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I'd try llGetAgentSize So, if (agentSize.z != 1.9), llGetObjectDetails should work (though I'm a bit surprised if(llGetObjectDetails([some_parameters]) !=[ ]) doesn't work too).

I can't speak from experience of the place but that certainly doesn't coincide with what I've heard about SL's Teen Grid.

Isn't a weed simply something that's growing where you don't want to be?

I find Sublime Text invaluable, primarily because of its formatting and shortcuts and code completion it offers. I am, though, having a problem with Sublime Text 4 and Makopo's plug-in. I want to use K&R style for the formatting and my default Sublime Text colour scheme. However, Preferences>Package Settings>LSL/OSLSL always reverts to ""User Viewer Theme" every time I re-open Sublime Text and, although K&R Style remains checked, it doesn't seem to have any effect. Neither does unchecking it. Anyone got any suggestions as to what's over-riding it? I've poked round and changed things were I can, but I'm getting nowhere.

To my mind, the Senra avatar will remove a large barrier to new user retention, no matter what viewer they're using. I shudder to think how many people must be put off when, on asking, "how do I customise my avatar to get it to look something like all these good-looking and well-dressed people I see around me?" are told "First you have to buy US$25 or $30 worth of L$ and use them to buy a mesh avatar and head for the top brands, or search around for freebie or introductory ones, but you can't really use the one Linden Lab provide".

To my mind there's bound to be a large change in the market because suddenly anyone who wants to try their hand at making clothes or accessories will be able to get hold of a dev kit to make stuff they can sell to anyone. A great deal of rubbish will, of course, be produced, but so, too, will some good stuff, and it seems inevitable that, regardless of what established creators do, we'll see talented new creators making clothes and accessories for the new bodies because an artificial constraint on their entering the market has been removed. Time will tell, though.

It seems to me that the market for mesh clothes is about to change quite dramatically, since your potential customers stop being "everyone who has bought a body made by one or more particular creators who'll give me a dev kit" to "everyone in SL, and particularly new residents who've decided they might want to stay a bit and buy some clothes in addition to those in their inventory when they start."

Yes, but that's my point -- if time is the constraint, why waste it rigging clothes for a load of different bodies, or making skins, when you rig them for the one body that you know everyone possesses, regardless of whether they also own any of the resident-made ones? I'd have thought the obvious course of action in those circumstances would be to stop supporting the bodies for which your sales were worst, rather than to refuse to cater for the largest possible market.

So why would they not use their limited time to create for the body they know they can potentially sell to everyone rather than one they know they can sell only to some people?

Since I don't make clothes, I'm probably missing something obvious, but I'm struggling to understand why anyone, when offered the opportunity to expand their market to everyone in SL by making outfits for bodies that everyone will now have in their inventories, rather than for the much smaller market of everyone who has bought a particular body, wouldn't jump at the chance.

Here's the bit in yesterday's Meet The Moles where he was talking about the new avatars

I think Patch said they hope to release it in the second half of "next month" (which I assume means July, since he was speaking on June 30). One obvious difference between this year's preview and last year's is that last year there was no female body to show us. Patch also said that they'd been producing a whole wardrobe of different clothes, hairs, etc to go with the avatars, which we haven't seen yet.

/me registers a scripted agent that runs around the region asking people to check all the squares containing traffic lights in the picture it's showing them.

However, despite being told that by several people (including me) in earlier threads in these forums, people were still complaining that LL weren't giving them the same ability to prohibit registered scripted agents that estate owners have. Regardless of what practical benefits this brings parcel owners (or estate owners), it gives people the sense of control for which they were asking, which was the point of my quoting Khrushchev's supposed remark to Nixon about the solution to complaints about imaginary lakes. (Come to think of it, I've seen something attributed to Aliester Crowley, which I rather prefer, about how the magician persuades someone afflicted by imaginary snakes that he has an imaginary mongoose to deal with them).

It was a feature introduced by Emerald (remember them?) which the Phoenix Viewer (V1 predecessor of Firestorm) inherited. Linden Lab eventually banned it because of all the drama it caused.

Go to https://jira.secondlife.com/secure/Dashboard.jspa?null and sign in. Click on the Create button at the top right of the list of options at the top, and fill in the Create Issue form that appears. Click the form's "Create" button (bottom right of the form).

Have you written this up as a BUG jira?

People have, rightly or wrongly, expressed dissatisfaction with not being able to detect and ban scripted agents from their land if they are allowed at the estate level. Now LL given them a tool that gives them the ability to do just that. To my mind, people's fears about bots were overstated, and the only real difference between scripted agents and any other type of unwanted visitor (and it can be a significant difference, I agree) is that bots, once you're on their itinerary, turn up far more frequently and regularly than do regular wanderers, and I've always found the regular parcel tools perfectly adequate to remove them. Meanwhile if a bot is collecting data, it can do that from anywhere on the region, or even from your parcel before your scanner has a chance to detect and remove it, unless the scanner is on ridiculously fast timer, in which case its impact on region resources is likely to become an issue. However, that's beside the point. People had a problem -- unwanted scripted agents visiting their land -- and now they have a solution that makes them feel more in control. As Nikita Khrushchev is said to have told Richard Nixon, "If the people believe there’s an imaginary river out there, you don’t tell them there’s no river there. You build an imaginary bridge over the imaginary river.”

The bot would be very unfortunate, unless the script is running on a ridiculously fast timer, if it were to be detected and ejected by a scanner before it had completed its work, legitimate or illegitimate. Meanwhile, the parcel owner is happy, if this is the sort of thing that makes them happy, they've got an anti-bot script running on the parcel.

Just noticed this: You can now detect if an agent is an identified scripted agent ("bot") using llGetAgentInfo. Further details at

Yes, but have you obtained licences to stream them, or to use extracts in gestures, from whoever owns the rights to the songs?

Apparently <![CDATA[ … ]]> is used in XML to escape <, > and &. It should not, however, be used in HTML, which regards it as a comment https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/CDATASection.

Out of interest, I checked the UK Government website the import duty and tax I'd have to pay for importing to the UK a 2023 Chevy Bolt EV, valued in US$27,495 (the value given in the rules): £7,163.72 (about $9,100 USD). And that's before paying the shipping charges (at least another US$1000, according Schumacher Cargo Logistics. So that's somewhere north of $10,000 (£7,800) I'd have to find to import it. That's considerably less than a new car would cost me, of course, assuming I was in the market for one, which I'm not, but then I'd have to worry about finding spares for the vehicle and a garage capable of maintaining it for me. https://prnt.sc/eT_EPNANh5_K

Are you sure about that? Firestorm call what's in their viewer RLVa, which is what Kitty Barnet makes, and for which Catznip is the reference viewer.

I was responding to AlphaStud's point that My point is that, while I have a reasonable understanding of both viewers, I certainly wouldn't try to answer questions about the UI of one viewer without being able to check my responses using the viewer in question. So if I were acting as a mentor on Firestorm Island I would make a point of logging in on Firestorm, because that's the viewer I would expect to be asked about, and , for the same reason, if I were acting as a mentor on LL's Welcome Hub, where new users will rez and where all the videos and other materials use the Official Viewer, I would log in using the Official Viewer. In either case, if someone asks me a question about the other viewer I can always log in an alt on that viewer so I can check.