half year from Linden Labs, I do think this news is sad to non profit sims though but am happy simprices does not change till end 2011 for my Estate Helion Island. Now Linden Labs has to come up with a desent viewer for all residents and making shopping on XstreetSL/SLexchange/Marketplace less buggy and provide a 24/7 support on the LiveChat again then i think most residents will be happy to stay and enjoy there Second Life's. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Helion Island where your dreams come true!

To: Miss Ventura Im sorry if you felt like im dissing you because that line is more by matter of speak like the ".............." says it all, Are you family from Ace Ventura by the way? Anyways i think i made my point if you like it or not i dont care much.

Embrace the change and give it a try?? whahaha no thanks i did and this is what ive done to it: instal>logged on>crashed>logged back on>saw the crap of it>uninstaled it>empty trash>downloaded viewer 1.23.5 and if that goes offline well luckly enough we have 3th party viewers also!

Not true Jaylin you dont seems to understand the point correctly

That is not on you to deside it is not old is it not closed and it is not over for a lot a lot and a lot of residents you are talking compleetly nonsens. There is a forum showing what is your favorit viewer viewer1 stands above viewer2 i dont "lick a lindens ass" like you do. Just tell the true and not what you think of our LL friends lets face it: XstreetSL or i still call that SLX is destroyd with the new marketplace harder to find items takes longer and is not easyer to use at all, Then LL homes a total wasted of time and money andd Estate owners like myself are not happy with it at all, Adult/PG/Mature rules destroyed a lot of peoples homelocations/shoplocations loosing customers in stores/sims, Then they changed the viewer and upgraided it to the trainwreck that is called viewer2. Now i do agree with you is it good they try to listen and maintain to change it they way we whant it to have but for the love of god why so slowly get rid of that freaking sidebar compleetly we dont whant it (im talking for about 85% of the sl-residents you must be on the other 15% , Thats ok for me i respect your opinion you respect mine i hope), And if we think that was it oh no.......Avatars United is closed, Emerald was banned but came back with the same download and instal as in the name of Phoenix? where will this maddnes end? I keep hoping they keep v1.23.5 running and last update was on October 2009 why not just add snowglobe 1.5 features and bugfixes into v1.23.5 and call it viewer 1.5 keeps a lot of people happy im sure of that and besides viewer 1 is stil the best one to run from all the avaidable downloads. Remember this is my opinion Winter and also from a lot others that ar playing Sl for such a long time allready. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Need land? Visit Helion Island only one parcel left for sale be fast buy today! Need a Boat? Twins Craft Marine - Realistic Watercrafts!