Harmony Deschanel

So they've done this before ....

28,160 m2 parcel with 6445 prims, that can be made into a half sim if needed. Protected on one side to the east with an unblockable view of the sunrise. Price approx L$27,500 / month. http://slurl.com/secondlife/Omurice/192/128/27

Miserlie wrote: Why do you care exactly ? :matte-motes-not-entertained: If they want to buy Prim Boobs they should be allowed to, ''Your World, Your Imagination''. Yes they can look a tad weird but its their avatar. I care exactly because a lot of designers are designing mesh clothing around this wide hipped avatar that you see these breasts on frequently. For now ... I simply don't wear mesh, because I refuse to conform to the "Copy/Paste generation's" idea of what an avatar should look like. This avatar is evolving, I only wish I could figure out what they want next so I can charge them all L$250 for it and win Second Life...

I am sure this is some account setting, or have the Lindens decided we can only see events listed in General rated sims when looking at Events on the website? Right now I am looking at Live Music Events for Dec 16th, and the only ones I can see are ones occurring in "General" sims. I have to actually log into the game to see the events in Moderate and Adult sims.

I would really like to be able to use this viewer, but it crashes constantly for me, I've submitted a JIRA On the crash with logs and everything and haven't seen an updated version of it ... Hopefully it's as good as everyone is saying, because I can't stand the communications in v3 viewers and am still using Phoenix because of it

Actually I found a JIRA on this and am still amazed something so simple hasn't been fixed in a year or more. Thanks though for the replies https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/WEB-3341?focusedCommentId=273236#comment-273236

Dakota Linden wrote: Greetings! Since the Magic Boxes were created for the Xstreet SL web site if anyone clicks on them, they will be taken to the Xstreet SL web site. To prevent this, place your Magic Box in a location outside of public access. Regards, Dakota Linden -- Linden Lab SL Marketplace Customer Support https://marketplace.secondlife.com/ http://www.secondlife.com So your answer is "We can't fix this." Could you explain why you choose not to or cannot fix it? I understand they were created to go to the Xstreet website, but it's in the scripting that this is done I would assume, since this website was originally created by residents. You, Linden Lab, bought them out, and now you're telling us you cannot or will not change the scripting for the magic boxes? Please explain why. Edit: corrected spelling error.

Really Linden Lab, how long has the marketplace been up and the magic boxes still take you to XStreet's website when you click them? I was recently testing this and was amazed it was trying to take me to that website and then when it redirected you to the marketplace it didn't even attempt to take you to the store I was looking for. Is this going to get fixed anytime soon? Marketplace has been out, what, over a year now and this is still happening? This needs to be fixed now.

my guess is 1. It's not going to be LL any more. 2. It's not going to be Adult content any more. 3. It may not even be SL any more. 4. The key decisions have already been made. Ah, Nany.... You have repeatedly conjured up the above statements but each time I ask you to support them you fail to conjure up any evidence of any sort to back them up. So, once again I ask you why do you think that this will be the case. And what, pray tell, are the "key decisions" that you are talking about? You are big on fluff and really low on substance. What have you seen in your crystal ball that makes you think this way today? Conjure us up some details. Cabbage Nany says "My guess is" ... but honestly look at the progression over the past 4 yrs. Linden Lab adds age verification. Why? We all agree to the TOS when we sign up that we're over 18, why do they need us to verify our age? Next they segregate the adult content to it's own continent for a more predictable user experience. And you have to be age verified to go there. Why? Aren't we all over 18? At the same time they are seperating the Adult content, people are speculating that teens are coming to the main grid, this is why they are doing this. "No, " Linden Lab says, "We have no plans on bringing the teens to the main grid, at this time." .... "at this time" should have been our clue. Here's a link to an article from Jan 2009 that has a link to a now dead webpage that was Philip Rosendale saying their long range plans were to merge the grids. http://raulcrimson.com/2009/01/20/the-merging-of-the-grids-teen-and-main-all-in-one/ So this was said quickly silenced by Linden Lab as not true. I remember this well, search for stuff on the forums, you'll be sure to find it. Ok so now we got age verification for an already 18 plus crowd and adult content is off in it's own corner. What's next? Well we got this "PG" and "Mature" land but this makes no sense Linden Lab claims, because everyone is over 18. Oh really? If that's the case, then why did you make us verify we're all over the age of 18 if we want to go to the adult continent? So lets call this land "General" and "Moderate" because these terms translate better in other languages. Ok Linden Lab, if you say so. Here's the Knowledge Base article on the name change http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Linden_Lab_Official:Maturity_ratings:_an_overview#Why_did_the_maturity_ratings_names_change.3F So now take this to it's next logical steps (corresponding to Nany's numbers) 2. Let's redefine what "Moderate" and "General" are, and what we allow (probably no more adult content because teens can stand next to moderate sims and see into them). 1. What do companies normally do before they sell, they clean themselves up. Look at all the lay offs and people leaving on their own, look at the previous few years of Linden Lab trying to clean up the reputation that SL is nothing more than a world for sex. 3. Well it's certainly not the same SL I joined back in 2007, I can say that much. Whether it's still called Second Life, who can know... That'll be up to the new owners, if Linden Lab actually does sell. 4. Pretty obvious Linden Lab has been planning this if you just look back through the steps they've already taken.

There are VERY FEW PG sims that do not share at least ONE border with a Mature sim, or have a mature sim less than one sim away. Adjust your draw distance, and you can see 2 sims away. Plenty of ADULT content on mature land. Just look around. I double checked just now. I was standing in a PG sim and could see everything going on in the neighboring mature sims and beyond that too. You said it Blaze, and I commented on what I see coming nearly a month ago in this thread. Moderate maturity definitions are going to change, and push anything remotely adult to Zindra. http://blogs.secondlife.com/community/community/blog/2010/11/18/bringing-teens-to-second-life-s-main-grid#comment-792891

This Nov 23, 2010 12:17 PM Shockwave Yareach says in response to Graphic Homebuilder: Every -other- game in the gaming universe has one very fundamental difference from SL -- you cannot create your own stuff within it. In Wow or Eve or wherever, you are limited to only what the game creator has already built in. Want to make that sword blue? Sorry, but Wizard didn't want it to be blue. Want to have your own home in a spaceship and decorate it? Sorry, but EVE doesn't allow for that. What SL is truly visionary in is its litterally creating a virtual world where you can do anything -- even if it's something LL hasn't thought of. If hacking and slashing is a good time for you, go to WoW. If you want to drink at a bar and ask the bartender for a drink that's not on the menu and have him invent it on the spot, go to SL. This however creates a playing environment that is pointedly unfit for children. If you permit people to create anything, then some percentage of the material will be sexual, graphic, or otherwise unfit for minors. And since there's really no way to control what people make -- either they can build anything or they cannot -- you have to assume for legal reasons that everything people create is potentially dangerous to minors. LL cannot know whether the prims I assemble are a fighting staff or a love ***is. Even if LL banned sexual everything, nothing short of LL inspecting every single created item for acceptability would prevent more X rated content from being created by builders and individuals across the grid. So attempting to "clean up" the grid to protect children is a non-starter, because apart from the ruin to LL it would bring, it would be impossible to enforce in the first place. So we have proven that any virtual world where people can create their own things will have some percentage of inappropriate materials, regardless of what LL wants, says, decrees from their ivory towers or executes people for. Thus such a place will eternally be hazardous to children -- if people can build anything, then some proportion of what gets made will be illegal for kids to see or use. Period. And the only way LL can prevent the legal problems caused by teens seeing adult materials on an adult grid is... to not let them on the adult grid. No, you cannot "clean up" the grid, not so long as everyone in it has the ability to make whatever strikes their fancy. Making the grid safe for children, apart from the financial disaster it would bring, would be impossible. So it's necessary instead, from a legal standpoint, to make the adult grid safe FROM children and the children safe FROM the adult grid. This means seperation. And I would add, in the real world, people who sell content unsuitable for minors have the ability and, almost always, the legal requirement to check the age of someone they think may be underage. Linden Lab has taken that ability away from us as Terrence Linden said. Nov 18, 2010 4:12 PM Terrence Linden says in response to Cherry Erin: Hi Cherry, privacy and safety/security is important to the teen residents as well as adults. We did not ignore what you have raised; we decided to weigh on the side of giving equal privacy rights to both our teen and adult users.

I anticipate a change in what General and Moderate sims allow coming. Since LL has not bothered to seperate the two and have G and M sims bordering each other, they're going to change what is allowed in Moderate sims. They've already changed it from PG and Mature to General and Moderate. So it's the next logical step to change what Moderate means. Much easier to change now that it's no longer called "Mature" I saw this coming when the names were changed, and now that the teens are coming... It's a slow progression that Linden Lab has been moving along. First move Adult content off to it's own continent (no we have no plans for the teens to come to the main grid LL said) .. Next, change "Mature" sims to "Moderate" (Oh its because it translates better) .... Next, we're allowing teens into the main grid now (and no we won't let you, the adults know if they are teens or not) .... Coming soon .. Moderate gets redefined.... Great job Linden Lab, you fooled the masses really well on this. I can't wait to see the new TOS we'll all be agreeing to, that allows Linden Lab to wash their hands of any responsibility and makes everyone else responsible for their interactions with unknown underage people.