CronoCloud Creeggan

Y'all are forgetting teh ultimate achievement: "Become FIC."

I took a look at the applications and the hard requirement to use the official viewer would prevent me from being one because....Linux. IMHO, LL should have never abandoned the official Linux viewer and upgraded their build system to do 64-bit. Yes I know, there aren't a lot of Linux users in SL, but they are mostly very skilled at dealing with tech issues and solving problems that residents have trouble with.

Eeek, don't remind me.

Really? This old chestnut? It wasn't true back in 06 and it is even less true now. Agreed. While there are some male-identified people with female avatars, the vast majority of female avatars are operated by women, including those who are female identified. I find your thoughts on this interesting, though I am saddened that you would never start a conversation with an avatar like mine. Ha ha ha, I have thought of this song quite often in SL as an ode to avatar narcissism. Oh Lindens, it is hard to be humble, when my avatar is perfect in every way I can't wait to log in to SL, because my avatar gets better lookin each day. To know me is to love me, I must be a heck of an avatar. Oh Lindens it is hard to be humble, but I'm doing the best that I can.

I sometimes say that certain retailers in SL are basically the same store because their items are so similar. One ruffled top with detached sleeves from one creator and a very similar or the exact same top from another. To put it more directly, several retailers are trying to be Blueberry....Scandalize...I'm lookin at you. And as for the fast fashion stores, many SL avatars look like the models on those fast fashion websites. The tans, the hair, the makeup, the accessories. As for how many bikini's, rompers, and flirty dresses summer dresses with ruffles I need? All of them.

Imagine the Grumpy Cat "Good" meme image here. Hallelujah, there IS a Goddess! I've been wanting them gone for seven years! Seven! As I've said many times: "Gacha is Satan, not Satin and we want Satin, not Satan. Hail Satin!" Or as I said on my un-updated in ages blog: Think about it, while you can trade your gacha items, how many turns of the wheel do you have to do to get what you want? And how much would that thing have cost you if you had just bought it in a store? When I want something, I want what I want when I want it, which is usually...NOW. I don't want to have to put 1500L$ into a machine to get something I'd only pay 350 for. I don't want to have to wait for a trade so that I "might" get what I really want. I want it now. Not later, now, and at a fair price....now. I don't want to have to go to a lag heavy region and wait for a machine, I just want to go in, and get what I want...perhaps even WHILE shopping on marketplace at the same time. Yes, I'm one of those people who have actually paid full price for items that were in Lucky Chairs...because I didn't want to have to wait.

Sadly, though I like the fantasy landscaping, the homes themselves seem a little bland to me. I don't know, I think they need "something more fantasy" to make them more Rivendellish. They're not bad by any means, just need some oomph. Maybe it's the interiors.

The Slide show is fun and informative and I watched the whole thing, well worth the time spent.

Did a trip from Melville Deep in Bellisseria to Rathais myself in my Bandit 170 myself. It's going through the Stilt regions that slows you down, you have to slow down there for the narrower channels and turns. Once you're into the BIG "Magellan Passage" waterway in the Chalet regions, you can speed up.

I am finding this post VERY interesting and relevant considering the 2nd Anniversary of Bellisseria and the fact that Gingir is VERY active in the Bellisserian community. Bellisseria very much fulfilled a need of certain segments of the SL userbase and that is a good thing.

About the closest you can get to Satori from Bellisseria by boating is the water regions around Rathais at the southwest tip. And you're pretty much stuck there with all the orbs and lack of navigable passages around the rest of Satori. So no reaching the Blake Sea by water from Bellisseria....yet. Unless they add extra water regions around Satori. Navigating through the Stilt areas up to the Chalet ones would be easier if the map worked properly. If they want to Residents to be able to reach the inland waters of Sansara (and Heterocera) they'd need to add water regions up from the Bellisseria-Sansara connection. Up west/northwest up to Abbots or Keltham. And on the southeast/east side up to around Blooberry Tam.

Don't forget Miriel Enfield's jewelry and eyes. I miss Donna Flora's "Milan" fashion sensibilities, she passed away from Cancer IIRC. S!mone's and Nicky Ree's gowns. Luminosity's casuals. I don't delete, deletion is heresy, so I still have all my old Ivalde, Icing and Ingenue items...as well as everything else. Inventory should always increase, never decrease, such is the way of things in SL.

That was Late July/Early August of 2006.

My Wish? To never hear SL referred to as a "game" ever again. Second Life is not a game. It is a multi-user virtual environment. It doesn't have points or scores. It doesn't have winners or losers. (waits for it)

I login at least a few days every week. I log into SL more often than I read and post in these forums. My photostudio is at ground level, and when I take pics there it is usually before or after socializing and doing things. As for VVO/SLU, I think most of the posters there do login, it's a minority that doesn't.

Thanks for the heads up, after messing around in one I agree that it's a great vehicle for the Camper regions.

159000, which is a low. Just haven't been shopping enough. For it is written, Thy Inventory Shall Always Increase, Never Decrease, Such is the Way of the Fashionista. Deletion is Heresy and Forbidden. 😉

Wandered around a bit, didn't see any Truck-boat-truck's, y'all disappoint me.

They might want to raise some of the bridges across some of the waterways a bit if they can, it restricts some water travel in the new areas. One example is in SSPE260, http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/SSPE260/220/191/21 Gyazo'd a pic: https://gyazo.com/dfca0710bb1068cfe2ec0a5a6fee4fc3

Ah, Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal! 😉 https://www.youtube.com/watch?reload=9&v=znxFrgql5dc When I first heard of it I spelled it Bellissaria, notice the "a", like the island continent south-east of Alphatia on the D&D world of Mystara. All I have to do now is remember that SL Bellisseria has an "e".

Yes, I think so. Easy! I was an uniformed clueless newbie consumer with the shopping monkey on my back. So I had the hardest time finding things that fit my taste, which was more classic than most, and then I had to buy MORE stuff when I found the actual good stuff instead of the less-good stuff I had found first. Shapes and skins were my biggest expenditures early on. 1000L$ or more for a single skin in a single shade, in a single brow color with a single makeup. Shoes what, 300L$ for a single pair in a single color at least from a top tier creator like Fally? Maybe 400L$ for a single dress in a single color from Dazzle? Heck, 1300 or so might get you an entire fatpack of a dozen colors now. 250 to 300L$ for a single hair pack of maybe 2 colors. Even eyes could cost a bit, but then I found Miriel Enfield and her reasonably priced eyes. And then there were things like jewelry, an AO (I think I only picked up a couple of those...I found Luth Brodie), poses for any posestand. It added up fast. I'm actually not that big of a spender these days by fashionista standards, averaging maybe 6000 -9000L$ a month. Thank goodness I don't do subscription MMO's anymore. I don't even WANT to know how much I spent that first 6 months, probably more than I spend an entire year these days. Especially since I don't blog anymore and therefore don't buy some new skin brand I've heard about just to review it. Though frankly we could use more independent review voices in SL fashion. Skin fatpacks... 3 to 4 thousand a pop, 3 to 4 skins each of one shade and one brow color but with 4 different makeups. if you were lucky a single skin from a designer trying to be affordable was maybe 900? A fatpack of all the shades? Empty your wallet. Course then Eloh released her skin templates and half the grid started releasing their own skins, which caused downward pressure on skin prices. Some fancy shmancy gown? 1000L$ or more. LE stuff? More money. Some shoe designers used the prims+invizprim to sculpts+alpha transition to raise prices and also the transition to shoes with built in feet. Thankfully I didn't do those much, hoping SOMEONE would do feet that you just added shoes on to. And most of us oldbies know about the prices of Stiletto Moody shoes, which I didn't buy because I didn't much like the styles let alone the wince-inducing prices. In some ways mesh era items are more reasonably priced, especially if you catch them discounted. Oh yeah, it reminds me of Truth Panny or one of those Argrace hairs.

A friend does the pageant scene, suggested I join up as well, but....the pageant girls take it VERRRRRY seriously. Also the time commitment is whack! You can be cut from the show for missing a scheduled event/rehearsal/whatever even if it conflicts with RL work. Ha ha ha, everyone and their KittyCat is a fashion blogger these days. Fashion shows are still rare because designers figured out they were annoying to do, attend (lag), and schedule and they weren't effective as other marketing in SL. How many cute little cocktail dresses do I need? All of them. Though yes, it is a bit homogeneous, in part due to templates. Like I said, how many do I need? All of them. I wear them a lot for socializing, so I need a lot of them. Mine are usually a touch longer than most, preferring lower thigh to knee length. I don't have in-world income so I have limits on the number of cute cocktail dresses I can buy. CC sadface. I had to figure it out myself. It took me a few days before I found the 2006 era fashion blogs like Second Style and Linden Lifestyles, that helped. I spent slightly over 170 US$ in my first couple of weeks in SL getting my avatar up to the appearance standards of 2006 fashionistas.

While I'm an oldbie (13 years on July 19th of this year), I'm not one of the OLDBIE oldbies. I was one of the post May 2006 people who came in after LL created free accounts. I had heard about SL before then, but not knowing how well SL would run on the PC (not very well), and being involved in MMO's I didn't want to pay for another subscription. I joined when a tech vodcast I followed....vodcasts being what we now would call youtube channels, announced they were doing a meetup in the "next big thing" in SL and that accounts were now free. zOMG Stipends! That was an actual SL t-shirt made during the stipends controversy of 2006, when it went from the Blessed 500L$ of the Oldbie Elite, to 400L$ and then the 300L$ of the newbie masses. 😉 This was LONG before I actually went premium. And if I remember correctly didn't ratings affect Dwell as well? Dwell was a thing where LL would slightly subsidize land owners with L$ depending on how many visitors they had, it was meant to reward land owners who had content that attracted users. And of course it was gamed, it was one reason why camping chairs existed, IIRC. IIRC I got my first L$ from either a camping chair or a money tree before I came to the conclusion that it was a waste of time I'd be better off hitting the buy L$ button..which I have done many many times. Also camping chairs and money trees. A camping chair is set up by a land owner, it gave you L$ depending on how long you sat on it, or danced on it or whatever. Miniscule amounts but if you used one for hours every day it added up. Money trees were trees set up by landowners, often designers. If you clicked on it, it would give you a random amount of L$, depending on how much it had in it. Nice people would donate into them to help out newbies with a little L$. (they were often restricted to newbies) There were only 15 group slots...for everyone. FIFTEEN! Skirt shapes were a thing. Because the design of the system skirt was bonkers, it made you hippy. I mean EXTREMELY hippy. So everyone who wore system skirts had a shape specifically for wearing with system skirts. With prim skirts you usually wore your regular shape. Also glitch pants were a thing, they matched the color/texture of your skirt because of how skirts worked so it looked more normal. And only the jacket layer reached the pants layer, if you wore the shirt with pants you'd have a bare midriff, which is why some designers used the jacket layer to create a belt layer. Makeup was baked into skins, so if a skin maker wanted to have a dozen different lipsticks on say their "Grazia" skin, they had to release a dozen skins. And don't get me started on eyebrows. Inviziprims, because of how...."limited" the default foot was (and still is), shoe designers used inviziprims to hide parts of it in their shoes, these were eventually replaced with sculpty shoes with alpha's and so forth. The "bug" that allowed inviziprims to work was fixed, which is why the feet of avatars wearing old shoes look funny. Fashion shows were a thing...like the ones they have at RL fashion week. Runways, and SL fashion press. REALLY! And there were model agencies that actually had work! There was no such thing as "official bloggers", except maybe for a couple of designers relationship with Willow Zander, bloggers were somewhat more independent of creators back then. Who's Willow? She's the one Willow Packs were named for. What's a Willow Pack? What we called "fatpacks" back then, they were named for Willow because she shopped a LOT, and she was basically the Strawberry Singh of her day. Limited Edition items were a thing. This is where the designer only created a certain number of an item and then only put so many boxes out to purchase. The Dazzle LE's were highly desirable because while Dazzle was a popular retailer amongst female avatars, not everyone would have the Limited Edition item. There was an SL Big Brother event where a bunch of avatars were put into what some of us called "The Habitrail", IIRC residents voted who would be kicked out. The Starax wand, it was hugely expensive for the time L$10000+, but it was a high-status item to own. It rezzed things basically, VERY cool things. Sadly, I don't own one.

They changed the name of Ondine to "Bellisseria Fairgrounds"

That's not the point you were trying to make? Then why did you say this: This sentence is why people got riled up at you. It is one of the most head-explodey statements I've ever seen anyone say about the SL economy. The money the land owners and creators get comes FROM the "social aspect". As I said, SL is an almost entirely trickle-up economy. It's the "social aspect" that pays the bills filtered through land barons and creators. Now maybe you're a loner who lives in a sandbox, but you have to realize that in modern SL, the "social aspect" is what is paying the bills for LL either directly or indirectly. Heck, even Land Baron Desmond Shang of Caledon has said he's basically a middle-man. And getting back to alts, people sometimes create alts just for becoming involved in OTHER parts of the social aspect that they aren't normally involved in. Don't denigrate the importance of the "social aspect".