Solar Legion

The answer to that is fairly simple enough: Some bonehead at the time thought Web-based profiles for Second Life was The Way To Go as it gave the profiles a Social Media Feel. You know, because every profile just needed a Feed and a comment section .... I cannot roll my eyes hard enough at that ...

In a prior post I gave both my personal feelings on zero warning systems - those set to cover an entire parcel at any rate. Personally I'd like to see such setups restricted (by hard worded and actually enforced policy) to use inside buildings/skyboxes. I myself use a similar setup at my Den (parcel rented out on an Island) though with more warning - a setup I'd mirror on Mainland once I can find a decent parcel at a decent enough price. The only real way to do as you describe - an inner and outer layer - is to use more than one copy of a given security system: Parcel encompassing system set at ground level/centralized location/anywhere on parcel Individual systems set where needed/desired Parcel encompassing system set to reasonable delay or otherwise shut off (criteria determined by parcel owner) In my own setup, I turn on the parcel level before logging in or when I leave the parcel (when I remember to) or when I have specific company over and do not wish to be disturbed - said system is set (on all levels/setups) to ignore users in a specified group and with a Whitelist of individuals.

Unless I am rather missing something here, said banlines have never - outside of those explicitly denied access using the system level controls - extended up past a rather specific (and rather limited) distance from parcel ground. The entire point/draw of scripted security systems is that they allow a level of granularity that does not exist at system level. At system level you have the following options: Allow Public Access 18+ PIOF Only Allow (Group) Sell Passes Explicit Access List Explicit Ban List That's it. Scripted security systems allow you to leave Access set to public - so that users can pass through - while still ensuring they do not linger. This is a function that should have been implemented system side and wasn't - plans for it early on or not.

And none were implemented - so the statement stands. Plans are worthless - in this context - if not implemented. Bringing them up is about as useful as trying to argue semantics.

Except they didn't see it coming nor did they try to avoid it - from any direction at that. Did they try and compromise? Yes, they did and still do by allowing user scripted security along with the visibility option added in at system level. Unfortunately that does not seem to be enough for some vehicle users or explorers nor do they seem to understand just how very limited that visibility option really is. Heck, they don't seem to understand that while the person paying for the parcel can be a right arse and have a no warning system set up ... such is not the case for most. Is being teleported home an appropriate response even after being given a warning and ample time to heed it? Until Linden Lab says otherwise, it is - personal feelings to the contrary or not.

I have a whole slew of users on Ignore, Theresa - most for fairly good, if personal, reasons. If this thread were indeed as you have described in intent, said intent was subverted very quickly by users who feel their personal desires outweigh/subvert/supplant the desires/intent of those actually paying for the parcels they're passing through. Personal feelings are largely irrelevant here as well: Linden Lab allows these systems to exist and - thus far - has not punished users with highly restrictive (no warning) security systems. Like it or not, they allow them to exist and the very language quoted in this (and at least one other) thread is not worded in any way other than as a suggestion or general guideline. As I said earlier, Parhelion has the right idea.

Looking at the page linked by Whirly ... I see the following line: Mind I cannot say if this shows up when not logged into Second Lfe's web pages and honestly see no reason why you'd not be logged in if you have an account. Using mobile or not. Notes indeed appears missing. In short, you do not need to be logged into the actual Second Life client to see a user's DOB. Now they just need to add Notes to it.

If they return to the original profile system, those do show Notes as well as DOB.

Ah yep, there's another attempt at semantics and a rather poor one at that ... The vehicle and owner may well simply be passing through but they are still at the whim of the user paying for the parcel. Said user may well have chosen to allow the general public to pass through but have set up additional security to make it clear that sticking around is not an option. Such granularity does not presently exist in the system level controls, thus the use of orbs and similar. users who have set their systems to cover the entire parcel and give little to no warning before ejection are indeed a problem - that really isn't (from what I have seen thus far) the bone of contention here. What is however, is the attitude that being on Mainland should confer an automatic pass to any vehicle user to pass through a parcel. Some are being reasonable about this and actually acknowledge that their desire to take their vehicle where they choose does not trump the wishes of the users paying for the parcels they pass through. Others ... not so much. It is the prerogative of the user paying for the parcel to allow Access to everyone or not. It is also their prerogative to allow others to simply pass through while disallowing users sticking around. That is all there is to it.

No, it isn't. But you already knew that. Again, enough with the semantic "arguments" - you're being very silly now.

That's nice. It's also irrelevant.

I see someone gets it.

What part of my post did you not understand? Read it again. And again. And again. Reread it until you understand. Then stop trying to argue semantics. ETA: To be absolutely clear here - no part whatsoever. I'm dismissing it entirely - as it should be - solely because you really ought to know full well that the access settings have no bearing whatsoever on intended use of a parcel. How the parcel is arranged, its description and indeed being searchable (in some instances) denotes its status as public usage.

Sorry, no. The absence of ban-lines/revocation of the ability for every user to enter your parcel does not equate to public use. It allows for such, should the one paying for the parcel wish to do so. Seriously, this many pages and it is devolving into an "argument" over semantics ... Parhelion has the right idea here.

Oh for ... As usual, that one simply doesn't listen ...

Then either state such from the beginning or make sure to quote the person you're responding to for context - especially if you're responding to something said a page or two back (or even the original post) when in a topic more than a page or two long. If the price seems too good to be true, don't buy it. Also remember these are limited quantity.

Resellers take "rarity" and "pull cost" into account when making their listings. Your experience is not typical.

Ah yes, more complaints about an issue that is often solved by simply not using the in client web browser... Or by following basic troubleshooting steps first while not trying to claim a function simply doesn't work...

Oddly, it only seems to "stick" when viewing one's own Wishlist or Favorites.

Why some users insist on not setting their Marketplace results/general settings to show 96 items a page, I'll never understand ... I've already made my opinions on the use of the Gacha category known elsewhere - among other category changes.

And? This isn't the first time a code change has caused problems nor will it be the last. You'd have hated the earlier years.

Private Region prices can be found right here. For those averse to hitting links: The setup fee (for a normal, full region) is $349 without any added/applicable taxes while the monthly maintenance fee is barely any cheaper at $249 ... So yeah, if you can afford one/justify the expense of having one ..... Congrats.

Welcome to Second Life, Axel. What you just described happens on any day ending in "y" - it's not unusual whatsoever. Shrug it off, write off the sim/owner and keep on keeping on.

Ah yes, so a response by Linden Lab's servers is affected by how one sets up an E-mail address .... Unless you're managing your own mail server - meaning in house hosting - this is not a factor at all.

Simply reading the message can also flag it in the system as received, it's fickle. Some require a response, some don't.