Dogboat Taurog

Mayalily wrote: ((rofl)). I'd pick Italy or France when the euro starts to tank simply because of the art. And of course it's about Britian. This is a global financial crisis. England has had a negative credit rating since 2009. Did England implode or something? As far as I know, England is still on the map, but not much good outlook for growth in the U.K. as compared to the USA. This is a needless and pointless thread as it's not even August 2nd yet and seemed a rouse to get me to post what is happening in the Eurozone. Perhaps someone in this thread is short the euro already, who knows? But front page Google this morning is already posting stories that they are close to reaching an agreement. Not to mention, the stories keep updating by the minute. Someone needs to focus on the problems of their country and what they can do about their countries problems. Notice the words "financial crisis": This is a global problem. How many threads from the business section do we really need about things that have not happened yet as there are articles rapidly changing every ten minutes or so on Google about this. Who needs it, bleh. Not to mention the USA is going into an interest rate cycle soon, and see below about how it will effect the U.K. Not good. From the Newsweek Article, 2009: More problematic are the U.S. and the U.K., where relatively low debt loads are rapidly rising thanks to the financial crisis. U.S. debt now stands at 81 percent of GDP; Britain's is 61 percent. But the U.K.'s debt has been increasing faster than that of any other big nation, rich or poor—between 2006 and 2010, Britain's gross debt will have grown by nearly 59 percent. "The U.K.'s fiscal position wasn't great even before the crisis," says Holger Schmieding, head of European economics for Bank of America Merrill Lynch. "It's going to have big trouble adjusting to and servicing the new debt levels, especially as interest rates begin to rise." Already, Standard & Poor's downgraded its outlook for British sovereign debt from "stable" to "negative." The U.S. is at risk, too, but demographics will help. "The best way to lower debt is to grow," says AXA chief economist Eric Chaney, and a younger population will continue to result in higher growth rates in America relative to European countries. http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2009/06/19/forgive-us-our-debts.html the USA's problems are extremely worrying. you are seriously on the brink of collapse. that article was 2 years ago btw, a lot has happened in that time. your dollar is only worth what people will pay for it, if the USA default it will plummet. you have 3 options, 2 are in the BBC article i posted, the other is quantative easing. none are a cure. you will have to tighten your belts im afraid, its not gonna be pretty.

Blot Brickworks wrote: Yes....I've got 4:matte-motes-oh-rly: i hope you change your underpants and socks.

Void Singer wrote: but if you visit RL beachs that are in popular locations you are bound to eventually. In SL it's not as if they're sweating... and not all beaches are warm and tropical. But even past that, why should a virtual environment mirror RL is my question. The needs are not the same so why should the behavior or social mores be the same? it's not a condemnation, just curiosity about why some people expect it. for immersion i believe, sure you can do anything in a suit, just like you could in RL. but say you go to a beach, everyone else is wearing shorts etc, you tp there with a suit on and immediately you look out of place. also people will lose their immersion, so its quite rude really, a lot of beaches try to enforce a dress code exactly for this.

Ceres wrote: A dog pissing at everyone crack me up too... hahahaha... and Yes, you do hate living in there. Wonder why half of the people in Cyprus and and the islands in Spain are Brits? a lot of people retire there, its warmer. personally i think its a great country. but again, its not about Britain is it?

Jacki Silverfall wrote: It just isn't worth posting anything about Governments is it Dogboat. It just turns into a political pissing match. it appears not. i thought it was an interesting and slightly crazy bit of news. didn't really want it to become a mudslinging thread, but hey i can't control what people write. if people want to get pissy with me thats their problem. im just the messenger.

Ceres wrote: Kettle: Oh, Uncle Sam... you're dead broke! Your people are living on the streets and you owe China some serious money. Apple has more money than the goverment's bank. Pot: Oh, What about you? ... you haven't paid the 10 millions you owe to the Saudi king. Your own people hates living in there and you have more foreign workers (like yourself) trying to live on squats. China & Saudi Arabia: We want our money b*****s!! im a foreigner? haha, born and bred english, we hate living here? hahahaha :smileyvery-happy: lol you crack me up..

Mayalily wrote: quote "may not". Is this a mind reading thread? Check you own country, mate. You have so much debt, that you ARE rated negative already because of no growth prospects and have been that way for years! Did your country implode or something? No, you didn't, but you might. Does 'might' mean anything? *shrugs* And people can read Google front page if they want too. I'm not interested. hahaha its you that is in trouble, you owe britain 350 million dollars alone. its not a mudslinging contest though, no need to get upset with me. i'd worry about shopping and rent if i were you. and i'm not your "mate" ty.

Mayalily wrote: I really think you need to open your eyes about your own country as it hasn't had growth in decades nor any on the horizon either. Your debt is already rated negative. So what is the big deal? Should I yawn again or wha? And oh guess what, America's got growth prospects. The U.K., what Cadbury eggs at Easter time? NOT. You really do need to check out your own country; America is the one with the growth prospects. England, no. http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2009/06/19/forgive-us-our-debts.html its not a mud slinging contest. your country is in trouble, when the US army may not be able to pay its soldiers its pretty serious, dont you understand money?

Mayalily wrote: Perilously close to wha? I don't think you understand stock market manipulation. :matte-motes-yawn: Also, people are importing from us, not you as the dollar is lower so money goes farther. We're still in pretty good shape. This is stock market manipulation bs, and it's name is "puts". If you don't know what puts are. Look them up. i dont think you understand anything about economics. thank god you are not in charge. "The chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Adm Mike Mullen, wanted the troops to let him know what problems they faced in this war. They were more worried about other battles - the political ones far away in Washington. One after another, the soldiers asked: "If the government defaults on its debt, will we still get paid?" The first time it was raised, the admiral paused for a long moment then said: "I don't know the answer to that question." That raised worried eyebrows across the room." http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-14354088 this is serious stuff. 

Mayalily wrote: Duh again. Britain is in no sweet spot to say the least. And American's, well not smart ones anyways, are not clamoring to go to England. Nope, they are saving their money for when the Euro starts to go down, and most want to go either to Greece, Italy or France when the Euro begins to tank, n it's just a matter of time. England really has nothing to export but the royals and we really don't care. American's like their teams and their sports, especially Football, Baseball and Basketball. You send your royals over here to try to get money to pay for that ridiculously priced wedding, and we're so like *yawn*. Polo? That's your export? American's like their own beer, also, and their own chocolate, etc. Heresy's created milk chocolate. Most innovation happens right here in America. People clamor to live here. Deal with the facts of life. And no we are NOT perilously losing our debt credit rating; there have only been talks about America losing it's triple AAA credit rating; not perilously. you will lose your triple AAA rating in 2 days unless you can stop squabbling amongst your selves and find a way out. i'd say that was perilously close. as i said its not about Britain its about the USA. Britain is not on the verge of economic breakdown.

Mayalily wrote: It's the truth about England. Either you deal with it or you don't. The choice is up to you. But pretty much if I had to tell the truth, England is a laughing stock in America. It's an extremely poorly run country with almost nothing to export but Prince William and his wife to come to America and play a polo match for $400 dollars a seat. I wouldn't pay 1 dollar for that nonsense. Not even a dime. You send your princes over here to play polo matches, that's about your biggest export and your biggest tourist attraction from which most American's could care less about some "royal". That's dark ages to many of us, and the brunt of a lot of jokes. There's an old saying if you can't take it... and you should know the rest from there. And you can search google yourself for how much debt England is in. Pick one, anyone; there were a lot to chose from. Just google and check it out yourself. but its not about Britain is it, its about the USA perilously close to losing its credit rating. you don't understand what that means do you? and why you feel you need to attack the royal family is a mystery but please carry on if it makes you feel any better. ps, we get a lot of your dollars when you come to london with your cameras and elasticated jeans :smileywink:

Mayalily wrote: Duh, I know you have free health care, but it takes months to get an appointment because of it. People waiting for days, weeks, months. If a tooth needs out, it needs out, so yes it's clearly been documented that people have had to resort to pulling their own teeth. I for am so glad we won our freedom from the tyranny of Kings of Queens. What utter rubbish. The Queen is taking 82 million in a U.S. dollar figure a year for doing nothing. In comparison, our President makes 4.5 million a year. So yes, people do take America over England, anyday! Get over it! lol And I'll bid 1 dollar on those euro's from Jo because pretty soon they are only going to be nuttin' but collector's items. http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/166694/20110621/euro-collapse-end-of-euro-eurozone-greece-jean-claude-juncker-italy.htm you are taking extreme examples of news you may have read in whatever trashy rag you read and applying them to everyday life. i could cite many extreme examples about the USA too. what i posted was a fact. deal with it. is that what the thread is becoming? country bashing? ETA , Debtbombshell.com? sounds really credible :smileyvery-happy:

Mayalily wrote: I'd don't think the USA would actually release how much money it has. Let alone do we know how much Steve Jobs alone takes out of that Apple as his salary but I'd bet it's quite a ginormous bite. A lot of political things merely exist for one sole reason: to manipulate the stock market and cause panic. People make money shorting stocks (shorting means you make money also when stocks, commodities, currencies go down). That anthrax scare is one example of pure manipulation. The stock companies that had the antidote to anthrax were going up 8000%, 12000%, 15000%, etc. And, I called the FBI and I said I think it's these companies who are planting the anthrax. And guess what, it turned out I was right - that the stock companies that had the anthrax antidote were actually the ones that planted the anthrax scare in the first place. They murdered people to manipulate the stocks and make themselves rich. This is just time stalling so the elite can buy puts and make loads of moola when the market does down. It's a lot of manipulated bs, but people fall for it every single day, and it never stops, bird flu, swine flu, it's always going to be something to manipulate the stock market for the world's global government elite. This has got to be one of the worst. We are having a major global slowdown due to machines replacing the need for workers; it's not just happening in America; it's happening everywhere around the world. The euro could completely collapse. England has been far worse off than America with it's tax level to support some outdated monarchy breeding nonsense. I've heard of people in England who have to pull their own teeth with a string attached to a door. At least America is not that bad, yet. Hopefully, we won't get as bad as England. Good doctors don't even want to work in England because of all the backlog and most of their hard earned money going to taxes. ETA: The horror stories of the taxes and the horrific health care among so many other horror stories come from people I know in rl who have both lived and worked both in England and America. They said they'd chose America anyday. I think the America people will definately get through this, and rise and shine. Where the heck do you get your "facts" from? i live in Britain, you dont have any idea what you are talking about. pulling teeth with string? we have free healthcare here. :smileyvery-happy: and by the way we use pound stirling - the one that looks like this "£". and the USA owes Britain 350 million dollars. - so cough up. but then it isn't about Britain is it? i dont think you realise what a mess the USA is in.

Void Singer wrote: Qie pointed it out better than I... but any business with that much reserve capital is doing something wrong. there should either be a plan on how to use it, or it should be filtering back into either their shareholders or clients pockets as added value.... money is only useful if you put it to work. Apple play their cards close to their chest, if Apple are doing something wrong i would love to be as wrong as them . silly haters.

Mayalily wrote: Marketplace is what completely sold me on joining SL. Marketplace is amazing! It's the eBay of the virtual worlds but even way better, and I don't know if I could love Marketplace anymore than I already do. Marketplace brought me here and keeps me here. I get lots of enjoyment out of browsing and buying on Marketplace. Now, I'm not a merchant, so if you wanted just a merchant's perspective that would be for the merchant's section as I'm not a merchant and most likely never will be a merchant unless I come up with something very unique or decide I'd like to design clothes or furniture, but I really have no desire too learn 3D design right now. Maybe one day, I don't know? yep, far easier to find stuff and no lag at all! no point having a store anymore. would be nice if the store owner could discount the price of goods from inworld stores versus the marketplace, might generate small business and regenerate the empty lands, but hey you cant, its against the MP TOS...

Qie Niangao wrote: Yeah, all that cash on hand is not a sign of a healthy business. If Apple doesn't have ways to invest that profitably in its own business -- new product development, acquisitions, whatever -- it shows that they've outgrown their strategic vision and become a hedge fund with a sideline of branding consumer electronics. Apple has never been any good at acquisitions; it's not a new problem. Instead, they've lately developed the corporate hobby of patent trolling. you sound like an Apple hater, but they are an extremely successful corporation. patent trolling? they bought 6000 for 4.5 billion along with Microsoft from nortel, a business that was defunct. thats true business at work. according to insiders netflix and voice technology may be the next aquisition. almost everything apple has done has been a sucess. however Apple was just an example...

yes its bad, it makes you look cheap and boring. even a different shirt would help.

LL are not the law although they could ban you from SL. Telling the truth about anyone is not illegal unless you have signed a privacy contract. even then its not illegal per se, (as in the case of Bradley Manning) but the US govt appear to be able to do as they wish.

Void Singer wrote: I didn't dispute it, just noted the difference in obligations. that wasn't really the point of me posting this. the point was that when a country as big as the USA has less spending power than a corporation then you know something is wrong. a sort of wake up call if you will.

Jo Yardley wrote: I have about 40 euros, am I getting close? its on ebay, no reserve.:smileywink:

Kervin Karu wrote: Hey I'm making an alt currently and so I made the username my real name, not knowing it would be displayed across the grid to anyone and everyone (thanks for the warning btw sl) so I'm wondering if thats safe? I plan to use this avatar for business stuff strictly, not planning on doing anything perverted or any roleplay / relationships. Should I make a new avatar with a different username or do you think this is safe? some wierdo traces your name and hides in your wardrobe till you are asleep? go for it.

Void Singer wrote: I'd be more impressed if the US goverment had anything to learn from them... sadly, they already know how to overcharge you for crap wrapped in shiny packages coming, using , and going. call me back when Apple has to support a national defense, public works, or a system of law other than "sucks to be you, wanna buy another one?" lol it's the facts. deal with it. i'm thinking of buying california if the chinese dont beat me to it

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-14340470 how crazy is that?

Arkady Arkright wrote: Peewee Musytari wrote: The adding of the switch has to be the fastest update to a new feature ever, but its good to see that not all of the Lindens have flipped their switch "yet" lol Erm... What switch ? ninja launch of web profiles. they cant fix LLs most annoying problems, so they give us shiny usless things instead.

Smoothie Perl wrote: A post from another thread gave me the idea to open up this discussion. So, what you think about the use of Gestures in World? Do you like them? Are they annoying to you? Do you like to shouting, giggling and howling? Gestures are fun, joy, happiness or just noise for you? i don't mind as long as my screen isn't flooded with text. 2 or 3 lines are fine, over that is a bit annoying. gesture conversations can be very funny