Phil Deakins

I vote that Persephone should have the money. She was the first.

But all threads are free for all - to contribute to Make up your mind. Either it's deleted, which means that it's gone for good, or it's fixed, which means that it still exists and is working. You can't have it both ways. I know that the SL world is what we make of it, but that's stretching it a bit.

That would depend on the settings of the AO animation

Years ago, when we had Sunday breakfasts, I was sitting at a table where there were about half a dozen people sitting on the other side. Like @Persephone Emerald I'm nosey when people are around and I pointed at a girl on the other side. From there I moved my camera along the row to nosey the people. So my view/camera moved but my point at stayed where it was, which happened to be on a girl's boobs lol. The girl said that she knows what I'm looking at. I wasn't, but it didn't prevent me from being embarrassed. From her point of view I was staring at them . That's when I leaned about 'look at'. Pointing and then moving the camera is the way I look around. I usually point somewhere near where I want to look around and then move the camera but, needless to say, I've had it turned it off since then.

I do too, but there are a few people who I just can't remove. Honeybear is one. We were never what you'd call friends but somehow I can't delete her and others from my list I was never an explorer or even one who gets out and about, but I have very fond memories of gaming the GSA (Google Search Appliance) that SL used for search. I did it in various ways, such as auto-rezzing objects when the spider was due and deleting them when it had gone by, and creating mini parcels to control the businesses in the top search results. It really was fun back then. I don't want those days back though. It's just nice reminiscing about them once in a while

I thought I'd better go into the process of upgrading to P+ just to see if any actual Linden Homes were pictured or stated that could lead a person to think they can have one of those. I reached the Tilia payment page, which is where I backtracked, of course. If any Linden Homes were actually shown or described or anything like that, then I'd need to change my opinion again, but no Linden Homes of any kind were shown or stated, and there is no link pointing to anywhere that shows them. So I stay with my opinion that it's not a scam. However, I do think that the A free Linden Home of your choice statement could be worded to indicate that all styles are not necessarily available all the time.

You can definitely have a Linden Home of your choice, provided you don't choose one that isn't actually available. I think you need to need sleep on it. You seem to have boxed yourself into an original opinion and can't let go, regardless of how anyone else explains it to you. I do think you need a timeout.

What Sparkly posted is the relevant page. I do not read it as a guarantee that every style of Lindon Home will be available whenever I want one. You read it differently, and that's your choice. I think I'm right in saying that you're the only one who has posted who reads it that way.

Nope Assuming that Sparkly's post is correct, the buyer is offered a choice of Linden Home. There is no suggestion that every design will be available to choose from. I.e. Here's what's available. Choose one.

In view of Sparkly's post, I've deleted what I originally wrote in this post.

What viewer?

I never thought of that. Worra good idea, although my poster still works - it did again this year.

The advertising message isn't an alternative to the "YOU". With or without the link, the IMer isn't going to get an immediate response from the person at that time. S/he is going to get an automated message from the person they IMed. So an ad in the automated message cannot be considered as spam, except by the people who consider that anything is spam if they don't specifically request it. It's an extreme view, and I wouldn't give any consideration to it concerning a 'not available' message followed by a link or a small ad in an auto-response message.

You'll find people who consider any unsolicited contact to be spam. It doesn't have to be bulk. I'm not one of them though. In the OP's case, a response is actually wanted, so it's not spam in anyone's eyes.

No problem

Ok. You first

Some accounts are internally flagged as bots without ever being bots and without knowing anything about it. No doubt some accounts were used as bots in the past and were internally flagged at the time without being told or forcibly logged out, so they had no idea, although I can't imagine why an account would be flagged as a bot and left where it is without any action taken, either by communication or by being forcibly logged out. I have multiple examples of both of those. I don't know anything about the 'no scripted agents' option that LL provided for non-mainland, but I do know about the AGENT_AUTOMATED flag. When it's used in a script that bans scripted agents, then it's the script that does it, and nothing at the system end can determine why the avatar has been banned. So I don't see how LL could send a message to the avatar that it's been recognised as a scripted agent. There isn't an LSL function to specifically ban a scripted agent. Scripts that remove scripted agents could send a dialog message to the 'victim' that it's been banned because it has been recognised as a scripted agent, and what it can do about it. Then a non-bot user knows why, and can take it up with a support ticket. It's really up to the scripter to include such a message, but most scripts probably won't do it. I'll add a message option to my device in the changes that I'm still in the process of making. The bottom line is that the SL system can't tell that an avatar has been banned because it's a scripted agent, and can't send an appropriate message.

Yes, that's a solution if the landowner wants to write/buy a script that will tell a removed avatars that it has been recognised as a scripted agent, but the likelihood of it happening much is extremely slim, imo.

Accounts can be flagged internally without any form of discipline, and without any knowledge of it whatsoever.

I said before that this has nothing whatsoever to do with my small SL business, and it has nothing to do with any reputation that I may or may not have here. It has not enhanced my business in the slightest. If I wanted it to do that, I would put it in my little store so that those who want it would get it there and see the things I sell. But I don't do that. I drop it into the IM boxes of those who want it. There is nothing in it that even suggests that I sell anything, so it hasn't "helped your [my] business" in the slightest. The words 'tree', 'barking', 'up' and 'wrong' spring readily to mind . I wrote it just for something to occupy me a little. It's not a public service. I offered it for free to anyone who wants it, and I am still getting requests for it. Right now, I am improving it a bit, so there is a delay in sending it out, but that should be completed today. Later today, those who are waiting for it, and those who already have it (who I remember), should get the updated version. It doesn't detect bots that are neither registered as scripted agents nor flagged internally. Nothing can detect those. It merely makes use of the new AGENT_AUTOMATED flag.

I've PMed you. It doesn't differentiate between bots, so, if you want to remove them, it's remove all or remove none.

It doesn't detect bots. It detects accounts that are self-registered as scripted agents and accounts that are internally flagged as bots. Bots that are not self-registered and not internally flagged as bots are not detected. That's probably why the script you tried wasn't detecting all the bots.

I can add that at least one of my 6 or 8 accounts that are/were internally flagged as bots, was never used as bot. Not even once. I can understand why LL needs an internal bot flag, but it's difficult to understand the reason the flags are set. I can guess that a user reports an avatar as a suspected bot on land that's set to show in search, and the Linden who deals with it lazily flags it without doing any sort of checking. The circumstance where a user is banned from a parcel without any apparent reason why, can be easily checked by the user by trying to TP into anywhere in Bellisseria. Any account that is internally flagged as a bot won't be able TP there. It's an easy check that the user can do.

? I don't know what you mean. I used to sell stuff, as you well know, if that's what you mean. And I still sell stuff (security devices) as I said, if that's what you mean. But, if you mean that I sold the scripted agent detector, I didn't. I offered it free to anyone who wanted it, and I have no intention of selling it.

It doesn't mention the device because I think pretty much everyone knew about it since it was in a recent thread, and I assumed that everyone would be interested in the results. We had forum discussions on the topic very recently. It was discussed here in GD and in Incidentally, AGENT_AUTOMATED isn't flawed, as is seen later in the thread I linked to. It turned out that LL keeps their own internal flags for scripted agents, separate to the scripted agent status page, so AGENT_AUTOMATED can return positives when the scripted agent page has the account set as being operated by a human. It does make sense that they would do it. Nope. I sell a few security devices now, that's all, and I don't plug them anywhere in the forum. I don't even have a signature line to promote them. It's merely a means of me keeping a tiny bit of interest in SL, and nothing more. LL introduced the LSL means of spotting scripted agents recently. You obviously missed it. Right from the moment I started using traffic bot, I never made a secret of it in the forum (RA). They were perfectly legal. When LL nerfed them, I removed them, but I did keep demo models on some furniture in the store, as you stated, all of which were registered as scripted agents. I won't be offering it for sale. Those who wanted it, got it, and that's it. I have no need whatsoever to take advantage of anything.