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There are allot more women than there are men who post on this forum. Have fun with that. :matte-motes-big-grin:

Storm Clarence wrote: He has not posted to this forum for some time..... I bet that was written with a tongue in cheek ::matte-motes-big-grin: There is no denying the fact that people on the feeds, people on SLF and the blog readers know who Pep is, But does that constitute celebrity? That is such a small bubble and these places are only frequented by a few hundred people at any given time. Generally allot of the people who use or read the feeds are the same people that read SLF and the more popular blogs, just the same few hundred people. Mainly hardcore or longerm Sl'ers In a virtual world frequented by tens of thousands of users ever day I think being a celebrity requires making a bigger impact, one that transcends the hardcore userbase and permeates into the consciousness of the average user, reaching those people who have not immersed themselves in the SL community as most of us have here.. So I am not disagreeing with the notion that Pep is a celebrity simply because I think he is annoying. It's because I don't think he meets the requirements for being labeled a "celebrity". I think that privilege is reserved for only a few SL users that have achieved something remarkable, those who have made an impact across the whole virtual world and into the real world. That is a very short list. If we label Pep a celebrity based on the achievements you mentioned then we need to add hundreds if not thousands more to that list because many have achieved the same level of recognition as Pep has in the last decade through a variety of methods including the social media avenue that Pep has gone down.

Didn't we do this thread last week or am I having dejavu? I am pretty sure I am meant to start arguing with Storm about how unfamous Dippy Daniels is at about page 7 so I'll pop back then. :matte-motes-asleep-2:

Does anyone technically minded think LL will ever introduce reflective surfaces into SL? What are the technical limitations to them introducing this? I have been seeing reflective surfaces in video games for over a decade now. I want them here too. I know all the tricks for creating artificial reflections in SL, but they are all sub par compared to the real (simulated) thing imo.

Maryanne Solo wrote: I got Diablo 3 as a present. My sister played the first one. Too much drama for too little return as pay to win doesnt interest me. Diablo 3 failed to deliver on almost every level so you are not missing anything,

I've played WOW on and off for nearly as long as I have been in SL and I have to say there has been no consistency in the support delivered by either Bliz or LL. Sometimes it is awesome, sometimes it sucks. Depends how busy they are and how competent your support agent is at any given time and that is applicable to both companies. IMO the best support I have consistently received from a MMO type company is from CCP who run EVE Online. 8 Years playing EVE and I don't have a single bad thing to say about their support process.

Pamela Galli wrote: Update: I had an alt buy the "house". It turned out to be some HUD: Jesus wept, we can't even attract a good quality of thief in SL now. In the old days at least they made a token effort to rip a build and import it in before selling it. Now they are just right clicking and stealing the sales image from the website and selling any old crap as the end product. This is why merchants need to retain inworld stores, so customers can rez and touch and see the stuff they are buying :smileywink: Especially if this practice becomes an epidemic. It will destroy confidence in the MP.

Axl Asp wrote: NOT a scam. Not yet, however there are lessons to be learned from SL's history. Ginko Financial had built a reputation and trust over a three and half year period with it's customer base. They rewarded that trust by suddenly declaring insolvency in 2007 and disappeared overnight, taking with them 200 million L$ of residents money. Anyone playing the long scam needs to gain their victims trust over a sustained period of time in order to accumulate the maximum amount of money possible before they pull the trigger. I am not saying PODEX is a scam. I am saying that it's happened once on a large and it can happen again.

Gambling is still banned under the TOS so go ahead and report them if you want to, if they are in violation.. Here is a link to the Gambling Policy It is a violation of this policy to wager in games in the Second Life® environment operated on Linden Lab servers if such games: Rely on chance or random number generation to determine a winner,OR Rely on the outcome of real-life organized sporting events, AND provide a payout in Linden Dollars (L$)OR Any real-world currency or thing of value. This includes (but is not limited to), for example, Casino Games such as: Baccarat Blackjack Craps Faro Keno Pachinko Pai Gow Poker Roulette Sic Bo Slot machines This policy also includes sports books or sports betting, including the placing of bets on actual sporting events against a book-maker or through a betting exchange. Linden Lab will actively enforce this policy. If we discover gambling activities that violate the policy, we will remove all related objects from the inworld environment, may suspend or terminate the accounts of residents involved without refund or payment, and may report any relevant details, including user information, to authorities and financial institutions.

Yay Bournemouth Uni is just down the road from me, well just down the M27 anyway. I remember when it was just a polytechnic, look at it now, a big, posh fee charging uni. Bless it's little cotton socks. ETA - Done btw

Dilbert Dilweg wrote: /me wonders if LL keeps the commissions obtained thru fraudulent sales This is the key issue I think. Everytime LL takes their cut of the "swag" from nefarious products sold on the MP they possibly become complicit to the crime.

Amethyst Jetaime wrote: It is legal because when you joined SL you agreed to the TOS when you created your account. Presumably you read it before you agreed. If you didn't that doesn't negate the fact that you agreed with it and it is now legally binding on you. Here are the applicable provisions from the TOS: How far do you think that TOS will protect LL in an instance where a consumer buys something from the marketplace using Paypal? If LL takes a percentage of that paypal payment and the product is not delivered, doesn't that make them partially accountable for the failed delivery in the eyes of Paypal? We might have chosen to follow the TOS and have accepted LL's complete lack of accountability when it comes to user to user transactions. but would that have any relevance when a product is purchased via paypal? Shouldn't LL be held accountable in that instance? This is just thinking out loud rather than questions aimed at you Amethyst. But if you or anyone else have any answers then go for it.

Kirinn Vollmar wrote: How exactly is this legal? They provide sellers with the marketplace, and yet they can scam people and we're just supposed to ...suck it up and go 'oh well' ? I'm never using the marketplace again. If you purchased the item through the MP and used paypal to make payment then you may be able to use Paypal's buyer protection to get your money back.

Phil Deakins wrote: Here in the UK only the 4 BBC channels are free of advertising. They are funded by the public - we pay an annual TV license fee. All the other channels must have advertisements to fund them. Our ads come every 15 to 20 minutes. There are more than 4 national BBC channels on air in the UK. As well as BBC 1,2,3 and 4 there is also BBC News 24, BBC Parliament, CBBC and my favourite Ceebies. Even with these extra channels the License fee is still a rip off. I spent about 15 years feeling very smug with myself because I thought I had got away without paying the license fee. Then I found out my wife had been paying it in secret every year!!

Marcus Hancroft wrote: Howdy, Dart. I completely agree with everything you've said in this thread. Since it has been against the Linden Lab TOS to link to external, non-SL websites and Linden Lab is now breaking that TOS, may we all now begin linking to non-SL sites as well? How on earth are LL breaking their own TOS? They are the service provider. They do not need to abide by the TOS, they only need to enforce it upon the customers they provide a service to. Selling banner ad space is one of the smartest things LL have done in the past year. It will generate allot of revenue that will help make up the deficit in lost revenue from all the abandoned private sims last year, which is a direct result of the growing dominance of the MP over inworld commerce. As merchants, I would have thought everyone of you would be in support of this move. More revenue for LL means more security and stability for the platform which means you get to go on making money. How is that a bad thing? Don't like the ads, then get an ad blocker. If you approve of the ads then click them, everyday, and help make them work for the lab.

Prokofy Neva wrote: I'd like them to sell the ad space to resident businesses both on their website and in the welcome and infohub areas. I agree and I am surprised that LL have not extended an invitation to SL users directly to buy advertising space on the site. I notice the banner ads do not extend as far as the forums or the MP, so maybe that is a prime place to sell banner ad space specifically to SL businesses.

I imagine a world where LL actively works to protect the IP rights of the thousands of content creators that have built this cash cow for them. If LL want to us to build and create anything we can imagine then it's about time they started protecting that philosophy instead of allowing IP thieves to rape the world of all the best content. LL are indirectly responsible for all content theft. They endorsed the libsecondlife project, they made the code open source, essentially inviting malicious use of the code. Since that point LL have done the bare minimum to ensure that they meet the minimal legal requirement by running only a partially effective DMCA process. It's clearly not enough as evidenced by the massive amount of stolen content that they are currently hosting on their servers, stolen both from within SL and outside. This slogan is meaningless in a world where our creations are not actively protected.

We should all help LL get the most out of these ads by clicking them every time we come to the website. You don't have to read the ad or be influenced to buy the product. Just a click and ignore will do. It all goes towards supporting the world we love (and a bunch of other crappy products).

*Your house could be robbed and items really taken This already happens. My intellectual property has been stolen hundreds of times over the years. *You could be robbed and Ls really taken This already happens through fraudulently sold items on the MP and inworld, Stolen items sold on the MP and inworld and account hacking. All result in the loss of an innocent victims L$ *You could be murdered (Not only on combat sims, but by random acts of violent crime - no starting over, no grace period. Once you're dead, you're gone. The end unless you get a new account.) Second Life would not function. Imagine paying thousands of USD for a sim and content only to loose it all. The only way this could work is if SL had a more efficient police force than any RL city on Earth. Or if the L$ had no real transferable value. *You could contract STDs and suffer the same consequences to your avatar as you would in RL I don't have any genitals so not worries about this one. *You could become pregnant w/out it being an option Again, smooth as an action man down there. Not an issue for me. *You could die/become maimed/injured in accidents, too - like car crashes, falls, etc.(Same no 'do overs' apply here as above). I think this in an interesting idea. It would be cool to have regions where these effects were in place. We could have dedicated alts designed to survive in such environments and it could be really good fun as we all try to injure, maim and kill each other, and of course gain kudos for the most number of kills with the oldest surviving avatar. This could work in specially designed regions like the combat sims, but obviously not across the whole grid.

Hellespont Hoorenbeek wrote: Those ads are a EYESORCE ON MY PERSONAL ACCOUNT INFO!! that is all im pointing out. The amount of time you have spent complaining about the ads in this thread, you could have spent that time downloading and installing an ad blocker. Problem solved and personal crisis (and red caps) avoided.

Firstly,I think you are over-reacting a bit to the security issue. Rather than filing a ticket you could have just come to the forums (as you have now) to see if anyone else had seen the new banner ads. You would have found a couple of threads discussing the topic (as is the case with all LL related news). Secondly, since when has a company selling ad space been bad for business? I doubt this will cost LL any customers, but it will generate them revenue. This is good news for everyone that cares about the continued support and development of SL. I am sure the users of secondlife.com will moan and complain a bit, but we complain about nearly everything, so nothing will come it, and we will all continue on with our second lives. As for Phillip coming back, he never went away, he still sits on the board and can voice his opinion at any time.

Cool thanks, I love their designs, they are awesome.

The words escape me.....

TDD123 wrote: You tried Patterns yet ? :robotindifferent: Saw someone post a link to this in a group chat earlier which I was not aware of. http://lindenlab.com/releases/linden-lab-acquires-blocksworld-2

More importantly why do I even care? Disregard the question. :matte-motes-big-grin: