[Mesh goes gridwide: Create, sell, buy & enjoy all-new things in SL]

Did you know that you can make regular prims change their shape with scripts, and not have to bother uploading whole separate meshes for each possible change you might want to make to that prim's shape?  At least we can re-size meshes - that at least makes clothing possible.  Of course, if there's some inconvenient part sticking out, we can't resize just *THAT* part of the clothes, like we can when we buy mod-able clothing.

Yea, know all that, been around a while. At best it wouldnt work and at worst it would crash or something. You do realize that alot of people make no mod clothing and hair anyway right? Hence the bain that is the resizer script.

Oh, and you're not even supposed to change mesh shapes by applying a new mesh to them - you're supposed to create all the parts, and use alpha changes to make them visible or invisible.  Real big advantage there

I will assume this is sarcasm and just say that you should obviously get something thats right for the task to begin with rather then juryrigging something.

I admitted to start with that I didn't know how many faces a mesh would have, as far as in-world counted, but - Oh, wow - 8 different textures.  So my d10, d12 or d20 is out of the question.  And I'd certainly have found that info from the SL Wiki page on meshes - it's in the link marked "Uploading Multi-face Meshes" - oh, wait, nobody ever put that link there, and the link for uploading meshes at *all* goes off-site.  And still no answer to flexi meshes - the best I can find says "no", but then again, apparently they can be "rigged" to work with the skeleton of the avatar mesh, which is fine for *clothes*, but misses the myriad other uses of flexi.

I will just say that I could make a d100 work without 100 different textures, why cant you?

What brought me to SL was being able to build things and see right THEN what I was building.  Not build something in one program, and then see it in another one.  I could do *THAT* with POVray, with much better rendering.  And I'm sorry that Philip Linden has been gone from SL so long that you don't even recognize the original slogan for SL.  One of his original ideas was that person X could have a build in-world, and others could make suggestions, and see the changes made as they happened.  That certainly won't be happening with meshes.

I don't want, or expect, the in-world editing tools to be the equal of the stand-alone programs.  Hell, the stand-alone programs aren't even the equals of each other.  Meshes remove the "Hummm...  What if I?" of SL.

You are kidding right? What do you think happens when a person makes a 3d model, they wear a blindfold or something? You do realize that prims arnt going away right, what you said is still true, people can still build stuff with regular prims. Nothing is being taken away here, anyone can still come and make stuff out of prims.

SL is gaining something very important and all you can do is say this somehow stops basic creativeness? I have a feeling I could say a glass is half full and you would say half empty. Well no matter, you dont have to use mesh if you dont want, so have fun with that.

Ya know what, I am going to note your name down and as part of learning to get a mesh into SL, I am going to send you a full perms d20 mesh with texture and all, just for the heck of it. hahaha It wont be tommorow, but I garuntee you will receive something named d20.(not sure if I should wait for firestorm or get the LL viewer yet)

[Mesh goes gridwide: Create, sell, buy & enjoy all-new things in SL]

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 So what does happen when you apply a cut path, or hollow?  How about twist, dimple, etc?

Whee - you can resize, and rotate.  Texturing is iffy at best, as they only have one side, I'll bet, like sculpties.  The only way to change their shape is to have a script apply a *NEW* mesh to it.

Can you make flexi meshes?

Oh, well - enjoy your mesh-flavored Kool-Aid.  I'll stick with what attracted me to SL - "It all starts with a box."

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Well, talk about harsh words. There is plenty of info you can read on this if you arnt lazy and simply look it up.

First, why would you want to apply a pathcut or hollow or any of that stuff? When someone makes a mesh, they can take into account what they want the mesh to look liike. In this way its just like a sculpty. Whether you actually can apply any of that I do not know and dont really care to; when I make something I am going to account for how its supposed to look anyway when I make it, then I dont have to edit it much in world.

Second, meshes allow up to 8 different textures on them, so I know you are speaking about something which you have no knowledge of when you say "iffy" and betting its like sculpties. Go learn about that which you are speaking of before proclaiming criticisms.

Third, stuff like mesh is used all over the place(technically, your AV's body is a mesh). This is simply LLs adaptation of it so we can use it in SL. It may have all started with a box back in the past, but it hardly has to nowadays. I dont know exactly what kind of thing for boxes you have, but what brought me to SL wasnt a box fetish, it was the ability to build things and adding mesh greatly expands this. They have tacked on enough prim count penalties to mesh so that you will still see regular ole prims and sculpties around, but any properly made meshes will still be far superior in appearance to anything made from prims or even sculpties.

[Improving our Lines of Communication with the Community]

Democracy is always removed and authoritarian is always installed because there is always a class of elites upon whom the government can depend to applaud their removal of democracy.

Actually thats completely false.

The only true democracy in history fell because of a war with Sparta during which a massive plague struck.

I take it you probably meant something about republics though.

[Improving our Lines of Communication with the Community]

I think that every Linden should be required to log 30-60 minutes in the SL forums here, each week or two. I would almost go as far as to suggest they be required to make at least one post each week as well. Thats like what, 6-11 minutes out of each of the 5 days a week that you work? Some people take longer bathroom breaks then that.

As of right now, it seems like out of the total number of Lindens, only one or two actually take an interest in reading the forums. There are like what, 150 Lindens(a guess off the top of my head). If each of you were to become a presence in the forums, not only would we actually feel heard, we would also likely not have as many inflamatory posts there. With 150 of you, we could count on there always being a couple Lindens on the forum.(unless everyone decided to go on at once, hah)

[Bringing Teens to Second Life’s Main Grid]

You must be joking right? Are you sure you have thought of why what you just said sounds...well I dont want this post ARed.

So you are telling me that unless they demonstrate they are taking reasonable procautions, you will go on a cruisade against them? Are you also telling me that when underage people go on the internet, SL is the ONLY place they can access adult material from? Are you also telling me that you know whats best for everyone and are willing to impose your opinion on everyone else? Are you also telling me that somehow you will order these filtering companies to comply with what you think, with a program that is NOT even an internet web browser and you do in fact have to download in order to use?(which incidently is about to change somewhat) Are you also telling me that you are a nazi or something of some sort? because imposing your will on other people is is very much like that.

First, you do realize that teens can currently lie about their age and access SL right? and that the current precautions that are going to be taken do not change the fact that teens cannot actually do any adult stuff without lieing about their age? I will simply take your point about under 18 being underage in regards to US law and not wanting lawsuits. I am sure you have heard by now that in many places 16 is considered old enough; in my state, the age of consent is actually 16; so the question is, how do you treat this so called age of consent?

Second, do you not also realize that many teens do not even use SL to get adult stuff and indeed just go around the internet looking for it; filtering is far from effective here, as it is a fact that many younger people know alot more about computers then older ones do. In fact, it is good enough that many adult websites simply put a disclaimer saying you are over 18 which you have to click in order to access them, yet somehow, they havent been sued yet. LL is actually going further then this by blocking people.

Third, as the main SL website does not contain any adult content and any part that does is actually labeled as such and is really the market place, not the main site, it is very doubtful that filtering companies would consider it an adult website. How are these companies going to filter something like SL which is an outside program? At most, they could possibly filter the web version of SL, but then you can just use a viewer to get around it.(yes, I do realize that there are many ways to block access to different things, but typically filters work through web browsers by blocking actual websites or IP addresses, although blocking IP address is far from effective usually)

Fourth, you make yourself sound...I will just say I disagree so I dont get ARed. SL is already widely known as a place with perverted stuff in it despite what else there may be. It doesnt matter what "offical" label SL may have, as it is mostly adults that make use of it and therefore, to most of them, it would not make the slightest bit of difference. Obviously, by business, you mean more then just the lone user.(at least I hope) Many of the actual big businesses have already pulled out of SL and there are not many left. Aside from them, there is only educational institutions which use it for research(besides a couple government agencies). Whether an adult rating would hinder any participation here is something that can not be predicted and it will likely depend on price raises rather then any label.

Well I enjoyed showing you how absurd your point sounds to me and wrote alot more then I really wanted to. They are taking precautions and obviously this doesnt seem to be enough for you. There is no way to garuntee anything about anyone and trying to do so is futile. It is still up to people to make their own judgements and it is still up to the parents to monitor what their child does. It will be interesting to see if something does happen however as I would like to know what happens with laws between different countires here or if someone could site child neglect and possible accesory to what happened on the parents for not monitoring what their children are doing at home. Ok, I think I will stop writing now as I have wasted too much time here.

[Viewer 2.2 Available Today!]

Builders can more easily align textures across linked prims using planar mapping: This feature allows builders to align textures across faces so that several prims can look like a single prim. Simply select the faces of a set of linked prims, then open the Textures tab of the Build tool, make sure your Mapping setting is set to “Planar”, then click the checkbox labeled “Align planar faces.”

This right here. I dont use viewer 2 yet, but this feature makes me really think about it.

[Welcoming Teen Grid Organizations to the Main Grid]

All you people worrying over this should, in polite terms, (this is where I mention shutting holes made of pie) Underage people have been on the grid for years now, why havent you been yelling very loudly about this? Where are the repeated forum threads loudly lamenting this fact? Or mabe even in world protests? Or perhaps you have been sending repeated emails and written letters to LL? There is no way to stop this except for parents to take responsibility for their kids and watch what they do on the internet. As for numbers of teens(16-17) that will be coming to the main grid, what is it? like under 1000 or something? Im sure all 300 of them will overcrowd all the sims causing you to cease all adult activities for fear of being arrested. I have an idea, if you are so inclined to think you will be arrested because of some underaged person's overzealous parents, stay in Zindra, or leave; on a better thought, why havent you left yet given that the underaged have been sneaking onto the grid for a while now? The chances of meeting an underage person now is the same as it will be after the merge.

Linden Labs is taking steps to prevent underage people from doing things they shouldnt be and this latest step is a pretty good idea. Now, I dont know the details of course but perhaps they could even take it a step further and put a little variable on an account that says that an account can rez only the sims on a certain list, in other words, if the sim isnt on the list, you cant see it. This would be the final solution to this worry over camming.